My Monster 600 Project - Page 2

03-09-2016, 10:40 AM

Sat round the pool on holiday, and these popped up on eBay brand new. I quickly clicked buy it now.

Hopefully these should fix any issues with my carbs.

03-09-2016, 12:12 PM

Good find!

Dennis menace · 06-09-2016, 09:32 AM

You might want to check the jets, needle and needle position. I bought new carbs from Italy off Ebay supposedly for my M600 but the jets and needles were wrong. Cost me £60 for the right ones. The guys at Allens Performance supplied mine.

http://www.allensperformance.co.uk/index.html

08-09-2016, 08:55 PM

Old Vs New.

I haven't had the chance to try and get it running yet, I've put the battery on charge all night, and will try tomorow. I replaced all the fuel hoses while I had the tank off.

24-09-2016, 03:41 PM

I had a bit of spare time today so decided to clean up the carbon sidecovers.

I took them off, and flatted back the lacquer using 800 grit wet 'n' dry, there was a few pints dents (from jeans or leathers I'd imagine) so I went over the panel with a grey scotchbrite and decided to try and fill them with clearcoat.

I mixed up some clearcoat and applied a grip coat, followed by three wet coats. Normally I would only apply two coats, but I was trying to fill the dents so applied a final coat, giving me something nice to flat back and Polish to.

I'll give it a day or so to cure, then will flat back with 1500 paper, followed by by 3000 and 6000 3m trizact discs and Polish up. This is a nice and easy way to spruce up cheaper carbon bits to give the appearance of high quality.

Darren69 · 24-09-2016, 04:37 PM

So can older carbon bits be given this treatment? I've an old carbon headlight cowl that appears to have very little clear coat left on it and is very dull but otherwise appears to be ok.

24-09-2016, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren69

So can older carbon bits be given this treatment? I've an old carbon headlight cowl that appears to have very little clear coat left on it and is very dull but otherwise appears to be ok.

Yeah this can be done with any carbon, you will need to level the remaining clearcoat, if it's peeling or theres any damage you will need to sand that out. I sanded mine with 800 as there was little damage, without seeing the cowl I couldn't say how to prep it properly. You could you coarser, but make sure to finish it with a high grit such as 800 or 1000 grit to ensure you don't see any scratches through your clearcoat.

26-09-2016, 10:44 PM

Apologies for the large images. Imgur won't let me resize them, and I'm uploading on my phone, I will resize them tomorrowith.

With the carbs off the bike once again to send them back (seller sent me a set of 900 carbs by mistake). I decided now would be a good time to remove some dodgy wiring, do some more paintwork and repair a few bits.

The surround for the ignition has had a hole drilled in it by the previous owner, for what Im guessing is for an LED for an alarm system. It's been driving me crazy ever since I got the bike so it has to be sorted.

I sanded the surround down with some 320 grit paper on a block, this is purely to aid adhesion to any filler I use in the later repair stages.

I then applied a coat of plastic adhesion promoter to the inside, to help any bond I use to adhere better.

I used a plastic welding rod to weld the hole up, and reinforced it inside with a small amount of 2k bond (this step probably wasn't 100% necessary, however it will make the repair stronger so won't do any harm).

Once cured, I sanded the top of the surround again, to level the piece of plastic I'd welded in. It levelled nicely, but left a small low spot, I probably could've welded some more plastic in, and got it spot on without any filler, however I opted for the easier method, and will apply a small amount of plastic filler to the top. I'll then block the filler and apply a coat of plastic adhesion promoter, followed by some primer. I'll then sand the primer and apply a texture coat to replicate the factory finish.

I'll try and upload the filler and priming stages tomorrow when I do them.

I'll be using the same method to repair the cowl that sits under the rear seat, as it has had holes drilled in it to fit red Leds.

Zimbo · 01-10-2016, 07:14 AM

Really interesting thread, thanks for sharing the processes and all the detail as you progress, it's a good read!

09-10-2016, 08:30 PM

I managed to get my ignition cover finished this weekend.

I also gave my tail piece a quick clean up. I had some paint issues with it, where there was some oil/silicon contamination on the panel and it reacted with the clearcoat. I'll have to flat it down and re-lacquer it to fill the small silicon pinholes. It's a pain, but these things happen occasionally.

Darkness · 10-10-2016, 05:41 AM

I seem to recall that the indicator units on those tail units are front wing side repeaters from the Ford Escort or Mondeo, so replacements should still be readily available new if yours are looking a bit tired?

Darren69 · 10-10-2016, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkness

I seem to recall that the indicator units on those tail units are front wing side repeaters from the Ford Escort or Mondeo, so replacements should still be readily available new if yours are looking a bit tired?

Of they could be Fiat parts?

Darkness · 10-10-2016, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren69

Of they could be Fiat parts?

They could be, though the contemporary Punto ones look a bit longer and skinnier to me?

What's the chance of finding a '94 Punto with original front wings to compare?

You can still get new ones if you want: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUCATI-MON...EAAOSw-vlVl10K

Dukedesmo · 10-10-2016, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkness

I seem to recall that the indicator units on those tail units are front wing side repeaters from the Ford Escort or Mondeo, so replacements should still be readily available new if yours are looking a bit tired?

Maybe compatible? but the Ducati lights are LED bulb and have built in ballast resistors. I'm not aware that any cars of that age would have used LED bulbs.

Darkness · 10-10-2016, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dukedesmo

Maybe compatible? but the Ducati lights are LED bulb and have built in ballast resistors. I'm not aware that any cars of that age would have used LED bulbs.

Why do you think it has LEDs?

The original bulbs on the m600 weren't LED:
http://www.stein-dinse.biz/images/pr.../800036726.jpg

And I don't think many performance parts were using LEDs twenty odd years ago either.

If it's got LEDs in now, it's either a more recent version of the 90's Ducati Performance tea tray, or it's already had the indicators changed on it?

24-09-2016, 04:37 PM	#21
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,025	So can older carbon bits be given this treatment? I've an old carbon headlight cowl that appears to have very little clear coat left on it and is very dull but otherwise appears to be ok. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

26-09-2016, 10:44 PM	#23
Stephenniall Guest Posts: n/a	Apologies for the large images. Imgur won't let me resize them, and I'm uploading on my phone, I will resize them tomorrowith. With the carbs off the bike once again to send them back (seller sent me a set of 900 carbs by mistake). I decided now would be a good time to remove some dodgy wiring, do some more paintwork and repair a few bits. The surround for the ignition has had a hole drilled in it by the previous owner, for what Im guessing is for an LED for an alarm system. It's been driving me crazy ever since I got the bike so it has to be sorted. I sanded the surround down with some 320 grit paper on a block, this is purely to aid adhesion to any filler I use in the later repair stages. I then applied a coat of plastic adhesion promoter to the inside, to help any bond I use to adhere better. I used a plastic welding rod to weld the hole up, and reinforced it inside with a small amount of 2k bond (this step probably wasn't 100% necessary, however it will make the repair stronger so won't do any harm). Once cured, I sanded the top of the surround again, to level the piece of plastic I'd welded in. It levelled nicely, but left a small low spot, I probably could've welded some more plastic in, and got it spot on without any filler, however I opted for the easier method, and will apply a small amount of plastic filler to the top. I'll then block the filler and apply a coat of plastic adhesion promoter, followed by some primer. I'll then sand the primer and apply a texture coat to replicate the factory finish. I'll try and upload the filler and priming stages tomorrow when I do them. I'll be using the same method to repair the cowl that sits under the rear seat, as it has had holes drilled in it to fit red Leds. Last edited by Stephenniall; 26-09-2016 at 10:48 PM..

10-10-2016, 05:41 AM	#26
Darkness . Join Date: May 2007 Location: Stockbridge Bike: M900 Posts: 1,984	I seem to recall that the indicator units on those tail units are front wing side repeaters from the Ford Escort or Mondeo, so replacements should still be readily available new if yours are looking a bit tired? __________________ Original and Best since 1993

03-09-2016, 10:40 AM	#16
Stephenniall Guest Posts: n/a	Sat round the pool on holiday, and these popped up on eBay brand new. I quickly clicked buy it now. Hopefully these should fix any issues with my carbs.

03-09-2016, 12:12 PM	#17
RossObey01 Guest Posts: n/a	Good find!

06-09-2016, 09:32 AM	#18
Dennis menace Registered User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Farnsfield Bike: Other Ducati Posts: 300	You might want to check the jets, needle and needle position. I bought new carbs from Italy off Ebay supposedly for my M600 but the jets and needles were wrong. Cost me £60 for the right ones. The guys at Allens Performance supplied mine. http://www.allensperformance.co.uk/index.html

08-09-2016, 08:55 PM	#19
Stephenniall Guest Posts: n/a	Old Vs New. I haven't had the chance to try and get it running yet, I've put the battery on charge all night, and will try tomorow. I replaced all the fuel hoses while I had the tank off.

24-09-2016, 03:41 PM	#20
Stephenniall Guest Posts: n/a	I had a bit of spare time today so decided to clean up the carbon sidecovers. I took them off, and flatted back the lacquer using 800 grit wet 'n' dry, there was a few pints dents (from jeans or leathers I'd imagine) so I went over the panel with a grey scotchbrite and decided to try and fill them with clearcoat. I mixed up some clearcoat and applied a grip coat, followed by three wet coats. Normally I would only apply two coats, but I was trying to fill the dents so applied a final coat, giving me something nice to flat back and Polish to. I'll give it a day or so to cure, then will flat back with 1500 paper, followed by by 3000 and 6000 3m trizact discs and Polish up. This is a nice and easy way to spruce up cheaper carbon bits to give the appearance of high quality.

01-10-2016, 07:14 AM	#24
Zimbo Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Stonehouse, Glos Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,079	Really interesting thread, thanks for sharing the processes and all the detail as you progress, it's a good read!

09-10-2016, 08:30 PM	#25
Stephenniall Guest Posts: n/a	I managed to get my ignition cover finished this weekend. I also gave my tail piece a quick clean up. I had some paint issues with it, where there was some oil/silicon contamination on the panel and it reacted with the clearcoat. I'll have to flat it down and re-lacquer it to fill the small silicon pinholes. It's a pain, but these things happen occasionally.