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Frosty 2.0
17-03-2017, 12:11 PM
Anyone tried or know something about this kind of rearsets? Infos and insights would be appreciated. Thanks
Billet Adjustable Rear Sets Rearsets Foot Peg Pedal Ducati Monster 796 | eBay

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281872847189?ul_noapp=true

Ron1000
17-03-2017, 12:37 PM
Message pompone and about his spider ones. Very nice they are

slob
17-03-2017, 12:50 PM
Nice looking rearsets, they look very adjustable.
Beware: If you buy in the US you'll almost certainly get held to ransom for 6% duty, 20% VAT and a 'management fee' by UPS and HMRC.
Plenty of suppliers in UK/Europe.

Darren69
17-03-2017, 01:06 PM
I haven't seen Pompone on here for a while, so I don't know if he still checks mail etc. His website is

http://www.desmoperformanceparts.com/

Frosty 2.0
17-03-2017, 01:58 PM
Thanks for the insights.

Frosty 2.0
17-03-2017, 01:59 PM
Just been to the website and emailed them if they ship to Canada.

slob
17-03-2017, 03:43 PM
Duh! sorry just noticed your location, less of a problem for you over there.

Darren69
17-03-2017, 06:34 PM
Duh, me too. I think I just saw Scarborough and thought North Yorks! :)

Luddite
17-03-2017, 06:42 PM
They look very neat, Frosty. I like the vertically mounted master cylinder.

The pictures show them fitted with a hydraulic brake light switch, although one isn't mentioned in the dealer's description. Best to check with them before buying to see if one is included.

Frosty 2.0
18-03-2017, 01:19 AM
They look very neat, Frosty. I like the vertically mounted master cylinder.

The pictures show them fitted with a hydraulic brake light switch, although one isn't mentioned in the dealer's description. Best to check with them before buying to see if one is included.

Thanks for the reply, messaged them and said that a brake light switch is included. everything is a bolt on with all the existing oem hardwares.

Luddite
18-03-2017, 11:33 AM
Go for it! That seems like a really good price for what looks like a quality item. I've got a similar brake light switch on my rearsets and it works perfectly.

Are you planning to fit them yourself? If so, be aware that the rear brake is a complete PITA to bleed as the nipple is on the bottom of the caliper. I've found it helps to remove the caliper, flip it over so the nipple's on top and slide it on the top run of the disc (put some protective tape on the caliper to stop it rubbing on the swingarm). If you've got a vacuum bleeder or even a syringe to help draw the fluid through, that speeds things up.

Don't forget to let us know what they're like when you've fitted them (and post a couple of photos too of course!)

Frosty 2.0
19-03-2017, 07:07 AM
Go for it! That seems like a really good price for what looks like a quality item. I've got a similar brake light switch on my rearsets and it works perfectly.

Are you planning to fit them yourself? If so, be aware that the rear brake is a complete PITA to bleed as the nipple is on the bottom of the caliper. I've found it helps to remove the caliper, flip it over so the nipple's on top and slide it on the top run of the disc (put some protective tape on the caliper to stop it rubbing on the swingarm). If you've got a vacuum bleeder or even a syringe to help draw the fluid through, that speeds things up.

Don't forget to let us know what they're like when you've fitted them (and post a couple of photos too of course!)

I will be bringing it to the mechanic for fitment. Can't do that extensive work on my bike yet. It sure looks good in the picture, hope it also is when fitted and hoping too that it would be a durable and sturdy one. Still convincing myself for the purchase, just got me a new LV one exhaust. It says that the sale will be ending in 7 days, what do you think guys? Will the price jack up or maybe the lower the price more.

Luddite
19-03-2017, 09:44 AM
I thought these looked familiar. Those ebay pictures are lifted from the Sato Racing website https://satoracing.com/rearsets_ducatim796.htm (Japanese manufacturer) but the seller has blacked out the Sato marks from the gear shift and brake pedals.

Check with the seller; are these genuine Sato rearsets or copies? If genuine, then that's a great price as they're currently US$675 on Sato's website. They have a good reputation for quality and design and I considered them for my Evo, (but couldn't afford them!).

If, however, they are copies, (perhaps Chinese), then beware. They MIGHT be as good as the Satos but often copies will be made from inferior materials and the anodizing may fade quite quickly. If the seller is confident in the product, why the fake photo other than to deceive the buyer?

Frosty 2.0
19-03-2017, 10:16 AM
I thought these looked familiar. Those ebay pictures are lifted from the Sato Racing website https://satoracing.com/rearsets_ducatim796.htm (Japanese manufacturer) but the seller has blacked out the Sato marks from the gear shift and brake pedals.

Check with the seller; are these genuine Sato rearsets or copies? If genuine, then that's a great price as they're currently US$675 on Sato's website. They have a good reputation for quality and design and I considered them for my Evo, (but couldn't afford them!).

If, however, they are copies, (perhaps Chinese), then beware. They MIGHT be as good as the Satos but often copies will be made from inferior materials and the anodizing may fade quite quickly. If the seller is confident in the product, why the fake photo other than to deceive the buyer?

Hi it comes with a switch for tail light and no need to replace the brake line
This are exactly as sato racing japan we purchase software from them
Thanks, that is our chat recently.

Frosty 2.0
19-03-2017, 10:17 AM
and said that it is made in Florida USA

Luddite
19-03-2017, 12:06 PM
I'm a naturally cautious person so it would still concern me a bit that the picture on ebay wasn't actually of the product advertised. I suppose they might only be made to order so there isn't one available to photograph.

If these are of comparable quality to the Satos, then that's already a great price. Still, as this is an ebay seller, you could try making a cheeky bid or asking for free shipping - you might be lucky!

Anyway, let us know what you decide and what the rearsets are like, if you get them.

Frosty 2.0
19-03-2017, 12:59 PM
I'm a naturally cautious person so it would still concern me a bit that the picture on ebay wasn't actually of the product advertised. I suppose they might only be made to order so there isn't one available to photograph.

If these are of comparable quality to the Satos, then that's already a great price. Still, as this is an ebay seller, you could try making a cheeky bid or asking for free shipping - you might be lucky!

Anyway, let us know what you decide and what the rearsets are like, if you get them.

I agree, seems sketchy. but can't afford rizoma or woodcrafts as of this time.hahaha! It is a gamble and risk for the purchase. maybe giving them an offer for a lower price for it.

slob
19-03-2017, 03:30 PM
22thousand+ feedback, 100% positive...

Dingo
06-05-2017, 08:45 AM
I have them on my 2008 696, great quality and finish, they look identical to the Sarto ones,
Pain to fit but worth it, got mine from a guy in the UK for £120 (I think he looked in the box and saw all the pieces and thought "F**K that")

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/dingobmxer/9162CFE4-68FA-4A94-AF68-5BF1A511D618_zpsodlzlxo0.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/dingobmxer/media/9162CFE4-68FA-4A94-AF68-5BF1A511D618_zpsodlzlxo0.jpg.html)

Darren69
06-05-2017, 09:20 AM
I think that's a great price and they look pretty good too, even if they are copies of the Sato ones made in the US, still worth a punt I would say and although the Spider ones from Pompone are great too, I think the import tax would be quite high from the UK.

Frosty 2.0
11-05-2017, 02:32 PM
Any have had experience with this comapny and their rearsets? Thanks!http://www.ebay.ca/itm/252930258571?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Luddite
11-05-2017, 03:45 PM
I've not come across these before. There appears to be lots of adjustment and the price is not too bad. I don't know what your import duties would be like; more than buying from the US? From a design point of view though, I prefer the Sato copies from your earlier post. Did you decide not to go for those in the end?

Frosty 2.0
11-05-2017, 10:19 PM
I've not come across these before. There appears to be lots of adjustment and the price is not too bad. I don't know what your import duties would be like; more than buying from the US? From a design point of view though, I prefer the Sato copies from your earlier post. Did you decide not to go for those in the end?
Thanks for the reply Luddite, thing is, when I decided to buy the product from my first pose and clicking buy it, the page then says that the seller doesnt want any bids or offer coming from me. I contacted them and they said it is still for sale and dont know why I cant buy it.

Luddite
11-05-2017, 11:13 PM
That's strange. Perhaps after your earlier questions, they thought you were a spy from Sato!

I don't think they were made under licence in Florida; I think they were imported Chinese copies. Here are the exact same items (even down to the same photos) direct from China for only C$220 with free shipping.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/182386662912

Chinese rearsets...

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab292/vincebessant/Mobile%20Uploads/C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Tem p_Saved%20Images__32_zpsurnlbmfq.jpg (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/vincebessant/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Tem p_Saved%20Images__32_zpsurnlbmfq.jpg.html)

Florida rearsets...

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab292/vincebessant/Mobile%20Uploads/C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Tem p_Saved%20Images__33_zpspqtmglo9.jpg (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/vincebessant/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C__Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER_Tem p_Saved%20Images__33_zpspqtmglo9.jpg.html)

Tempting at that price! But note from the photo that the brake light switch wiring is bare; you'd have to add your own plug.

Let us know what you eventually go for.

Cobra88
12-05-2017, 07:49 AM
Pins just swap into original plug

Fitted 2 sets of these for other people
Sadly dont fit evo as abs hose is too long and solid :(

Great quality
Rick

Edit--- might fit now as originally listed only for 696-796-1100
That listing says ABS

Frosty 2.0
13-05-2017, 11:57 PM
Pins just swap into original plug

Fitted 2 sets of these for other people
Sadly dont fit evo as abs hose is too long and solid :(

Great quality
Rick

Edit--- might fit now as originally listed only for 696-796-1100
That listing says ABS

Also considering that on the first photo from topmax motors. Can you say something about the functions and quality of the ones you fitted?

Cobra88
14-05-2017, 11:24 AM
I Can

Anodising fades fast and some of the bolts are of dubious quality.

cnc work is great and good quality material otherwise.

ie: if I bought a set I would replace all the bolts with properly rated fasteners and get cnc parts powder coated.

I would much rather fit Gilles VCR and do nothing else personally

but the Chinese ones are not terrible if you don't mind replacing a few fasteners and fading anodising

They work fine

Regards
Rick

Luddite
14-05-2017, 12:51 PM
What Cobra says about the anodising seems to be a common complaint when talking about Chinese CNC stuff, whether it's mirrors, levers or footrests.

It looks like these footrests also come in silver, which I prefer (my rearsets are silver). If you went for those, faded anodising wouldn't be such a problem.

Cobra88
14-05-2017, 01:01 PM
Hi Luddite

I only changed fasteners as they had zero markings and where soft stainless

I prefer marked stuff on what I deem safely items like brake pedals and footrests.
The other thing I'm not 100% happy with is the rearsets pictured don't look like they have bearings in where they bolt to the swinging arm pivot.
(they may have but look like bushes unlike the ones I fitted which came from same seller but a few months ago)
they may have just made neater covers for bearings ;)

Regards
Rick

Frosty 2.0
15-05-2017, 02:44 AM
talked with the seller just now, said that I still need a hydraulic brake switch for it and according to their site, it is only for track use that I will be needing the switch and maybe brake return spring. Can i use my oem return spring and my brake switch for it?

Luddite
15-05-2017, 09:32 AM
Hi Frosty.

The quick answers are "No" and "No"!

As far as a return spring is concerned, you can get a suitable replacement, for example:

http://satoracing.com/brakereturnspring.htm

but it's not necessary for the safe functioning of the brake; it's only for feel really. I posted this earlier on another thread:

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=53508

I think it might just be a question of "feel" as a result of your rearsets. The standard footrest comes with quite a strong return spring hooked under the pedal so you feel some resistance when you press it.

When you remove the standard pegs, you lose that spring. A lot of rearsets don't come with a replacement so it's hard to gauge how much pressure you're applying. Some rearsets do have a small conical coil return spring like this one from Sato http://satoracing.com/brakereturnspring.htm that fits on or in the master cylinder and that can improve the feel.

My current rearsets don't have a spring and I had thought about fitting one but soon got used to the feeling so didn't bother. Now they feel perfectly natural.

Hope that helps.

For the brake light switch, you'll need a hydraulic version such as this one:

https://satoracing.com/brakelightsw.htm (or plenty more on ebay: http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xducati+hy draulic+brake+light+switch.TRS0&_nkw=ducati+hydraulic+brake+light+switch&_sacat=0)

It's disappointing but perhaps not surprising that the pictures used to advertise these rearsets contain items that aren't included i.e. the brake light switch.

Frosty 2.0
17-05-2017, 02:52 PM
Hi Frosty.

The quick answers are "No" and "No"!

As far as a return spring is concerned, you can get a suitable replacement, for example:

http://satoracing.com/brakereturnspring.htm

but it's not necessary for the safe functioning of the brake; it's only for feel really. I posted this earlier on another thread:

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=53508



For the brake light switch, you'll need a hydraulic version such as this one:

https://satoracing.com/brakelightsw.htm (or plenty more on ebay: http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xducati+hy draulic+brake+light+switch.TRS0&_nkw=ducati+hydraulic+brake+light+switch&_sacat=0)

It's disappointing but perhaps not surprising that the pictures used to advertise these rearsets contain items that aren't included i.e. the brake light switch.
Thanks for the insights! I really havent made up my mind which rearset to get. Having second thoughts on getting chinese rearsets. Maybe considering the geicko rearsets from italy.

Luddite
17-05-2017, 05:05 PM
Well, let us know what you eventually decide on and post up some pictures.

Have you checked out the Gecko website yet www.geckoracing.it ? It looks like you'll have to order a brake light switch separately but they only charge €4 for one, which is pretty reasonable.

Also, they say they'll give you a €10 refund if you send them a review with photos, so that would pay for the switch!

Frosty 2.0
18-05-2017, 02:26 PM
Well, let us know what you eventually decide on and post up some pictures.

Have you checked out the Gecko website yet www.geckoracing.it ? It looks like you'll have to order a brake light switch separately but they only charge €4 for one, which is pretty reasonable.

Also, they say they'll give you a €10 refund if you send them a review with photos, so that would pay for the switch!

talked with the seller last week, their shipping is halted till June. Lets see how it goes in the future.

Luddite
18-05-2017, 03:35 PM
talked with the seller last week, their shipping is halted till June. Lets see how it goes in the future.

Let's hope that they're worth the wait!

Frosty 2.0
22-05-2017, 12:17 AM
Let's hope that they're worth the wait!
I hope so too.