M900 Suspension Bushes & Throttle Cable

CarloL · 28-01-2019, 06:48 AM

Hey

Throttle Cable, I am on my second cable now in 6 months; are this prone to snapping? Appear to rust and snap

Suspension Bushes -- are these a big job to do? Can you get the bolts in stainless?

Darkness · 28-01-2019, 09:26 AM

Hi. Huge pictures!

The rubber bushes in the footrest hangers are easy to change by hand if you take the hanger off. They are flanged, but soft enough to collapse in on themselves once the bolt is out. Take care not to scratch the hanger if you give them a prod with a screwdriver.

The bolts are specials, with oversized heads and an integral large shouldered body to act as a spacer through the rubber bush. I’m not aware of alternative suppliers, but you can still buy new from Ducati, or get yours polished and replated?

Some 900s have a short earth cable attached to the back of the bolt (Behind the frame) with a small nut. It tends to shear the end off the bolt if not removed first.

CarloL · 28-01-2019, 09:41 AM

Thanks!

Fix up the pics!

CarloL · 02-02-2019, 02:15 PM

I am fitting the choke cable , old one has a plastic hook , clamped by the Handle bars , new does not

Am I missing something ? Remove the plastic hook and put on the new cable ? finding it difficult to see how to remove it

Old

New

Darkness · 02-02-2019, 05:30 PM

The choke cable you have bought is for the earliest bikes. The cable pull is fixed to a tab on the trellis frame on the near side.
Handlebar mounting came later; about ‘95.

I think you may need a 65540031A for your ‘97?

Have a word with Luke or Craig at MotoRapido. They’ll steer you right.

CarloL · 02-02-2019, 06:09 PM

Craig , got me it

I had to prise off the Plastic hook and re-use ; ball ache to get it off !

Darkness · 02-02-2019, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarloL

Craig , got me it

I had to prise off the Plastic hook and re-use ; ball ache to get it off !

Craig should know better than that!

CarloL · 02-02-2019, 07:21 PM

I think it should of had a new plastic hook!

Luddite · 02-02-2019, 08:38 PM

As I understand it, (and I may be wrong!), there were two possible choke arrangements; there's the thumb choke mounted by the left switchgear that Darkness mentioned (65540031A), and the earlier button-pull choke, which was mounted under the tank (65540011A).

Your arrangement seems to use the large guide 82911281A,

which I thought was only from the M600, mounted through the yoke. (I wonder if a previous owner fitted a different choke when the original broke?).

The cable that's compatible with this guide has a different part no. 65540021A. (Maybe it's longer than 65540011A, maybe it has a different mounting?).

Of the three, I'd think that the one Darkness mentioned would be the best and I'm sure it could be retro- or re-fitted to your bike.

Flip · 03-02-2019, 09:12 AM

I would say something odd has gone on with the choke arrangement in the past by a previous owner for whatever reason, as the others have said a '97 900 should have it mounted between the switchgear and the clutch lever/mirror bracket like so:

As an aside, I have never had either the choke or throttle cables brake in my bikes' twenty two years.
Perhaps if it is regularly doing so then it is routed wrongly and maybe rubbing somewhere it shouldn't?

Bitza · 03-02-2019, 04:16 PM

Footrest bracket special bolts replacement, I've used M8 x1.25 x40mm countersunk screws (stainless or titanium) M8 countersunk washers in aluminium, plus spacers 8mm ID, 12mm OD, x19mm, result looks very tidy. Replacing the lower M10 bolts requires a bit more imagination & skill. Bitza

CarloL · 03-02-2019, 05:43 PM

Thanks!

Based on my Vin , that is the correct choke

Did you guys grease the Bushes on the foot peg rest bracket? White Litium Grease?

Flip · 03-02-2019, 06:35 PM

They’re not really bushes as such- are you sure we’re all talking about the same thing here?

The footrest brackets are kind of rubber mounted- presumably to reduce vibration (although I can’t say I’ve ever found it intrusive through my solidly mounted rear-sets) and as already mentioned, are fitted using shouldered M10 fixings that bottom when tightened fully- those I would simply grease the threads of using a little copper slip.

Darren69 · 04-02-2019, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flip

I would say something odd has gone on with the choke arrangement in the past by a previous owner for whatever reason, as the others have said a '97 900 should have it mounted between the switchgear and the clutch lever/mirror bracket like so:

As an aside, I have never had either the choke or throttle cables brake in my bikes' twenty two years.
Perhaps if it is regularly doing so then it is routed wrongly and maybe rubbing somewhere it shouldn't?

I'm the same I've never had a throttle or choke cable break and never had to replace one. I've had my 748 since 2000 and my S4 2008. Same with the 750 and 900 SS I had before those.

Speedo cables broke a couple of times on those old SS bikes and neutral switches used to fail regularly too and rectifiers come to think of it. I think all of those are quite common issues and just annoying. The quality has improved on those components so they don't fail so regularly on the newer bikes

Maybe your cables aren't routed properly? That would be my guess too.

28-01-2019, 06:48 AM	#1
CarloL Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Dublin Ireland Bike: M900 Posts: 298	M900 Suspension Bushes & Throttle Cable Hey Throttle Cable, I am on my second cable now in 6 months; are this prone to snapping? Appear to rust and snap Suspension Bushes -- are these a big job to do? Can you get the bolts in stainless? Last edited by CarloL; 28-01-2019 at 09:40 AM..

28-01-2019, 09:26 AM	#2
Darkness . Join Date: May 2007 Location: Stockbridge Bike: M900 Posts: 1,984	Hi. Huge pictures! The rubber bushes in the footrest hangers are easy to change by hand if you take the hanger off. They are flanged, but soft enough to collapse in on themselves once the bolt is out. Take care not to scratch the hanger if you give them a prod with a screwdriver. The bolts are specials, with oversized heads and an integral large shouldered body to act as a spacer through the rubber bush. I’m not aware of alternative suppliers, but you can still buy new from Ducati, or get yours polished and replated? Some 900s have a short earth cable attached to the back of the bolt (Behind the frame) with a small nut. It tends to shear the end off the bolt if not removed first. __________________ Original and Best since 1993 Last edited by Darkness; 28-01-2019 at 10:02 AM..

02-02-2019, 02:15 PM	#4
CarloL Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Dublin Ireland Bike: M900 Posts: 298	I am fitting the choke cable , old one has a plastic hook , clamped by the Handle bars , new does not Am I missing something ? Remove the plastic hook and put on the new cable ? finding it difficult to see how to remove it Old New Last edited by CarloL; 02-02-2019 at 02:17 PM..

02-02-2019, 05:30 PM	#5
Darkness . Join Date: May 2007 Location: Stockbridge Bike: M900 Posts: 1,984	The choke cable you have bought is for the earliest bikes. The cable pull is fixed to a tab on the trellis frame on the near side. Handlebar mounting came later; about ‘95. I think you may need a 65540031A for your ‘97? Have a word with Luke or Craig at MotoRapido. They’ll steer you right. __________________ Original and Best since 1993 Last edited by Darkness; 02-02-2019 at 05:58 PM..

03-02-2019, 09:12 AM	#10
Flip Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beachtown Bike: M900 Posts: 2,188	I would say something odd has gone on with the choke arrangement in the past by a previous owner for whatever reason, as the others have said a '97 900 should have it mounted between the switchgear and the clutch lever/mirror bracket like so: As an aside, I have never had either the choke or throttle cables brake in my bikes' twenty two years. Perhaps if it is regularly doing so then it is routed wrongly and maybe rubbing somewhere it shouldn't? __________________ You're perfect, yes, it's true- But without me you're only you!

28-01-2019, 09:41 AM	#3
CarloL Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Dublin Ireland Bike: M900 Posts: 298	Thanks! Fix up the pics!

02-02-2019, 06:09 PM	#6
CarloL Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Dublin Ireland Bike: M900 Posts: 298	Craig , got me it I had to prise off the Plastic hook and re-use ; ball ache to get it off !

02-02-2019, 07:21 PM	#8
CarloL Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Dublin Ireland Bike: M900 Posts: 298	I think it should of had a new plastic hook!

02-02-2019, 08:38 PM	#9
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	As I understand it, (and I may be wrong!), there were two possible choke arrangements; there's the thumb choke mounted by the left switchgear that Darkness mentioned (65540031A), and the earlier button-pull choke, which was mounted under the tank (65540011A). Your arrangement seems to use the large guide 82911281A, which I thought was only from the M600, mounted through the yoke. (I wonder if a previous owner fitted a different choke when the original broke?). The cable that's compatible with this guide has a different part no. 65540021A. (Maybe it's longer than 65540011A, maybe it has a different mounting?). Of the three, I'd think that the one Darkness mentioned would be the best and I'm sure it could be retro- or re-fitted to your bike.

03-02-2019, 04:16 PM	#11
Bitza Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Poole Bike: M900ie Posts: 469	Footrest bracket special bolts replacement, I've used M8 x1.25 x40mm countersunk screws (stainless or titanium) M8 countersunk washers in aluminium, plus spacers 8mm ID, 12mm OD, x19mm, result looks very tidy. Replacing the lower M10 bolts requires a bit more imagination & skill. Bitza __________________ Bitza

03-02-2019, 05:43 PM	#12
CarloL Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Dublin Ireland Bike: M900 Posts: 298	Thanks! Based on my Vin , that is the correct choke Did you guys grease the Bushes on the foot peg rest bracket? White Litium Grease? Last edited by CarloL; 03-02-2019 at 05:53 PM..

03-02-2019, 06:35 PM	#13
Flip Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beachtown Bike: M900 Posts: 2,188	They’re not really bushes as such- are you sure we’re all talking about the same thing here? The footrest brackets are kind of rubber mounted- presumably to reduce vibration (although I can’t say I’ve ever found it intrusive through my solidly mounted rear-sets) and as already mentioned, are fitted using shouldered M10 fixings that bottom when tightened fully- those I would simply grease the threads of using a little copper slip. __________________ You're perfect, yes, it's true- But without me you're only you!