Stuck wheel nut...

jonzi · 23-04-2017, 08:12 AM

... On a scooter

I have a vespa engine that is out of the bike, with the rear wheel attached.

I need this wheel off, but the thing is stuck.

I have tried a 2 foot breaker bar, plenty of plus gas and an electric impact drill thing, but it just ain't budging.

What else can I do to get it off please?

damien666 · 23-04-2017, 08:51 AM

Normal thread and not left hand?
Rattle guns can vary a lot in torque applied. Can you borrow a snap on/ milwaukee quality one?
Heat if you can get some on the nut without damaging bearings etc. One of those induction coils is ideal ( nutbuster), but your not likely to have one lying around!

Mr Gazza · 23-04-2017, 09:21 AM

Nut splitter?

https://www.cromwell.co.uk/shop/hand...xw&istBid=tztx

Remember that you're not allowed to put it in a wheelie bin. But once you have the tyre off, you can weigh it in.

Doggy · 23-04-2017, 08:06 PM

Put the nut under pressure with the big breaker bar and then wack the nut with a club hammer to "shock" it loose. Had to do this on one of my MV's in the past.

Dirty · 23-04-2017, 11:51 PM

Heat it up then the breaker bar.

Zimbo · 24-04-2017, 06:18 AM

Use a longer breaker bar, it's amazing just how much extra torque you can exert with another foot of leverage! Slip a bit of scaffold tube or similar over your existing breaker bar, or buy / borrow a longer one.

rendo · 24-04-2017, 09:44 AM

I feel you pain Jonzi, i have a spare vespa engine in a similar position.
if like me your problem is because the engine is not mounted to the frame its difficult to stop the engine moving when you apply force to the nut. These hub nuts are not normally a problem because when the engine is in the bike you can counter it by applying the rear brake and keeping the tyre in contact with the ground.

you may need to find some way to counter the force on the nut, if you can somehow stop the hub turning it would help.

jonzi · 24-04-2017, 10:14 AM

I have ordered some PB blaster and an actual impact socket, I am scared the one I am using will shatter and embed metal in my arm every time I try to use it.

I will try again with that, and if that still fails, then ill will chock the wheel against the engine some how.

I read some where about making an F shape with threaded pipe and using that to brace the wheel.

I should have removed it before I stripped the bike. Lesson learnt.

I'l also try to pick up a bit of scaffold bar too.

Cheers all

23-04-2017, 08:12 AM	#1
jonzi Mary Mary Quite Contrary Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Berkhamsted Bike: M796 Posts: 1,398	Stuck wheel nut... ... On a scooter I have a vespa engine that is out of the bike, with the rear wheel attached. I need this wheel off, but the thing is stuck. I have tried a 2 foot breaker bar, plenty of plus gas and an electric impact drill thing, but it just ain't budging. What else can I do to get it off please? __________________ #48

23-04-2017, 09:21 AM	#3
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,815	Nut splitter? https://www.cromwell.co.uk/shop/hand...xw&istBid=tztx Remember that you're not allowed to put it in a wheelie bin. But once you have the tyre off, you can weigh it in. __________________

23-04-2017, 11:51 PM	#5
Dirty Bockloks Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 4,601	Heat it up then the breaker bar. __________________ Wounds heal, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever Beware of eBay

24-04-2017, 10:14 AM	#8
jonzi Mary Mary Quite Contrary Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Berkhamsted Bike: M796 Posts: 1,398	I have ordered some PB blaster and an actual impact socket, I am scared the one I am using will shatter and embed metal in my arm every time I try to use it. I will try again with that, and if that still fails, then ill will chock the wheel against the engine some how. I read some where about making an F shape with threaded pipe and using that to brace the wheel. I should have removed it before I stripped the bike. Lesson learnt. I'l also try to pick up a bit of scaffold bar too. Cheers all __________________ #48

23-04-2017, 08:51 AM	#2
damien666 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Leeds, West-Yorks Bike: S4Rs Posts: 497	Normal thread and not left hand? Rattle guns can vary a lot in torque applied. Can you borrow a snap on/ milwaukee quality one? Heat if you can get some on the nut without damaging bearings etc. One of those induction coils is ideal ( nutbuster), but your not likely to have one lying around!

23-04-2017, 08:06 PM	#4
Doggy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Kent Bike: M796 Posts: 510	Put the nut under pressure with the big breaker bar and then wack the nut with a club hammer to "shock" it loose. Had to do this on one of my MV's in the past.

24-04-2017, 06:18 AM	#6
Zimbo Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Stonehouse, Glos Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,079	Use a longer breaker bar, it's amazing just how much extra torque you can exert with another foot of leverage! Slip a bit of scaffold tube or similar over your existing breaker bar, or buy / borrow a longer one.

24-04-2017, 09:44 AM	#7
rendo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: glasgow Bike: M696 Posts: 75	I feel you pain Jonzi, i have a spare vespa engine in a similar position. if like me your problem is because the engine is not mounted to the frame its difficult to stop the engine moving when you apply force to the nut. These hub nuts are not normally a problem because when the engine is in the bike you can counter it by applying the rear brake and keeping the tyre in contact with the ground. you may need to find some way to counter the force on the nut, if you can somehow stop the hub turning it would help.