Big brother will be watching - Page 2

Saint aka ML · 26-02-2019, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Darren69

It's dangerous anyway but even more so for motorcycles. Can you imagine being mid corner and it cuts in?

It would not cut in mid corner. You already have cornering abs with gyros being able to detect lean angles accurately in wider range of lean then most if any bikes can lean to.

55 degree is maximum on monster 1200s sensor
It would use same sensor to not cut in.

Darren69 · 26-02-2019, 01:40 PM

So, all of these so called rider aids that allow you to push the envelope aren't really going to be worth sh!t when this comes into force? The opposite in fact as if given the choice then people won't want them on.

emzedder · 26-02-2019, 06:27 PM

The industry has done a poor job of self regulation, top end model performance is obscene ... not that I think that is fantastic progress and engineering ... but non biker rule makers will never see anything but enforced regulation for a minority population that is considered using roads for habitual speeding. Incorrectly maybe but that's what may happen. There is too much money in cars industry (fossil or electric) to be as heavily impacted unfortunately.

Saint aka ML · 26-02-2019, 06:44 PM

Frankly I doubt this will ever become obligatory technology. Every single rich super car owner in any country affected by it will make sure of that. Many of them are paying those politicians wages directly or via "3rd" party.

Capo · 26-02-2019, 08:43 PM

Good opportunity for someone to make a black box that will fool this system.

jerry · 27-02-2019, 04:16 AM

mercedes Benz were testing this technology in Thailand on S class limos and it caused a 16 car pile up ,,same thing happened in Germany too for BMW but it was only 5 vehicles

Saint aka ML · 28-02-2019, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jerry

mercedes Benz were testing this technology in Thailand on S class limos and it caused a 16 car pile up ,,same thing happened in Germany too for BMW but it was only 5 vehicles

That only shows everybody should have it.

How did the pile up happen? Driver behind did not pay attention, driver in car with one unit was overtaking at speed limit?

I am not saying I like them but how did the above happen.

If everybody does 60 on a 60 road there can be no accidents unless from opposite lane.

Saint aka ML · 28-02-2019, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Capo

Good opportunity for someone to make a black box that will fool this system.

There will be plenty. I already have software for android phone that fools Aviba blackbox app for insurance.

They did not even try to make it secure.

I can make a car teleport from one place to another.
I can altered departure time and time recorded which in turn alters average speeds.
I can also altered sensitivity of gyro so doing head on at 100mph will be recorded as gently came to a halt.

If tech is built in to car it will be harder but not impossible.

Radio and ecu will have to be hacked (or one of the two) then job a good one.

26-02-2019, 01:40 PM	#17
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	So, all of these so called rider aids that allow you to push the envelope aren't really going to be worth sh!t when this comes into force? The opposite in fact as if given the choice then people won't want them on. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

26-02-2019, 06:44 PM	#19
Saint aka ML Junior ah to be young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,058	Frankly I doubt this will ever become obligatory technology. Every single rich super car owner in any country affected by it will make sure of that. Many of them are paying those politicians wages directly or via "3rd" party. __________________ "I am Lucazade"

27-02-2019, 04:16 AM	#21
jerry Old Git Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cricklade Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,810	mercedes Benz were testing this technology in Thailand on S class limos and it caused a 16 car pile up ,,same thing happened in Germany too for BMW but it was only 5 vehicles __________________ MONSTERMAN

26-02-2019, 06:27 PM	#18
emzedder Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Norwich Bike: Other Ducati Posts: 109	The industry has done a poor job of self regulation, top end model performance is obscene ... not that I think that is fantastic progress and engineering ... but non biker rule makers will never see anything but enforced regulation for a minority population that is considered using roads for habitual speeding. Incorrectly maybe but that's what may happen. There is too much money in cars industry (fossil or electric) to be as heavily impacted unfortunately.

26-02-2019, 08:43 PM	#20
Capo You Are What You Is Join Date: May 2005 Location: A Foward Location Bike: S4r Posts: 1,948	Good opportunity for someone to make a black box that will fool this system.