A bit different

slob · 08-04-2018, 05:06 PM

Following on form the discussion about long swingarms and fat tyres

not sure what I think of this
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/d...ery-63446.html

apologies of it's been posted before, I don't think it has though

Kato · 08-04-2018, 05:32 PM

Like everything except for the seat.....

350TSS · 08-04-2018, 09:23 PM

Pictures do not show how the side plates join to the steering head which is critical to how the thing will function as motorcycle rather than an ornament, tank looks as though he could have done with an English wheel

Mossleymonster · 08-04-2018, 09:42 PM

I'm really interested in the Diavel wheel in the back of the Monster, don't want the longer swingarm or anything else lol.. Just a fat arsed Monster.

damien666 · 08-04-2018, 10:34 PM

Most of it’s nice. The exhaust is not!

And it’s got horns!

Darren69 · 09-04-2018, 08:42 AM

The tank and seat don't look right, should maybe retain original shape or something close to it. Exhaust also seems wrong in any configuration that he tried.

utopia · 09-04-2018, 11:18 AM

Massive case of style over substance.
Its trying very hard to look cool ... and therefore it fails, for that very reason.
Folk probably sn1gger when he isn't looking (look at the final pic where its being ridden).
Worse still, I can see no engineering advantage whatsoever for the frame design.
In fact, I seriously worry that there is a significant engineering disadvantage.

What is the point of that massive front structure around the oil cooler ?

Fat tyre ruins the handling and throws extra road crap and water through the holes in the stupid seat .... that's cool, eh ?
Pointlessly "stealth" tank.
Filters to mimic horns ... come on, grow up.

One of the things that I love most about the std monster design is that its style arises from and is inherent in the engineering itself.
Doing it the other way round, you're just painting pretty pictures.

Nasher · 09-04-2018, 11:34 AM

It's interesting, and I can appreciate the skill and work involved as an exercise and a piece of art, but it's not my cup of tea.
Definitely more form than function

Nasher

Darren69 · 09-04-2018, 07:07 PM

No engineering advantage, just engineering for the sake of it really and I think that sums it up quite well. As an exercise in engineering it is a pretty good and cool alternative to the standard bike. Bimota were doing all kinds of that kind of thing at the same time as the factory and most of their efforts were aesthetically better but practically worse because of over engineering. Their bespoke frames made it harder to service the engine and in some cases the engine had to be removed from the bike to be serviced.

08-04-2018, 05:06 PM	#1
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,713	A bit different Following on form the discussion about long swingarms and fat tyres not sure what I think of this https://www.autoevolution.com/news/d...ery-63446.html apologies of it's been posted before, I don't think it has though

08-04-2018, 05:32 PM	#2
Kato Dismantled Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: East Molesey Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,228	Like everything except for the seat..... __________________ "Political correctness is just intellectual colonialism and psychological fascism for the creation of thought crime"

08-04-2018, 09:42 PM	#4
Mossleymonster Registered User Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Barnsley Bike: M1100s Posts: 238	I'm really interested in the Diavel wheel in the back of the Monster, don't want the longer swingarm or anything else lol.. Just a fat arsed Monster. __________________ Always remember. Your home is at risk if you set fire to it.

09-04-2018, 08:42 AM	#6
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,025	The tank and seat don't look right, should maybe retain original shape or something close to it. Exhaust also seems wrong in any configuration that he tried. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

09-04-2018, 11:34 AM	#8
Nasher Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Portsmouth Bike: M900 Posts: 1,510	It's interesting, and I can appreciate the skill and work involved as an exercise and a piece of art, but it's not my cup of tea. Definitely more form than function Nasher __________________ Heaven doesn't want me, and Hell is afraid I'll take over.

08-04-2018, 09:23 PM	#3
350TSS Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Shipbourne Bike: M900 Posts: 1,419	Pictures do not show how the side plates join to the steering head which is critical to how the thing will function as motorcycle rather than an ornament, tank looks as though he could have done with an English wheel

08-04-2018, 10:34 PM	#5
damien666 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Leeds, West-Yorks Bike: S4Rs Posts: 497	Most of it’s nice. The exhaust is not! And it’s got horns!

09-04-2018, 11:18 AM	#7
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	Massive case of style over substance. Its trying very hard to look cool ... and therefore it fails, for that very reason. Folk probably sn1gger when he isn't looking (look at the final pic where its being ridden). Worse still, I can see no engineering advantage whatsoever for the frame design. In fact, I seriously worry that there is a significant engineering disadvantage. What is the point of that massive front structure around the oil cooler ? Fat tyre ruins the handling and throws extra road crap and water through the holes in the stupid seat .... that's cool, eh ? Pointlessly "stealth" tank. Filters to mimic horns ... come on, grow up. One of the things that I love most about the std monster design is that its style arises from and is inherent in the engineering itself. Doing it the other way round, you're just painting pretty pictures.

09-04-2018, 07:07 PM	#9
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,025	No engineering advantage, just engineering for the sake of it really and I think that sums it up quite well. As an exercise in engineering it is a pretty good and cool alternative to the standard bike. Bimota were doing all kinds of that kind of thing at the same time as the factory and most of their efforts were aesthetically better but practically worse because of over engineering. Their bespoke frames made it harder to service the engine and in some cases the engine had to be removed from the bike to be serviced. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage