M2 riders beware!!!! - Page 2

gary tompkins · 28-02-2009, 02:15 PM

I've seen an un-marked dark blue volvo estate, and black BMW saloon around Dartford

So they are out there

28-02-2009, 02:48 PM

It was a marked Volvo...hard to miss really...except on a sports bike with those sill mirrors!!!
Here is some interesting reading... Fingers crossed for you..

Gatso Speed Cameras
There are over 4,000 fixed Gatso speed cameras currently in use by police forces and local authorities across the UK, accounting for 90% of all fixed speed cameras. The Gatso which uses radar technology, is used for fixed speed cameras, in-car mobile units, on tripods and can even be used from moving vehicles.

Fixed Gatso speed cameras are rear facing. This is so the cameras 'flash' does not blind oncoming motorists. Unfortunately, this also means the cameras are not always viewable until the last second (as pictured above). The cost of installing a Gatso speed camera is approximately £20,000, but can cost as much as £40,000 if located in a rural location, as the system requires a 240v power supply.

The fixed Gatso camera has the ability to take up to 400 pictures. Cameras in that are located in busy areas or are particularly hidden, often only last a few hours before the film runs out, soon recouping the £20,000-£40,000 price tag.

Gatso speed cameras can also identify between cars/vans and HGVs separately. For example, if the speed limit was 60mph for cars/vans and 40mph for HGVs the camera will enforce the two separate limits.

It is common for fixed Gatsos to be positioned so they can be turned around to check both sides of the road - but only one direction at a time.

On the M25 in Berkshire and Surrey Gatso speed cameras have been placed in gantries across the width of the motorway with all four lanes covered simultaneously.

Points and Penalties

Being prosecuted in the UK by a Gatso speed camera can result in a minimum of 3 penalty points and a £60 fine. Fine amounts are currently under review by the government and may increase in near future.

S4R Dude · 28-02-2009, 03:47 PM

NIP has to be served by 14 days. They will however ask you who was riding the bike, don't ignore this request if it arrives after the 14 days, if you do you will be prosecuted for failing to provide this information and then end up with points anyway.

If you are not notified of their intention to prosecute within 14 days (NIP) they can not prosecute. Send a nice letter back to them with details of rider and comment that they were too late with the NIP. Forces rely on people just going with it and accepting the penalty. If they fail to notify in time you can not be done.

01-03-2009, 08:18 AM

Ahh, it's 14 days is it........ That's postmarked isn't it...so you could get it later, say 15-18 days?

28-02-2009, 02:15 PM	#16
gary tompkins 1/2 man - 1/2 pogo-stick Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dartford, Kent Bike: M900ie Posts: 7,241	I've seen an un-marked dark blue volvo estate, and black BMW saloon around Dartford So they are out there __________________ GT Fully paid up member of the S.A.S. (Scottoiler Appreciation Society) 27,000 miles on original chain - and still going strong!

28-02-2009, 02:48 PM	#17
jimbo696 Guest Posts: n/a	It was a marked Volvo...hard to miss really...except on a sports bike with those sill mirrors!!! Here is some interesting reading... Fingers crossed for you.. Gatso Speed Cameras There are over 4,000 fixed Gatso speed cameras currently in use by police forces and local authorities across the UK, accounting for 90% of all fixed speed cameras. The Gatso which uses radar technology, is used for fixed speed cameras, in-car mobile units, on tripods and can even be used from moving vehicles. Fixed Gatso speed cameras are rear facing. This is so the cameras 'flash' does not blind oncoming motorists. Unfortunately, this also means the cameras are not always viewable until the last second (as pictured above). The cost of installing a Gatso speed camera is approximately £20,000, but can cost as much as £40,000 if located in a rural location, as the system requires a 240v power supply. The fixed Gatso camera has the ability to take up to 400 pictures. Cameras in that are located in busy areas or are particularly hidden, often only last a few hours before the film runs out, soon recouping the £20,000-£40,000 price tag. Gatso speed cameras can also identify between cars/vans and HGVs separately. For example, if the speed limit was 60mph for cars/vans and 40mph for HGVs the camera will enforce the two separate limits. It is common for fixed Gatsos to be positioned so they can be turned around to check both sides of the road - but only one direction at a time. On the M25 in Berkshire and Surrey Gatso speed cameras have been placed in gantries across the width of the motorway with all four lanes covered simultaneously. Points and Penalties Being prosecuted in the UK by a Gatso speed camera can result in a minimum of 3 penalty points and a £60 fine. Fine amounts are currently under review by the government and may increase in near future.

28-02-2009, 03:47 PM	#18
S4R Dude Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vidouze Bike: S4r Posts: 138	NIP has to be served by 14 days. They will however ask you who was riding the bike, don't ignore this request if it arrives after the 14 days, if you do you will be prosecuted for failing to provide this information and then end up with points anyway. If you are not notified of their intention to prosecute within 14 days (NIP) they can not prosecute. Send a nice letter back to them with details of rider and comment that they were too late with the NIP. Forces rely on people just going with it and accepting the penalty. If they fail to notify in time you can not be done.

01-03-2009, 08:18 AM	#19
jimbo696 Guest Posts: n/a	Ahh, it's 14 days is it........ That's postmarked isn't it...so you could get it later, say 15-18 days?