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Old 16-04-2010, 01:49 PM   #1
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Monster 1100 gearing

I'm getting used to my new (2009) Monster 1100 and finding it easier at low speeds but have been thinking about changing the front sprocket from 15 teeth to 14 teeth, as many have discussed on this forum.

I made a note of speeds at certain revs in each gear and put a little table together:

With standard final gearing I calculate:

Code:
15/39 Teeth	4000	6000	8500
1st		27	40	57
2nd		37	56	79
3rd		49	73	103
4th		60	90	128
5th		69	103	146
6th		77	115	163
30mph in 2nd gear should be around 3,250 rpm and 20mph around 2,150 rpm.

Dropping to 14 teeth I calculate would give:

Code:
14/39 Teeth	4000	6000	8500
1st		25	37	53
2nd		35	52	74
3rd		45	68	97
4th		56	84	119
5th		64	96	136
6th		72	107	152
30mph in 2nd gear would be around 3,450 rpm and 20mph around 2,300 rpm.

Hardly seems worth the effort!

Geoff

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Old 16-04-2010, 02:49 PM   #2
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Hmmm, I should make this change as I hardly ever get above 3rd.

I imagine that it would feel better than your table suggests - though I've no experience to base that on.
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Old 16-04-2010, 08:38 PM   #3
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I went 2 up on the back and I love it,much better drive from corner to corner and top gear much more usable,plus it wheelies every where which makes me grin:-)
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Old 16-04-2010, 10:22 PM   #4
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41 teeth on the back should give almost the same gearing as 14 on the front (about 2% different).
Code:
15/41 Teeth	4000	6000	8500
1st		25	38	54
2nd		35	53	75
3rd		46	69	98
4th		57	86	122
5th		65	98	139
6th		73	109	155
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Old 16-04-2010, 10:36 PM   #5
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I read that the Monster 1100 rev limiter cuts in around 8,500 rpm.

Does anyone know what the realistic top speed is, if you could hold on long enough? I find it hard to believe it will actually pull a 160 in 6th gear.

Lowering the gearing to 14/37 or 15/41 seems unlikely to loose any top speed as 6th will still be geared for over 150 at 8,500 rpm, and I'm still not sure it will get there. Certainly not with me on it!

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Old 16-04-2010, 10:42 PM   #6
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Not measured the rev limiter as only hit it once.I like the red lights coming on.

No idea what top end is. I reckon 145 on a track of course but 140 more realistic. I like the idea of +2 on the rear as the smaller front makes the radius smaller and chance of wearing swingarm .
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Old 16-04-2010, 11:01 PM   #7
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I would opt for +2 or +3 on the back, as the smaller 14T front can put extra stress on chain due to smaller radius. Going -1 tooth on front is equivalent to +3 on the back, so you might find it a bit buzzy on M-ways. Dropping a tooth on the front's the easy and cheaper option, as saves fitting longer chain needed for bigger rear sprocket.

I dropped final drive ratio on trike by other methods. The 205/40/17 tyres I fitted have 50mm smaller overal diameter than stock 170/60/17 rear wheel. Even using stock 15/39 gearing it had same effect as +2 teeth on rear sprocket, which worked out spot on for me. The trike now accelerates better than a solo 900ie, despite an extra 80kg dead weight. It also easily cruises at 75-85mph fully loaded, and still returns 50+ mpg. It pulls an extra 700 rpm in top gear, and will hit 125mph at redline which is pretty rapid for a trike.
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