Oil consumption

17-01-2004, 03:35 PM

Hi All

Quick question, what should the oil consumption be for a monster 900ie yr 2001 with 2800 miles on the clock?

Thanks

Chas

gary tompkins · 17-01-2004, 04:22 PM

Mine uses bugger all between changes. I think the most I've ever had to top up by was about a 1/4 of a litre at most.

It's now got just under 12K on the clock

17-01-2004, 07:51 PM

I buy 4L to do an oil change

Use 3.5L

keep the other 0.5L for topping-up, but never need to

The 0.5L keeps for the next oil change

spacemonkey · 17-01-2004, 08:48 PM

Mine used to go 800 miles per litre!!! Then I rebuilt the top end and put semi synth in and it now doesn't use a drop...

17-01-2004, 09:38 PM

And what oil do you all recommend? Do you stick to the "Use Shell Advance Ultra 4" sticker?

Dave

Pedro · 17-01-2004, 11:20 PM

I use Semi Synthetic in mine after speaking to Dr Desmo (Steve Hilary) at Moto Rapido. He uses Rock Oil in all his bikes, including his race bikes.

My 18k mile m900 uses about half a litre in 1000 miles

Ped

17-01-2004, 11:26 PM

So I can just throw semi-synth straight in with a new filter? What weight, ect is Rock Oil stuff?

Cheers!

Dave

Pedro · 17-01-2004, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cat & Fiddler
So I can just throw semi-synth straight in with a new filter? What weight, ect is Rock Oil stuff?

Cheers!

Dave

Hey Dave

I tried using fully syth but the oil light came on at very low tickover (750rpm) so spoke to Steve - he basicaly said that Semi Syth is fine for Dukes (hence the use in his race bike - 1056cc 916 I think). He uses it on all his service jobs unless asked other wise. Oil pressure fine now with Rock Oil semi-synth

Can remember the grade at the mo ad it chuffing cold outside so I'll have a look in the morning.

Ped

gary tompkins · 18-01-2004, 10:57 AM

Still sticking with Shell advance in the monster at the moment, but I can vouch for Rock Oil. I used 20/50 semi synth Rock oil exclusively in my 350 Morini sport, which despite over 60000 miles of being thrashed without mercy (they love it) never needed any major engine rebuild.

Pretty amazing when you consider the only filter was a wire gauze strainer, and the lubing for the rocker gear is just splash feed via the pushrod tubes.

God I miss that bike

spacemonkey · 18-01-2004, 02:07 PM

I used Castrol GPS semi synth bike oil (10/40 I think) because it ws good value and because I can get it in Halfords, which means being able to get it anywhere in the country 7 days a week unlike the Motul I used to have before. Silkolene isn't rated highly so avoid that one.

18-01-2004, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pedro
Hey Dave

I tried using fully syth but the oil light came on at very low tickover (750rpm) so spoke to Steve - he basicaly said that Semi Syth is fine for Dukes (hence the use in his race bike - 1056cc 916 I think). He uses it on all his service jobs unless asked other wise. Oil pressure fine now with Rock Oil semi-synth
Ped

Ped, All Ducati's are made to use FULLY SYNTH. oils. If your oil light comes on when using this, then there must be more of a reason than the oil. And why does your bike idle at 750 rpm, that's too low is it not, and long term will not do the crank a lot of good.
The fact is, fully synth oils are FAR superior than other oils, (Too much to say why on here), and ALL modern engines will benifit by the stuff. That's why it's more expensive. I use it in my CG125, (tho' recommended is mineral oil), because it does a far better job at protecting the engine at all temps, and long term it's cheaper because of longer engine life.

spacemonkey · 19-01-2004, 06:41 PM

True about being 'designed' to run on fully synth, but when the engine was designed by Moses (he never rode it-we all know he rode a Triumph into wherever he went) Fully Synth wasn't on the agenda for mere mortals. A lot of peeps have mentioned fully synth not being too good on some engines. Tony of 2 4 Italia, Ringwood, says that he has had to replace many starter motor 'clutches' (?) on Ducatis which was due to the fully synth not providing enough protection at start up. And if you've ever seen 5/40 fully synth it is like water... Don't forget that once your engine has had fully synth in it can't go back to fully mineral due to something to do with the oil impregnating the oil seals and they don't like it when the mineral goes in. Or something like that...
I agree about that tickover though. Raise it!!

Pedro · 19-01-2004, 09:25 PM

All good points chaps!!

Tickover has now been sorted and it runs ok.

The issue was that the Fully Synth was like water as it got warm. Speaking to Steve he'd experienced this on almost new engines and recommended the Semi Synth (he learnt he trade at Ferraci in the US so knows his stuff).

With the Rock Oil, all's well!!

Ped - thanking you for your concern for my Monny!!!!

19-01-2004, 09:34 PM

Done 38000 on mine on fully synth. Never needed topping up between services. Buy whatever ones on offer but try and go for the heavier viscosites as the lighter grades are no good for summer temperatures in a Duc. Even though the W in a 5w40 stands for winter, thats the cold viscosity and any bike with a motor designed 25 years ago wont like the real thin stuff even in summer. Your owners manual has a good chart of viscosity vs engine temperature so go by that.....

spacemonkey · 19-01-2004, 09:42 PM

When I buy my olive farm I'll have to experiment with olive oil....

17-01-2004, 03:35 PM	#1
chas Guest Posts: n/a	Oil consumption Hi All Quick question, what should the oil consumption be for a monster 900ie yr 2001 with 2800 miles on the clock? Thanks Chas

17-01-2004, 04:22 PM	#2
gary tompkins 1/2 man - 1/2 pogo-stick Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dartford, Kent Bike: M900ie Posts: 7,241	Not much here Mine uses bugger all between changes. I think the most I've ever had to top up by was about a 1/4 of a litre at most. It's now got just under 12K on the clock __________________ GT Fully paid up member of the S.A.S. (Scottoiler Appreciation Society) 27,000 miles on original chain - and still going strong!

17-01-2004, 07:51 PM	#3
Desmodue Guest Posts: n/a	Oil consumption I buy 4L to do an oil change Use 3.5L keep the other 0.5L for topping-up, but never need to The 0.5L keeps for the next oil change

17-01-2004, 08:48 PM	#4
spacemonkey I see dead people. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Carving a slice thru the braindead masses..(pun intended) Bike: M900 Posts: 1,464	Mine used to go 800 miles per litre!!! Then I rebuilt the top end and put semi synth in and it now doesn't use a drop... __________________ http://www.jasperfforde.com/swindon/7wonders.html

17-01-2004, 11:20 PM	#6
Pedro Ciao, come stai? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 4,157	I use Semi Synthetic in mine after speaking to Dr Desmo (Steve Hilary) at Moto Rapido. He uses Rock Oil in all his bikes, including his race bikes. My 18k mile m900 uses about half a litre in 1000 miles Ped __________________ M900 - 1993! Monster 1200R!

17-01-2004, 09:38 PM	#5
Mr Cake Guest Posts: n/a	And what oil do you all recommend? Do you stick to the "Use Shell Advance Ultra 4" sticker? Dave

17-01-2004, 11:26 PM	#7
Mr Cake Guest Posts: n/a	So I can just throw semi-synth straight in with a new filter? What weight, ect is Rock Oil stuff? Cheers! Dave

18-01-2004, 10:57 AM	#9
gary tompkins 1/2 man - 1/2 pogo-stick Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dartford, Kent Bike: M900ie Posts: 7,241	Rock Oil Still sticking with Shell advance in the monster at the moment, but I can vouch for Rock Oil. I used 20/50 semi synth Rock oil exclusively in my 350 Morini sport, which despite over 60000 miles of being thrashed without mercy (they love it) never needed any major engine rebuild. Pretty amazing when you consider the only filter was a wire gauze strainer, and the lubing for the rocker gear is just splash feed via the pushrod tubes. God I miss that bike __________________ GT Fully paid up member of the S.A.S. (Scottoiler Appreciation Society) 27,000 miles on original chain - and still going strong!

18-01-2004, 02:07 PM	#10
spacemonkey I see dead people. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Carving a slice thru the braindead masses..(pun intended) Bike: M900 Posts: 1,464	I used Castrol GPS semi synth bike oil (10/40 I think) because it ws good value and because I can get it in Halfords, which means being able to get it anywhere in the country 7 days a week unlike the Motul I used to have before. Silkolene isn't rated highly so avoid that one. __________________ http://www.jasperfforde.com/swindon/7wonders.html

19-01-2004, 06:41 PM	#12
spacemonkey I see dead people. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Carving a slice thru the braindead masses..(pun intended) Bike: M900 Posts: 1,464	True about being 'designed' to run on fully synth, but when the engine was designed by Moses (he never rode it-we all know he rode a Triumph into wherever he went) Fully Synth wasn't on the agenda for mere mortals. A lot of peeps have mentioned fully synth not being too good on some engines. Tony of 2 4 Italia, Ringwood, says that he has had to replace many starter motor 'clutches' (?) on Ducatis which was due to the fully synth not providing enough protection at start up. And if you've ever seen 5/40 fully synth it is like water... Don't forget that once your engine has had fully synth in it can't go back to fully mineral due to something to do with the oil impregnating the oil seals and they don't like it when the mineral goes in. Or something like that... I agree about that tickover though. Raise it!! __________________ http://www.jasperfforde.com/swindon/7wonders.html

19-01-2004, 09:25 PM	#13
Pedro Ciao, come stai? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 4,157	All good points chaps!! Tickover has now been sorted and it runs ok. The issue was that the Fully Synth was like water as it got warm. Speaking to Steve he'd experienced this on almost new engines and recommended the Semi Synth (he learnt he trade at Ferraci in the US so knows his stuff). With the Rock Oil, all's well!! Ped - thanking you for your concern for my Monny!!!! __________________ M900 - 1993! Monster 1200R!

19-01-2004, 09:34 PM	#14
Duncan Guest Posts: n/a	Done 38000 on mine on fully synth. Never needed topping up between services. Buy whatever ones on offer but try and go for the heavier viscosites as the lighter grades are no good for summer temperatures in a Duc. Even though the W in a 5w40 stands for winter, thats the cold viscosity and any bike with a motor designed 25 years ago wont like the real thin stuff even in summer. Your owners manual has a good chart of viscosity vs engine temperature so go by that.....

19-01-2004, 09:42 PM	#15
spacemonkey I see dead people. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Carving a slice thru the braindead masses..(pun intended) Bike: M900 Posts: 1,464	When I buy my olive farm I'll have to experiment with olive oil.... __________________ http://www.jasperfforde.com/swindon/7wonders.html