Does anybody know where I can buy a bracket (or two) for a high mounted exhaust can on a Monster 600 ? I assume the bracket would fit onto the trellis frame and suspend the hanging strap from it in order to support the exhaust. Cheers.
Searching for a bracket to fit a high mounted exhaust
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Martin C
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Are you sure you can route the exhaust pipes so that they don’t fry your legs or backside?
The OEM brackets are aluminium plate, bent to suit and bolt under the undertray, through the lock mechanism.
There are 2 of them, 1 left, 1 right IIRC you could fit just the one if you only have 1 can?
Not sure if still available from Ducati though? Wouldn't be too difficult to make something if not.
You can see the left side on this pic of mine, M600 will be the same as M900
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There are 2 of them, 1 left, 1 right IIRC you could fit just the one if you only have 1 can?
Not sure if still available from Ducati though? Wouldn't be too difficult to make something if not.
You can see the left side on this pic of mine, M600 will be the same as M900
To add, a search found a complete hi-level system on USA ebay. Not what you're looking for but you can see the brackets in the pictures.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/16675582658...4B0RP0&hash=item26d36bfb94:g:RLgAAOSwyUtmPm19
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/16675582658...4B0RP0&hash=item26d36bfb94:g:RLgAAOSwyUtmPm19
Darren69
Transmaniacon MOC
Those are the Termignoni ones the other type I have seen are like in picture 5
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/31438710...hXfc3IYTgy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/31438710...hXfc3IYTgy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Yes I did consider something similar where the bracket attaches to the trellis frame ... I wasn't sure if it would hold the can securely enough. Guess it's ok if you have managed to do it. Sounds like an easier solution to get the bits. Thanks.
My 900 had high level Remus pipes and silencers when I first bought it, but I soon hoiked them off and sold them. I can't remember even riding it with those as they were too loud and made it look like a wheelbarrow.
They were held on with P-clips as I recall and attached to the grab handles rather than the seat rail I think?
Be aware that the hugger uses up pretty much all the space available under the seat undertray when on full bounce, so try and avoid bracketry that goes under the tray if you can.
Also there is not enough room behind the footrest hangars for the pipes if they are to miss the hugger and swinging arm, so spacers are needed between frame/engine and the hangers.
They will be about 25mm diameter with 10mm holes for the engine and 8mm for the frame.
Thickness will be in the region of 10mm depending on how much room you need to gain.
They were held on with P-clips as I recall and attached to the grab handles rather than the seat rail I think?
Be aware that the hugger uses up pretty much all the space available under the seat undertray when on full bounce, so try and avoid bracketry that goes under the tray if you can.
Also there is not enough room behind the footrest hangars for the pipes if they are to miss the hugger and swinging arm, so spacers are needed between frame/engine and the hangers.
They will be about 25mm diameter with 10mm holes for the engine and 8mm for the frame.
Thickness will be in the region of 10mm depending on how much room you need to gain.
Thanks Gary, lots of useful and important points to consider there. The spacers in particular so I'll investigate that when I start .... I'm planning this as a winter project after the MOT but I'll definitely try and avoid the wheelbarrow appearance !
Zimbo
Active member
The couple of monsters I have had with high mounted exhausts had pretty simple top mounts, essentially an aluminium strap, shaped to go over the top of the frame rails, and the cans hung from that. One set was silmoter, the other mivvi. As Gary has said, spacers needed to get clearance.
Darren69
Transmaniacon MOC
The spare set of Termignoni ones I had were sold back in 2017.
I think Spuggy had them but I don't see it on the thread.
http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=55435
I don't even know if he is still around or has them. AFAIK they were only sold with the exhaust kits.
I have seen some on google that mount to the rear pillion pegs and use the clamp upside down but I don't know if that was a homemade solution.
I think Spuggy had them but I don't see it on the thread.
http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=55435
I don't even know if he is still around or has them. AFAIK they were only sold with the exhaust kits.
I have seen some on google that mount to the rear pillion pegs and use the clamp upside down but I don't know if that was a homemade solution.
Thanks that makes sense. Yes the spacers you and Gary mention seem to be essential in the fitting. I assume it is for the 2 bolts on the footpeg hanger and the 2 bolts on the engine/brake pedal support ? Doe this mean I need to get longer bolts to accommodate the spacers ?
OK thanks. Sounds like it could be a homemade solution, might not be secure enough.
walkingpictures
preneolithic frebie
Spuggy was last active on here on 19 May 2024 so is still around!!
Yes it does.
And they're specials so not easy to obtain.
There are other ways to make up a composite fastener though.
I believe Gazza looked into this a few years back but I couldn't find the old thread.
Maybe he'll be along with more info presently.
Ah! just seen this.
The short answer is that you might not need longer bolts, but it's something to check for sure.
The left side engine bolts are a little longer than the right side ones due to the side stand bracket already holding the left hanger off a bit further. It's possible that you might not even have to space the left side bottom.
So if you need longer ones on the right, then it might be possible to get some left side ones. (trying not to call them left hand to avoid confusion, they are all RH thread.)
Moto Rapido would almost certainly be able to source those.
If requiring longer 8mm shoulder bolts for the upper mounts then there may still be hope, as early models used one shoulder bolt to fix an earth strap and had room for a nut on the end. Perhaps these are available too?
The reason I made up some specials was that I discovered a previous owner had improvised (I'm being generous here!) some shoulder bolts by winding some insulation tape round some standard bolts.. Thanks whoever you are!
I rather liked the idea of the top hat adapters that were sold by TPO at the time, but they were very expensive, more so to get them from the US and now not in business I think?
My answer was to buy some 25mm aluminium bar and get a mate to turn some up to my design.
They mimic the shoulder @ 12.5mm diameter x 19mm long with a through hole 10mm clearance for a standard M10 bolt.
The head mimics the cup washers found on the oil cooler and headlamp mounts.
I made the counterbores for low cap heads, but I'm now thinking of a redesign using countersunk as I can't find any Ti low heads the right size.
The upper ones are sized for M8, but the shoulder length and head remains the same.
I've just read that they should have washers under the shoulders, which makes a lot of sense, since the bearing surface is a mere 1mm wide. I'm thinking as I type that a full set of thick washers from my 25mm bar would be good, including a little counterbore to support the end of the shoulder/top hat.
If I do commission another set with countersinks instead of counter bores and with special washers, I'll make some drawings and pass them on.
I could measure up my originals anyway if anyone wants the dims. The original drawings are held in cyber-limbo on a long inaccessible file!! Sorry.
The short answer is that you might not need longer bolts, but it's something to check for sure.
The left side engine bolts are a little longer than the right side ones due to the side stand bracket already holding the left hanger off a bit further. It's possible that you might not even have to space the left side bottom.
So if you need longer ones on the right, then it might be possible to get some left side ones. (trying not to call them left hand to avoid confusion, they are all RH thread.)
Moto Rapido would almost certainly be able to source those.
If requiring longer 8mm shoulder bolts for the upper mounts then there may still be hope, as early models used one shoulder bolt to fix an earth strap and had room for a nut on the end. Perhaps these are available too?
The reason I made up some specials was that I discovered a previous owner had improvised (I'm being generous here!) some shoulder bolts by winding some insulation tape round some standard bolts.. Thanks whoever you are!
I rather liked the idea of the top hat adapters that were sold by TPO at the time, but they were very expensive, more so to get them from the US and now not in business I think?
My answer was to buy some 25mm aluminium bar and get a mate to turn some up to my design.
They mimic the shoulder @ 12.5mm diameter x 19mm long with a through hole 10mm clearance for a standard M10 bolt.
The head mimics the cup washers found on the oil cooler and headlamp mounts.
I made the counterbores for low cap heads, but I'm now thinking of a redesign using countersunk as I can't find any Ti low heads the right size.
The upper ones are sized for M8, but the shoulder length and head remains the same.
I've just read that they should have washers under the shoulders, which makes a lot of sense, since the bearing surface is a mere 1mm wide. I'm thinking as I type that a full set of thick washers from my 25mm bar would be good, including a little counterbore to support the end of the shoulder/top hat.
If I do commission another set with countersinks instead of counter bores and with special washers, I'll make some drawings and pass them on.
I could measure up my originals anyway if anyone wants the dims. The original drawings are held in cyber-limbo on a long inaccessible file!! Sorry.
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spuggy
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Yup, I snagged those - scored a nice pair of Remus-branded DP high-level Titanium cans from Dirty (I think) and needed a fitting kit.
I pop in from time-to-time to make sure you guys are behaving yourselves
I dragged the cans & fitting kit back over the pond and put them on the 2000 900Sie I bought here...
Yes. And there's a very, very, good reason that you got a DP ECU with those kits. The 900ies, with those pipes but without the DP ECU, can barely keep themselves running below 2000 RPM. Ask me how I know...
Yeh, Mr Gazza is pretty much spot-on, as I recall (been a while).
Both the top mounts on the footrest hangers, left and right side, got longer shouldered bolts and a little 10mm(?) black anodized alloy doughnut spacer. Which I don't see on the parts diagram for the factory setup at all.
And the bottom mounts on the left side hanger (around the side stand) get a couple of thicker spacers - maybe 5-10mm from memory - and correspondingly longer bolts than original.
Otherwise there isn't room for the uplink pipes to clear between the swing arm and the hangers - they're fairly tight (like 2-3mm clearance) on the inside of the hanger when fitted.
I *thought* I remembered moving the bolts/spacers from the left bottom fittings to the right side, and installing the new, longer, spacers & bolts on the left. But glancing quickly at the bike, don't see spacers on the right side bottom fittings at all.
I'd be more than happy to measure the brackets and/or spacers. But can only give one side of the picture.
Oh, and I'm at least "fairly sure" that I have some used DP top brackets *somewhere* I bought off Flea Bay - but they never came with the longer bolts or the spacers (like that Ebay auction Dukedemo posted doesn't list them, even though the guy seems to think it's a "complete kit"). But realistically, don't hold your breath - even though I'd be more than happy to pass them on, having moved a bunch of times since, I don't know what box they're in, much less which continent that's on...
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spuggy
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Yeh, take a look at this auction for an S4 DP high-level kit:
Ducati Monster M900 M400 S4 Termignoni Full Exhaust Muffler
Note the complete set of shouldered bolts & spacers?
IIRC, S4 kits were offered in 3 flavours:
-100 - Slip-ons & ECU
-200 - Slip-ons, DP airbox cover/K&N filter, ECU
-300 - Slip-ons, DP airbox cover/K&N filter, 50mm headers & ECU
All of the DP ECUs supplied with these kits had separate part #'s - eg unique for each kit. Presumably a different map flashed on it..
This apparently restored most of the power that the 916 lost from the 44mm (I think) headers that the factory used on the S4.
Ducati Monster M900 M400 S4 Termignoni Full Exhaust Muffler
Note the complete set of shouldered bolts & spacers?
IIRC, S4 kits were offered in 3 flavours:
-100 - Slip-ons & ECU
-200 - Slip-ons, DP airbox cover/K&N filter, ECU
-300 - Slip-ons, DP airbox cover/K&N filter, 50mm headers & ECU
All of the DP ECUs supplied with these kits had separate part #'s - eg unique for each kit. Presumably a different map flashed on it..
This apparently restored most of the power that the 916 lost from the 44mm (I think) headers that the factory used on the S4.