Going for Gold.. Help please!

Mr Gazza · 02-05-2024, 08:40 PM

Found that Cerakote seem to be based in Newmarket, which is not many turns of a wheel from me.
Also found this on their website which is a mix of 4 Cerakote colours, but not sure if the black is just for the ring?
https://www.cerakote.com/project-gal...i-carter-color

Could get a bit salty if I need to buy 3 or 4 tins at $35 a pop!

Nickj · 03-05-2024, 08:18 AM

It would be worth talking to your local guys, they probably have a shelf of stock colours but who knows if they'd sell you a small quantity.
So while 'researching' the how to you have to think

# Is there an alternative paint
These are all in the same family of paints, sprayable with a ceramic content.
Norrels molyresin crops up in searches but it's get very limited coulour ways, no gold and no cheaper. Mostly available in the US and used as a gun finish.
Duracoat, again crops up but again is limited in colours, the only near metallic they do is a burnt bronze that's matt and too dull a colour.
Sprayable expoxy might be an option, wheel paint springs to mind as the colour ranges will cover a gold type finish, Stardust colours do rattle cans of this for about £43 a shot of a gold colour. They also do a liquid metal paint which is cheaper but more a 2k type paint

# Is it feasible to anodise the casing?
First pro is it is a tighter bond to the material than paint will be but the drawback is the colour range you can achieve is much more limited.

I'd go with cerakote or the wheel paint and be quite likely to farm it out to someone who has all the kit and experience to do a good job. Stripping epoxy or cerakote would be a real pain if it didn't come out as expected.

Mr Gazza · 03-05-2024, 09:45 AM

Thanks for taking time to think about this Nick, some good tips there.
I'll investigate those other companies you mention and I'll probably nip into the nearest Cerakote "applicator" when I can, there's a couple within range. Including the HQ.
The people who mixed the Gold for that tank cap are in France and only give a phone number for contact so it could be fun trying to find out their formula.

Stardust (also French) suggested BC71 as being close to Magnesium Gold, but it's not a high temperature paint.

Anodising is out of the equation as I don't want to take the clutch case off and getting an exact shade of Gold is extremely difficult. I've been down that avenue before with forks.
Nasher has professional dealings with anodising companies and admits to them being very frustrating.

Spray gun is no problem as I have a good supply of air now and quite a collection of spray guns!

I might pay Ketts a visit too as they are very helpful, but I don't have a sample of what I want except photos... Actually come to think of it a rear brake master would be a good start.

Mr Gazza · 03-05-2024, 09:50 AM

I'd really like to know why GPColors have pulled Ducati Magnesium Gold engine paint from their listings.
What would be really cool is for someone fluent in Italian to phone them and see if they could weedle a tin or two out of them. Capo would have been good at that.

02-05-2024, 08:40 PM	#1
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,831	Found that Cerakote seem to be based in Newmarket, which is not many turns of a wheel from me. Also found this on their website which is a mix of 4 Cerakote colours, but not sure if the black is just for the ring? https://www.cerakote.com/project-gal...i-carter-color Could get a bit salty if I need to buy 3 or 4 tins at $35 a pop! __________________

03-05-2024, 08:18 AM	#2
Nickj Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forest Of Dean Bike: S2r Posts: 3,195	It would be worth talking to your local guys, they probably have a shelf of stock colours but who knows if they'd sell you a small quantity. So while 'researching' the how to you have to think # Is there an alternative paint These are all in the same family of paints, sprayable with a ceramic content. Norrels molyresin crops up in searches but it's get very limited coulour ways, no gold and no cheaper. Mostly available in the US and used as a gun finish. Duracoat, again crops up but again is limited in colours, the only near metallic they do is a burnt bronze that's matt and too dull a colour. Sprayable expoxy might be an option, wheel paint springs to mind as the colour ranges will cover a gold type finish, Stardust colours do rattle cans of this for about £43 a shot of a gold colour. They also do a liquid metal paint which is cheaper but more a 2k type paint # Is it feasible to anodise the casing? First pro is it is a tighter bond to the material than paint will be but the drawback is the colour range you can achieve is much more limited. I'd go with cerakote or the wheel paint and be quite likely to farm it out to someone who has all the kit and experience to do a good job. Stripping epoxy or cerakote would be a real pain if it didn't come out as expected. __________________ "The final measure of any rider's skill is the inverse ratio of his preferred Traveling Speed to the number of bad scars on his body." Song of the sausage creature

03-05-2024, 09:45 AM	#3
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,831	Thanks for taking time to think about this Nick, some good tips there. I'll investigate those other companies you mention and I'll probably nip into the nearest Cerakote "applicator" when I can, there's a couple within range. Including the HQ. The people who mixed the Gold for that tank cap are in France and only give a phone number for contact so it could be fun trying to find out their formula. Stardust (also French) suggested BC71 as being close to Magnesium Gold, but it's not a high temperature paint. Anodising is out of the equation as I don't want to take the clutch case off and getting an exact shade of Gold is extremely difficult. I've been down that avenue before with forks. Nasher has professional dealings with anodising companies and admits to them being very frustrating. Spray gun is no problem as I have a good supply of air now and quite a collection of spray guns! I might pay Ketts a visit too as they are very helpful, but I don't have a sample of what I want except photos... Actually come to think of it a rear brake master would be a good start. __________________

03-05-2024, 09:50 AM	#4
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,831	I'd really like to know why GPColors have pulled Ducati Magnesium Gold engine paint from their listings. What would be really cool is for someone fluent in Italian to phone them and see if they could weedle a tin or two out of them. Capo would have been good at that. __________________