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Old 16-07-2017, 04:47 PM   #1
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Question Close enough to zero back brake......

Having only covered minimal mileage since collection my Evo, I had notic d I could not really get on the back brake as such, thinking I may need to adjust the lever..... I finally got to chance to take a look.

I seem to have travel all the way to the stop and next to no purchase really noticeable when stamping on it as such.

Just a bleed or could this be a shot M/S?

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Old 16-07-2017, 04:58 PM   #2
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I've got same issue although probably not as severe as yours
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Old 16-07-2017, 05:12 PM   #3
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Oddly it passed an MOT about 6weeks ago...... maybe I'm expecting too much....
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Old 16-07-2017, 05:19 PM   #4
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Mine is also rubbish !!! Holds the bike for a hill start, but that's about it
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Old 16-07-2017, 05:21 PM   #5
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Mine is also rubbish !!! Holds the bike for a hill start, but that's about it
Are you getting full travel on the brake, I don't feel I get any real bite.
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Old 16-07-2017, 05:25 PM   #6
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My toes are pointing almost directly down to the tarmac to get anything resembling a brake, I should sort it but TBH I use the front 98% of the time
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Old 16-07-2017, 05:59 PM   #7
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Similar to bazread it'll hold it on a hill etc my toes are more or less point at the ground but it's fine for what i need
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Old 16-07-2017, 07:00 PM   #8
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Before you suspect the master cylinder, try thoroughly bleeding the rear brake as it sounds like you may have air in the system. Here's what I posted on an earlier thread:

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...d.php?p=545067

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Sorry you're having trouble bleeding the rear brake. I did mine earlier this year after I had to reposition the hydraulic brake light switch and it's a complete PITA to bleed as the nipple is on the bottom of the caliper. I've found it helps to remove the caliper, flip it over so the nipple's on top and slide it on the top run of the disc (put some protective tape on the caliper to stop it rubbing on the swingarm). If you've got a vacuum bleeder or even a syringe to help draw the fluid through, that speeds things up.

It does take three or four reservoirs full to get a firm pedal but, once bled, mine will lock the rear wheel with the ABS off.
Because the bleed nipple is on the bottom of the caliper you really need to remove it and turn it upside-down to do a proper job, which means the wheel (and exhaust) will also have to come off.

Sounds like a faff I know, but you'll have a decent brake capable of locking the wheel as a reward.

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Old 16-07-2017, 07:18 PM   #9
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Strangely my 796 has the sharpest rear brake of any bike I've owned in 20 yrs. My MV brake is non existent, makes it interesting jumping from one bike to the other!
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Old 16-07-2017, 07:25 PM   #10
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just to add. as above, no pedal at all, did bleed before our hebs trip and was much better, after 200 mile.. no pedal. but put up with it till i got home, 1400 mile later..

the caliper wouldnt bleed at all, even tried reverse bleed.
backed off the banjo on the abs... frothy frothy frothy.. oops.

now decided the master cylinder is shot.

who would be our preferred supplier gents, i need to order in the morning.






oh, an wtf is going on with photobucket !!!



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Old 16-07-2017, 08:22 PM   #11
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just to add. as above, no pedal at all, did bleed before our hebs trip and was much better, after 200 mile.. no pedal. but put up with it till i got home, 1400 mile later..

the caliper wouldnt bleed at all, even tried reverse bleed.
backed off the banjo on the abs... frothy frothy frothy.. oops.

now decided the master cylinder is shot.

who would be our preferred supplier gents, i need to order in the morning.
Sorry you're still having problems, Garry.

Thanks for the photo of the ABS unit with bleed nipple fitted; any problems with clearance?

When you bled the caliper, did you try flipping it so the nipple was on top?

If you're sure it's the master cylinder, look here re. rebuild kits:

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=55498

Let us know how you get on.
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Old 16-07-2017, 08:51 PM   #12
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Ludd mucker I tried every which way including lose. What convinced me eventually was to clamp of the hose from the cylinder. . First pump half pressure. . Second pump. . Back to the floor. So going to go the new master route. Cheers for the input btw.
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Old 16-07-2017, 08:57 PM   #13
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I'll try giving it a bleed, like Bazread I use the front like 98% of the time but there is times I'd really like to have it there!
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Old 16-07-2017, 09:45 PM   #14
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That's a real pain, Garry. Are you planning to refurbish your m/c or get a new one?

The part number of the m/c is 62540041A and my first port of call would be Craig and Luke at Moto Rapido (01962 873981).

Just as a guide, Stein Dinse have them at €52.

Hope you sort it soon.
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Old 17-07-2017, 07:50 AM   #15
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Moto rapido, £49, not worth mucking about with a repair at that price.

Should be here tomorrow, ....

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