Dangerous rider

crust · 05-09-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by utopia

But how? Don't wanna be a vigilante man, but there are some whose tyres I might let down if I saw them parked up. Now that would be a smile....what was that plate again?

So you think interfering with some one else's bike is the answer?

You going to leave him a note telling him you've made his bike unsafe?

Who appointed you judge, jury and executioner?

Before you go interfering with other peoples bikes think how you'd react if you saw somebody else doing it. If I saw some letting a bikes tyres down, anyone's not just mine, is stop them or if there was a copper get him to.

Methinks there's two sides to every story and I'm curious as to what made Mr angry so wound up.

05-09-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by crust

Methinks there's two sides to every story and I'm curious as to what made Mr angry so wound up.

Still, no excuse to try and intentially knock a stranger off their bike, no matter how bad their day was.

06-09-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by crust

So you think interfering with some one else's bike is the answer?

You going to leave him a note telling him you've made his bike unsafe?

Who appointed you judge, jury and executioner?

Before you go interfering with other peoples bikes think how you'd react if you saw somebody else doing it. If I saw some letting a bikes tyres down, anyone's not just mine, is stop them or if there was a copper get him to.

Methinks there's two sides to every story and I'm curious as to what made Mr angry so wound up.

Don't try to defend this idiots actions. Some one trying to smash their way past your bike in the cycling lane, kicking at your wheels, throwing punches at you and swerving in front to try to knock you off is indefensible regardless of what made them angry.

Granted I shouldn't have been in the cycling lane either, but this is London rush hour and most of us will filter down the cycling lane occasionally.

If you ride at break neck speed in the cycling lane through stationary traffic, you can't get angry if someone steps out, another rider pulls in or a cyclist gets in your way. If you can't stop in time, you're going too fast, period.

The cycling lane isn't his own personal race course, and who appointed him judge, jury and most likely executioner in the near future?

06-09-2010, 12:50 PM

I totally agree, why on earth try and work out what his reasons for the aggressive behaviour are?! He sounds nuts, he sounds scary, the commute in town is tricky enough without that kind of crap and he'll give the rest of us good riders a bad name with other road users and probably end up killing someone.

Chin up Stuart!

utopia · 07-09-2010, 10:37 AM

oops, ...er,... Actually I wasn't being serious at all about the tyres. That last bit was kinda satirical, and meant only to caricature the angry demon that we all need to avoid. Maybe I should have made that more obvious, though in my defence I had previously been preaching the "don't react" message (the serious bit) quite loudly,I thought. Your criticisms of someone who would do such a thing are spot on, by the way. My point was that there's a lot of mindless arrogance out there (this type of aggression in a london morning rush hour bus lane would seem to be an example,by anyone's judgement). If I'm honest I've probably behaved a bit like that myself on occaision, but for all those who learn tolerance, humility, awareness and avoidance, there are likely to be more following who havent yet learned, and it is THIS about which it is hard to know what to do. (the letting down of tyres was meant as some sort of comic frustration at this, I certainly didn't mean it personally). Is there more aggression in the culture these days? Or am I just getting old? Anyway I think this all goes way deeper than roadcraft. Its raises all sorts of emotions when it happens to you, at a time when you need to be focussing even more on the road cos others around you are more likely to be distracted too. The bazooka zapping thing is just my strategy for maintaining a smile while I try to react dispassionately, which is about all you can do at the time. While this mr bad might be quite nice generally, the behaviour described has to be judged inconsiderate and dangerous, on the evidence given. Whether or not he was provoked by something Stuart might have done to annoy him, my advice would still be the same..he would have been better to smile, react dispassionately with tolerence, humility etc, then zapped him with his imaginary bazooka and rode on. Its all too easy to get drawn in. Blimey..no-one expects the spanish inquisition..our chief weapons are tolerance, humility, awareness, avoidance, dispassionate reactions, smiles and a bl**y great imaginary bazooka. Hope I'm redeemed now. I'll be more careful.

06-09-2010, 12:50 PM	#4
Lucati Guest Posts: n/a	I totally agree, why on earth try and work out what his reasons for the aggressive behaviour are?! He sounds nuts, he sounds scary, the commute in town is tricky enough without that kind of crap and he'll give the rest of us good riders a bad name with other road users and probably end up killing someone. Chin up Stuart!

07-09-2010, 10:37 AM	#5
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	oops, ...er,... Actually I wasn't being serious at all about the tyres. That last bit was kinda satirical, and meant only to caricature the angry demon that we all need to avoid. Maybe I should have made that more obvious, though in my defence I had previously been preaching the "don't react" message (the serious bit) quite loudly,I thought. Your criticisms of someone who would do such a thing are spot on, by the way. My point was that there's a lot of mindless arrogance out there (this type of aggression in a london morning rush hour bus lane would seem to be an example,by anyone's judgement). If I'm honest I've probably behaved a bit like that myself on occaision, but for all those who learn tolerance, humility, awareness and avoidance, there are likely to be more following who havent yet learned, and it is THIS about which it is hard to know what to do. (the letting down of tyres was meant as some sort of comic frustration at this, I certainly didn't mean it personally). Is there more aggression in the culture these days? Or am I just getting old? Anyway I think this all goes way deeper than roadcraft. Its raises all sorts of emotions when it happens to you, at a time when you need to be focussing even more on the road cos others around you are more likely to be distracted too. The bazooka zapping thing is just my strategy for maintaining a smile while I try to react dispassionately, which is about all you can do at the time. While this mr bad might be quite nice generally, the behaviour described has to be judged inconsiderate and dangerous, on the evidence given. Whether or not he was provoked by something Stuart might have done to annoy him, my advice would still be the same..he would have been better to smile, react dispassionately with tolerence, humility etc, then zapped him with his imaginary bazooka and rode on. Its all too easy to get drawn in. Blimey..no-one expects the spanish inquisition..our chief weapons are tolerance, humility, awareness, avoidance, dispassionate reactions, smiles and a bl**y great imaginary bazooka. Hope I'm redeemed now. I'll be more careful.