821 neutral selecting

27-10-2019, 04:08 PM

Hi new to Ducati’s have an 821 monster 2015 and finding it hard to select neutral at a stop unless i can get lucky and get it while coasting or turn engine if and it selects fine just can’t seem to do it while the engine is running bike has less than 4000 miles just had fresh oil change chain tension is fine any ideas or is this common 🤔

27-10-2019, 04:19 PM

You are not alone Brett, had mine from new , it does get better with miles, I am just under 7000 miles now and it's rare I can't engage neutral .

27-10-2019, 04:27 PM

Really it is a normal issue then! To be fair it is annoying but I love the bike that much at the moment I can accept it but was hoping it would get better I was also wandering if the fact I had fitted evotech levers had made it worse . Great bike though

27-10-2019, 04:37 PM

I know why you mean, stopping then rocking back and forth,flicking up and down the lever is a pain,stick with it! I have standard levers still at the moment so it's not the fact you have changed to evotech.

I agree it's a great bike, a keeper for me

slob · 27-10-2019, 04:39 PM

As Mike says: a common issue with new ducati clutches, it will improve as it beds in.

27-10-2019, 04:59 PM

I hope so dude I was expecting a few Ducati quirks so not a major drama the grin factor makes up for it for sure

slob · 27-10-2019, 05:41 PM

The other trick besides snicking into neutral as you pull up is to rock the bike back and forward a few inches, it will usually allow you to find it.

27-10-2019, 06:20 PM

Been trying that aswell dude but it just won’t play ball have looked on the web and like you said it’s a bit of a common thing

Uncle Bob · 28-10-2019, 08:30 AM

My evo has done about 3k now and finding neutral is still a bit of a lottery. What I've found is that it's worse if it hasn't been ridden for a few weeks, and it does get better once it has warmed up a bit. I think the clutch is just a tiny bit sticky.

mickj · 28-10-2019, 09:17 AM

Try fitting the original levers to see if its any better, if it is use them till you've got a few more miles on it.

Darren69 · 28-10-2019, 10:03 AM

Also check your chain tension. Just try slacking it off a bit, this can help especially if its over-tight with you on the bike.

Luddite · 28-10-2019, 12:15 PM

If you haven't done so already, try adjusting the gearshift pedal up or down and see if that helps. Sometimes just a few millimetres either way can give you more precise control. I've never yet had one set right for me from the factory.

29-10-2019, 07:14 PM

Thanks everyone for some useful tips looks like some jobs for the weekend ��

04-11-2019, 09:27 AM

As Darren said, check the chain tension, but also check the clutch lever free play, it should be between 10-20mm at the end. If it's outside this range, you will have a job getting neutral. My bike was a bit off until around 1500 miles.

Adjusting the gear lever position helps too.

27-10-2019, 04:08 PM	#1
Rudeboy99 Guest Posts: n/a	821 neutral selecting Hi new to Ducati’s have an 821 monster 2015 and finding it hard to select neutral at a stop unless i can get lucky and get it while coasting or turn engine if and it selects fine just can’t seem to do it while the engine is running bike has less than 4000 miles just had fresh oil change chain tension is fine any ideas or is this common 🤔

28-10-2019, 09:17 AM	#10
mickj Registered User Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Clevedon Bike: M1200s Posts: 554	Try fitting the original levers to see if its any better, if it is use them till you've got a few more miles on it. __________________ Keep the rubber side down. Mick

28-10-2019, 10:03 AM	#11
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	Also check your chain tension. Just try slacking it off a bit, this can help especially if its over-tight with you on the bike. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

27-10-2019, 04:19 PM	#2
Moco1961 Guest Posts: n/a	You are not alone Brett, had mine from new , it does get better with miles, I am just under 7000 miles now and it's rare I can't engage neutral .

27-10-2019, 04:27 PM	#3
Rudeboy99 Guest Posts: n/a	Really it is a normal issue then! To be fair it is annoying but I love the bike that much at the moment I can accept it but was hoping it would get better I was also wandering if the fact I had fitted evotech levers had made it worse . Great bike though

27-10-2019, 04:37 PM	#4
Moco1961 Guest Posts: n/a	I know why you mean, stopping then rocking back and forth,flicking up and down the lever is a pain,stick with it! I have standard levers still at the moment so it's not the fact you have changed to evotech. I agree it's a great bike, a keeper for me

27-10-2019, 04:39 PM	#5
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,708	As Mike says: a common issue with new ducati clutches, it will improve as it beds in.

27-10-2019, 04:59 PM	#6
Rudeboy99 Guest Posts: n/a	I hope so dude I was expecting a few Ducati quirks so not a major drama the grin factor makes up for it for sure

27-10-2019, 05:41 PM	#7
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,708	The other trick besides snicking into neutral as you pull up is to rock the bike back and forward a few inches, it will usually allow you to find it.

27-10-2019, 06:20 PM	#8
Rudeboy99 Guest Posts: n/a	Been trying that aswell dude but it just won’t play ball have looked on the web and like you said it’s a bit of a common thing

28-10-2019, 08:30 AM	#9
Uncle Bob Registered User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Milton Keynes Bike: M1100evo Posts: 232	My evo has done about 3k now and finding neutral is still a bit of a lottery. What I've found is that it's worse if it hasn't been ridden for a few weeks, and it does get better once it has warmed up a bit. I think the clutch is just a tiny bit sticky.

28-10-2019, 12:15 PM	#12
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	If you haven't done so already, try adjusting the gearshift pedal up or down and see if that helps. Sometimes just a few millimetres either way can give you more precise control. I've never yet had one set right for me from the factory.

29-10-2019, 07:14 PM	#13
Rudeboy99 Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks everyone for some useful tips looks like some jobs for the weekend ��

04-11-2019, 09:27 AM	#14
Wildfire Guest Posts: n/a	As Darren said, check the chain tension, but also check the clutch lever free play, it should be between 10-20mm at the end. If it's outside this range, you will have a job getting neutral. My bike was a bit off until around 1500 miles. Adjusting the gear lever position helps too.