Back with a M900 series I - Page 14

Flip · 15-10-2015, 09:17 PM

Albie, are you sure you shouldn't have one like this for the clutch case?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3714505459...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

My '97 bike did before it peeled off (I still have it in a folder) as I think Agip was recommended until TPG took over and they struck a deal with Shell.

Also did you ever contact Motostars about the quality of the decal they sent?
The one I received is spot on exactly the same as the original on my seat cowl so presume yours may have been a dodgy one they missed(?). I wouldn't have said about them if I thought they were crap.

Albie · 15-10-2015, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flip

Albie, are you sure you shouldn't have one like this for the clutch case?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3714505459...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

My '97 bike did before it peeled off (I still have it in a folder) as I think Agip was recommended until TPG took over and they struck a deal with Shell.

Also did you ever contact Motostars about the quality of the decal they sent?
The one I received is spot on exactly the same as the original on my seat cowl so presume yours may have been a dodgy one they missed(?). I wouldn't have said about them if I thought they were crap.

No I never realised that may have been an Agip too. Not stuck on yet anyhow. Bit pricey that one so will ask Image works to sort. I have used them in the past so I know they are good and the Moto Rapido race team etc use them. No I didn't reply to Moto Stars as generally couldn't be bothered and stuck the decal on the spare cowl and sold on. Its no ones fault but I cannot remember what the advert said as to description. I have no doubt they make a good range of correct decals but been burnt now and Image can now have my pennies. They always state if you want something send them the image and they will create.
The things I learn every week is fascinating and all comments much appreciated. At the end of this I have no doubt I will still be unhappy with the frame I reckon. Not because of the colour but possibly its more later. I can live with that though for a while at least.

Albie · 17-10-2015, 01:23 PM

Some days luck is down. Some days luck is with you. I spotted an early tank on Ebay start bid £30. Looked tidy albeit 2 not hefty dents but dents needing some work to pull out shall we say. All underneath clean and tidy and with the seamed front.

I will say the last few moments no one had bid so whacked on a final bid of £136 because I wanted it whatever.

Won it for £43.30 or £30 plus the postage.

Happy..... Very.

It can sit and wait to be done at my leisure when I can afford the respray.

Mr Gazza · 17-10-2015, 01:48 PM

Bargain...You lucky chap!...

Why the cable ties though?....Sender nut split?

Albie · 17-10-2015, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

Bargain...You lucky chap!...

Why the cable ties though?....Sender nut split?

Maybe. I did wonder that. Maybe the slightly later one fits off mine I need to check. Could have been a whole lot pricier and bear in mind decals and paint etc. The hinge area looks ok but I am thinking about getting Big Oz to weld it prior to paint to make sure.

All this for that little front area.

Mr Gazza · 17-10-2015, 02:24 PM

Well worth brazing round the hinge pad....Crazy not too before painting.

Be good to have a photo of the "little front area" for reference on this thread...

Albie · 17-10-2015, 02:59 PM

In case you were being serious and not wanting a small frontal pic lol

Here is the early tank with a seam I think up to 97 ?

And possibly after 97 until plastic tanks or I.E's . Its got a smooth front area and this is mine fitted to my bike. And just fitted that Agip decal too.

Mr Gazza · 17-10-2015, 03:43 PM

Ah! Gotcha now.

I honestly didn't know what this seam thing was, and what it looked like. Now I do...Thank you.

Thank you also for not posting a full frontal....

....

Pedro · 17-10-2015, 05:35 PM

That tank is still different to mine! I have three pipes where that has two!

Albie · 17-10-2015, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro

That tank is still different to mine! I have three pipes where that has two!

I don't mind underneath. Hey its ducati lol. It's a 95. I will get BigOz to add one on.

17-10-2015, 08:06 PM

You seem to be collecting more than one monster with all these parts!
My 1993 m900 is sorted and clean and would be used on nice days like today but a recent project has taken my focus:

All the fairings are being slowly refurbed so I am running with a fly screen for now.

Albie · 18-10-2015, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrD

You seem to be collecting more than one monster with all these parts!
My 1993 m900 is sorted and clean and would be used on nice days like today but a recent project has taken my focus:

All the fairings are being slowly refurbed so I am running with a fly screen for now.

That my friend is the 1st Italian bike I ever fell in love with. A 16yr old going to college on a fs1e seeing a 1978 T reg Moto Guzzi Le Mans in red. Oh please take the image away....

Maybe Crust will let me have his project.

Albie · 23-10-2015, 09:38 PM

This may help others.

1993 Ducati Monster 900 Torque Settings
Spark Plugs 29 nm
Engine Oil Drain plug 40-44nm
Steering Head nut 40-45nm
Top Yoke pinch bolts
8mm 20-25nm
10mm 35-38nm
Engine Mount bolts 40-45nm
Clutch Housing bolts 30-34nm
Clutch Hose Union bolt 16-20nm
Primary Drive nut 110-120nm
Crankcase bolts
6mm 8-10nm
8mm 23-25nm
Exhaust Flange nuts 23-25nm
Handlebar Clamp bolts 22-27nm
Pickup Coil screws 4-6nm
Rear Brake Pedal Pivot bolt 23-25nm
Gearchange Pivot bolt 23-25nm
Damper Rod bolts 20nm
Damper Rod locknut 20nm
Fork Top bolts ( Showa ) 35nm
Rear Shock Absorber
Upper 39-44nm
Lower 34-37nm
Rear Suspension Linkage
Linkage to frame 34-37nm
Linkage onto Linkage fork bolt 34-37nm
Balljoint locknut to Linkage Fork 34-37nm
Linkage Fork to Swingarm bolt 22-24nm
Swingarm Pivot Pinch bolts 34-37nm
Front Brake Caliper Mount bolts 35-38nm
Rear Brake Caliper Mount bolts 23-25nm
Disc Mounting bolts 26nm
Brake Hose Banjo bolts 17-20nm
Front Axle bolt 70-76nm
Front Axle bolt clamps 20-25nm
Rear Axle nuts 70-76nm
Oil Pressure Switch 18-20nm
Low Fuel Sensor nut 32-35nm
Starter Motor bolts 8-10nm

23-10-2015, 10:06 PM

You know it is sometimes disadvantageous to follow the torque.
Many of those settings are quite light.
For those, I go with ring spanner hand-tight, quarter turn and check with torque wrench - usually right
It is so easy with poor threads/old bolts to overtighten with the torque wrench as it does not give you the feedback of the rigid and light spanner.
....just saying....

Albie · 23-10-2015, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrD

You know it is sometimes disadvantageous to follow the torque.
Many of those settings are quite light.
For those, I go with ring spanner hand-tight, quarter turn and check with torque wrench - usually right
It is so easy with poor threads/old bolts to overtighten with the torque wrench as it does not give you the feedback of the rigid and light spanner.
....just saying....

Do you know your right. I never usually do use one as I only had a real long one for wheel nut on a single sider.
I was reckoning on doing this one right as far as by the book BUT wasn't going to crank up using a long bar. My s4 conversion never had anything more than arm torque.

I went out and got a small torque wrench and was amazed on the price tbh and its a Draper with a certificate of calibration that's pretty good if honest and well within those tolerances.
I posted purely because I have wanted a list in one page not every chapter of the manual and as a guide and I always see peeps asking this and that torque and realise its really an early version.

There were some bolts I tightened by hand and just did a check. On the click or just under so I am happy.

I paid just £22 for this on ebay inc post and is approx. 12" long and handy size to use.

15-10-2015, 09:17 PM	#196
Flip Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beachtown Bike: M900 Posts: 2,188	Albie, are you sure you shouldn't have one like this for the clutch case? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3714505459...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT My '97 bike did before it peeled off (I still have it in a folder) as I think Agip was recommended until TPG took over and they struck a deal with Shell. Also did you ever contact Motostars about the quality of the decal they sent? The one I received is spot on exactly the same as the original on my seat cowl so presume yours may have been a dodgy one they missed(?). I wouldn't have said about them if I thought they were crap. __________________ You're perfect, yes, it's true- But without me you're only you!

17-10-2015, 01:23 PM	#198
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,030	Tank sorted Some days luck is down. Some days luck is with you. I spotted an early tank on Ebay start bid £30. Looked tidy albeit 2 not hefty dents but dents needing some work to pull out shall we say. All underneath clean and tidy and with the seamed front. I will say the last few moments no one had bid so whacked on a final bid of £136 because I wanted it whatever. Won it for £43.30 or £30 plus the postage. Happy..... Very. It can sit and wait to be done at my leisure when I can afford the respray. __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

17-10-2015, 01:48 PM	#199
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,806	Bargain...You lucky chap!... Why the cable ties though?....Sender nut split? __________________

17-10-2015, 02:24 PM	#201
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,806	Well worth brazing round the hinge pad....Crazy not too before painting. Be good to have a photo of the "little front area" for reference on this thread... __________________

17-10-2015, 02:59 PM	#202
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,030	In case you were being serious and not wanting a small frontal pic lol Here is the early tank with a seam I think up to 97 ? And possibly after 97 until plastic tanks or I.E's . Its got a smooth front area and this is mine fitted to my bike. And just fitted that Agip decal too. __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

17-10-2015, 03:43 PM	#203
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,806	Ah! Gotcha now. I honestly didn't know what this seam thing was, and what it looked like. Now I do...Thank you. Thank you also for not posting a full frontal........ __________________

17-10-2015, 05:35 PM	#204
Pedro Ciao, come stai? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 4,157	That tank is still different to mine! I have three pipes where that has two! __________________ M900 - 1993! Monster 1200R!

17-10-2015, 08:06 PM	#206
DrD Guest Posts: n/a	You seem to be collecting more than one monster with all these parts! My 1993 m900 is sorted and clean and would be used on nice days like today but a recent project has taken my focus: All the fairings are being slowly refurbed so I am running with a fly screen for now.

23-10-2015, 09:38 PM	#208
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,030	This may help others. 1993 Ducati Monster 900 Torque Settings Spark Plugs 29 nm Engine Oil Drain plug 40-44nm Steering Head nut 40-45nm Top Yoke pinch bolts 8mm 20-25nm 10mm 35-38nm Engine Mount bolts 40-45nm Clutch Housing bolts 30-34nm Clutch Hose Union bolt 16-20nm Primary Drive nut 110-120nm Crankcase bolts 6mm 8-10nm 8mm 23-25nm Exhaust Flange nuts 23-25nm Handlebar Clamp bolts 22-27nm Pickup Coil screws 4-6nm Rear Brake Pedal Pivot bolt 23-25nm Gearchange Pivot bolt 23-25nm Damper Rod bolts 20nm Damper Rod locknut 20nm Fork Top bolts ( Showa ) 35nm Rear Shock Absorber Upper 39-44nm Lower 34-37nm Rear Suspension Linkage Linkage to frame 34-37nm Linkage onto Linkage fork bolt 34-37nm Balljoint locknut to Linkage Fork 34-37nm Linkage Fork to Swingarm bolt 22-24nm Swingarm Pivot Pinch bolts 34-37nm Front Brake Caliper Mount bolts 35-38nm Rear Brake Caliper Mount bolts 23-25nm Disc Mounting bolts 26nm Brake Hose Banjo bolts 17-20nm Front Axle bolt 70-76nm Front Axle bolt clamps 20-25nm Rear Axle nuts 70-76nm Oil Pressure Switch 18-20nm Low Fuel Sensor nut 32-35nm Starter Motor bolts 8-10nm __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

23-10-2015, 10:06 PM	#209
DrD Guest Posts: n/a	You know it is sometimes disadvantageous to follow the torque. Many of those settings are quite light. For those, I go with ring spanner hand-tight, quarter turn and check with torque wrench - usually right It is so easy with poor threads/old bolts to overtighten with the torque wrench as it does not give you the feedback of the rigid and light spanner. ....just saying....