PDA

View Full Version : Thinking of selling my S2R 1000


Drumnagorrach
01-08-2016, 01:32 PM
As I approach retirement ,I am thinking of selling the Monster .
It's like new ,17000 miles ,full termi system and very responsive . Heated grips ,heavy battery/starter leads and new bigger Motobatt battery ,carbon tail piece and rearsets .
Not in a hurry or even sure I want to sell it but I don't ride it if it's wet ,which is most of the time , I find it a bit brutal in its throttle response and suspect I don't think fast enough to do it justice .
I would be looking for close to £4000 ,it cost me £4600 last year and is a lot better than when I got it cosmetically .
Let me know what you chaps think .
I will probably go back to a Guzzi ,I just like the big flywheel ,calms everything down nicely , Will post some pics later .

Drumnagorrach
01-08-2016, 07:41 PM
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff171/gasaxephoto/IMG_1105.jpg (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/gasaxephoto/media/IMG_1105.jpg.html)

Drumnagorrach
01-08-2016, 07:44 PM
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff171/gasaxephoto/IMG_1111.jpg (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/gasaxephoto/media/IMG_1111.jpg.html)

Drumnagorrach
01-08-2016, 07:45 PM
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff171/gasaxephoto/IMG_1109.jpg (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/gasaxephoto/media/IMG_1109.jpg.html)

Drumnagorrach
01-08-2016, 07:45 PM
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff171/gasaxephoto/IMG_1104.jpg (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/gasaxephoto/media/IMG_1104.jpg.html)

Drumnagorrach
01-08-2016, 07:46 PM
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff171/gasaxephoto/IMG_1108.jpg (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/gasaxephoto/media/IMG_1108.jpg.html)

Drumnagorrach
01-08-2016, 07:48 PM
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff171/gasaxephoto/IMG_1107.jpg (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/gasaxephoto/media/IMG_1107.jpg.html)

A bloody messy way of downloading pics ,I know.Only fekin way I could get it to work.
I have the standard back end ,mirrors and footrests ,don't have a standard exhaust . Just been M.O.T,d,belts within last 1000 miles ,oil 100 miles ago ,last month .

Mr Gazza
01-08-2016, 07:51 PM
You need to sit down with a wee dram and drink till you come to your senses..:mand:

How could you let a bike like that go???

Hide it behind some bales at the back of the barn. When you retire, pull it out, give it a good clean and live the dream again.
You can pick the nice days then and enjoy something of quality.

You'll miss it if you sell it now..:rolleyes:

Drumnagorrach
01-08-2016, 08:04 PM
You know Garry, you might be right . One of the problems is the fekin 15mph speed limit at work ,Glenfiddich is a fairly big site and I just can't get it to run that slowly ,and under control ,the slightest bump and I'm rocketing forward then I shut off and it stands on its nose . I need a flywheel to steady things down .
I lost the plot slightly last week ,one of the goody goodies at work was over observing the speed limit and I was kangeroo'ing along behind him trying to keep behind him ,after a couple of minutes ,I lost it and opened the throttle a bit and passed him ,only the termis sounded like the end of the world to the driver as I passed and the front wheel was coming up a bit ,only a bit mind !
Had to make up an excuse about sticky throttle the following day when questioned about said indiscretion .

Mr Gazza
01-08-2016, 08:20 PM
...the termis sounded like the end of the world to the driver as I passed and the front wheel was coming up a bit ,only a bit mind !

So you are obviously riding it correctly...:mand:

No need for any fekwitted 15mph limits when you have retired.

Dirty
01-08-2016, 09:17 PM
Got any bigger pics?

Drumnagorrach
02-08-2016, 05:56 AM
Do they seem a bit big?

Darren69
02-08-2016, 07:52 AM
I had a similar issue with my S4, it was very jerky and I had slammed my nuts into the tank when hitting bumps at slow speed, one too many times.

I fitted a lighter flywheel and that reduced the engine braking effect and had the DP fuel map adjusted and smoothed out from tick over to 3000rpm, it was pretty rough before. The engine spins up much faster, but it is so smooth and I've not had any more issues slamming into the tank. It goes like a rocketship!

Dave G
02-08-2016, 09:10 AM
Are You still on standard gearing?

Dirty
02-08-2016, 09:36 AM
Do they seem a bit big?

Haha, no, for once I actually mean got any bigger ones, they are a bit small. Even if you look at them on PB they are small :biggrin:

utopia
02-08-2016, 09:45 AM
Well, I was going to suggest that if you do sell it, you might consider replacing it with a 750.
Mine is quick enough on the open road but is also very manageable in the nadgery bits.
And, significantly, they can be had for under £2k and at that price they will probably never depreciate at all, so they make a good candidate for a long term keeper.
But then I saw the pics of the bike.

I agree with Gazza ... that bike is just too nice to sell.

Pedro
02-08-2016, 05:37 PM
14 tooth front cog and a remap will sort the lumpiness out, worked a treat on my 1000DS, easy to crawl in slow traffic

Drumnagorrach
02-08-2016, 07:43 PM
Haha, no, for once I actually mean got any bigger ones, they are a bit small. Even if you look at them on PB they are small :biggrin:

I had a look at uploading again to photobucket but they still ended up quite small ,no idea how to get the pics bigger.

Drumnagorrach
02-08-2016, 07:48 PM
I would love to get it remapped but there just isn't anyone I know of within 400 miles ,not a fan of low gearing .

Pedro
02-08-2016, 08:31 PM
I would love to get it remapped but there just isn't anyone I know of within 400 miles ,not a fan of low gearing .

A power commander with a download is possible. My 1000 was sooo much better with a 14, still topped 140 as well....

Flip
02-08-2016, 08:38 PM
I would love to get it remapped but there just isn't anyone I know of within 400 miles ,not a fan of low gearing .

400 miles?? That's a nice ride out- stopover somewhere and another nice ride back the next day!!

Don't think of it as low gearing- think of it as how it should be if it wasn't for all the legislation that motorcycles have to comply with before making it to market (plus if you really don't like it, it's an easy swap back). Same as the re-map- it really puts the fuelling as it should be where it has been leaned off artificially to get it through the crap. It'll be a different bike once done I am sure.

Luddite
02-08-2016, 09:34 PM
If your ECU is a Magneti Marelli IAW 5AM, then there are Rexxer downloads available for the S2R 1000 with both standard cans/slip-ons or full systems. Neil at Cornerspeed (http://cornerspeed.co.uk/tuning.php) offers a postal service where you send him your ECU and he will send it back remapped within a couple of days.

He did my 1100 Evo and it transformed the low speed running. Highly recommended.

By the way, I'm also a member of the 14 tooth front sprocket club!

Dave G
03-08-2016, 08:16 AM
I wouldn't think of it as low gearing either, it's more a case of the bike has artificially high gearing as standard with only one purpose, to pass noise emmisions tests at certain points.

The top speed of our bikes are largely academic and I very much doubt anyone could achieve these top speeds without some other form of trick.

I've now 14toothed every single Ducati I've owned, and every one of them has felt better to ride on the road as a result, even the 916 was a better bike as a result and it certainly made both the S2R and the SC better to ride, more responsive and punchier at low revs than any power commander type approach for just a few pounds.

Also easy to reverse if you dont like it.

Drumnagorrach
03-08-2016, 11:33 AM
Some good ideas there ,thanks , maybe send the ecu for re mapping. That would help the light throttle running.
However , before I go spending money that ,i cant afford, is there any interest in aquiring this fine machine. I hardly ride it now , prefering to get my XT covered in road crap I also feel guilty about putting tedious commuting to work miles on the Monster.

squarehead
03-08-2016, 12:10 PM
That is a very nice Monster, and I can vouch for the S2R1000, a beautiful bike and fun to live with.

Sure it has character, and I reckon you may live to regret selling it Lee.

Good luck with the sale, someone is going to be very fortunate to own this.

Goofle
03-08-2016, 04:19 PM
Pm sent (regarding ECU remapping, not to purchase, mores the pity!).

Drumnagorrach
03-08-2016, 06:13 PM
If your ECU is a Magneti Marelli IAW 5AM, then there are Rexxer downloads available for the S2R 1000 with both standard cans/slip-ons or full systems. Neil at Cornerspeed (http://cornerspeed.co.uk/tuning.php) offers a postal service where you send him your ECU and he will send it back remapped within a couple of days.

He did my 1100 Evo and it transformed the low speed running. Highly recommended.

By the way, I'm also a member of the 14 tooth front sprocket club!

Did you send your ecu off for remapping ,or took the whole bike ?

Nottsbiker
03-08-2016, 07:04 PM
I'm guessing ecu as otherwise that would have been one big parcel to send to Nelly ;)

Luddite
03-08-2016, 07:06 PM
Did you send your ecu off for remapping ,or took the whole bike ?

Hi Drum

I sent Neil just my ECU. From memory, I think I sent it on a Friday and had the remap back by the following Thursday. Very convenient and very effective.

My bike prior to the Evo was also an S2R 1000 (or 1100 in my case thanks to a Moto Rapido big bore kit!). I had a Power Commander with custom map but it only came into play at higher revs/throttle openings because I couldn't, at the time, disconnect the O2 sensors so, consequently, low speed running continued to be controlled by the closed loop lambda circuit. Had I had the option at the time, I would definitely have chosen to have the original ECU reflashed. It's more effective and about half the cost of the Power Commander with dyno time.

Give Neil a ring at Cornerspeed (01623 23894) to discuss your requirements. He's very knowledgeable and helpful.

Darren69
04-08-2016, 06:08 PM
So now you know what you need to do Lee, take heed and get it remapped and disable lambda in the ecu by Nelly and enjoy riding it . Its a very, very nice looking bike, with probably the best air cooled motor they ever made (1000DS) and in the best colour too. Red or even yellow may be faster but black is more badass! :) If I were looking to buy an S2R then yours would be pretty high on my list, not seen a better one recently, in fact not seen any S2R1000's at all for sale, mostly 800's. The 1000's had a pretty short production run really.

Flip
04-08-2016, 09:47 PM
And lets not get into a 'going down to a 14T front as opposed to going up on the rear sprocket' debate here but keep the bike- it's lovely!!

DrD
04-08-2016, 11:55 PM
If you can afford to keep and maintain it, use the other bike for commuting and keep the Monster for nice days out. Do the man maths on the ECU remap and sort the chain-sprocket out when it needs replacing.
It wont suffer from the daily commute and will be better for the good days riding when it is used.
You then have a well kept hard to come by Monster with one of the best air-cooled motors that Ducati have produced.

Drumnagorrach
05-08-2016, 08:57 AM
If you can afford to keep and maintain it, use the other bike for commuting and keep the Monster for nice days out. Do the man maths on the ECU remap and sort the chain-sprocket out when it needs replacing.
It wont suffer from the daily commute and will be better for the good days riding when it is used.
You then have a well kept hard to come by Monster with one of the best air-cooled motors that Ducati have produced.

That was my plan when I got the XT. The plan went wrong when I found out how little my pension was worth ( thank you bankers ) . I can see a time when Something goes wrong that I cant fix and not having the dosh to pay for the dealers time . There is nothing on the XT that I cant fix. The Monster has a lot of electrics that could go wrong .
However , I hear what you all are saying and am leaning to keeping it and maybe selling a kidney if needed👍

Drumnagorrach
09-08-2016, 05:51 PM
Back on the subject of selling my S2R , what would be a reasonable asking price ?
I had a look on e bay and there are no S2R 1000 for sale ,just 800 's.
Thing is my workmate will be selling the Guzzi, that I sold to him a few years ago ,to buy a Ducati and I want it back .
Did I mention before that the S2R is up to date on it's service book ?

Darren69
10-08-2016, 09:44 AM
One on ebay now:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUCATI-MONSTER-S2R-1000-THE-ORIGINAL-AIR-COOLED-NAKED-/232044196949?hash=item3606e97455:g:MHEAAOSwaB5XkcW Y

johndo
10-08-2016, 04:58 PM
I would love to get it remapped but there just isn't anyone I know of within 400 miles ,not a fan of low gearing .

Do you have the DP ecu in it at moment ,if not l can give you one to try as got a spare in the garage.

Drumnagorrach
10-08-2016, 06:15 PM
Thanks for the Offer Johndo, yes it has the DP ecu ,O2 sensor is off too .
Cheers

Drumnagorrach
10-08-2016, 06:17 PM
One on ebay now:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUCATI-MONSTER-S2R-1000-THE-ORIGINAL-AIR-COOLED-NAKED-/232044196949?hash=item3606e97455:g:MHEAAOSwaB5XkcW Y

I have tried mine on E Bay at £3950 more to see if it will sell , mine is a lot nicer than the silver one at £3500. It has the awfull standard colostomy bag exhaust too .