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09-11-2016, 01:12 PM | #31 |
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The most likely cause is the three wires from the generator have damaged insulation and are shorting together at higher voltages i.e when the engine is running at higher rpm.
Problem is when they short together the regulator usually gets fried I would start by replacing the 3 yellow wires all the way back to the generator
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09-11-2016, 01:44 PM | #32 |
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The new cheap chinese RR is no good on phase diode is shorted ,, need to get another one not easy here Ducati dealer dont keep spares everything is on back order ,, so stupid .. but honda dealer may have a VFR one ,,,would like a mosfet but that will have to wait till im back in Uk in december
the 3 yellow alternator leads were replaced with heavier guage wire last year ,, stator tests OK ,will get a spare from UK too ,,,, next RR is going to be mounted behind the number plate for better air flow ,,,
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09-11-2016, 01:51 PM | #33 |
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shame shindegren dont supply direct to public they seem difficult to source
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10-11-2016, 07:13 PM | #34 |
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ive been given 3 2nd hand Reg/Recs
1st is off an R1 is seems to be a schindengren unit its marked FH001 the 2nd looks identical to a ducati one 3 yellow wires 2 red 2 green but there is also a black ??? not sure what the black does . 3rd one is of a honda and looks smaller all 3 test out ok on the bench gonna try them tommorow
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10-11-2016, 11:07 PM | #35 |
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The FH001 is a Shindegren mosfet RR
The key specification details are up to 200volt back voltage on the diodes, 35 amp capacity and 14.4 volt stabilised output. It handles less amperage than the FH012 but will handle a higher back voltage.
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11-11-2016, 02:50 AM | #36 | |
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what size fuse do you reckon ????
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11-11-2016, 07:47 AM | #37 |
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OK FH001 is an early unit circa 2003? will be ok with 30amp main fuse, the good news in that its old kit is you deffo wont have one of the chinese fakes that are all over ebay
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11-11-2016, 05:17 PM | #38 |
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The Shindengen Regdid not work on the bike ? tests good on the bencg ????
the reg with extra black wire worked but was giving 17v at battery so thats no good ??? the last on which ws probably off some honda ?? works ok its giving a max voltage of 13,4v at the battery , but the battery is fully charged .. i have mounted it behind rhe number plate with a 5mm aluminiumheatsink backing plate so it gets good air flow rather than under the seat ,, bike has had about 45 mile run is running smooth as silk although the Tacho is still a bit weird at tick over its on 1000rpm but at speed it never seems to go above 4000 rpm ??
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14-11-2016, 06:06 AM | #39 |
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new reg has died it started puming out 18v ??? no good
im gonna have another try with schindengen yamaha one as it may not have been making proper contact as i dont have correst connectors ,, will solder wires on ,,and test might have to write off the whole trip as im back to UK on 6 dec .totally pissed off ...riding my bike is the only thing that makes me happy here ...apart from Jonny Walker and ice ... BUT now THE SHINDENGEN YAMAHA UNIT is working i mounted it back under the seat on my big aluminium heatsink its chaging 13,4v at 1000rpm and at 4-5k its stable at 14,4v max and the Reg does not get red hot either so lets hope it holds out for next 3 weeks ?? other problem is that the tacho shows max revs and rev limiter at 6000rpm should be 9k+ and the engine is hittiing 9k by the sound and the bike is hitting max speeds so the rev counter is under reading at 4000rpm it seem to show about 2700rpm have I damaged it can it be calibrated ???
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14-11-2016, 01:18 PM | #40 |
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That's me fitted the R1 reg/rect and the Triumph leads, what a difference:
Just over 14v at idle and rising steadily as the revs increase. For comparison my new electrex unit was generating just 12.5v at idle. No more Jumpy rev counter either I'm hoping that this is the long term fix I've been looking for. Thanks to Kato for the original post. |
15-11-2016, 05:39 AM | #41 |
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im now getting a solid 14.1v at idle and up to a max 14,4v so used 2003 yamaha FH1 RR sems to be good ,,
but tacho is way off its fine at idle but everywhere else its reading low most of the time sits at 3k ???
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29-10-2017, 03:27 PM | #42 | |
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Switching the whole system seems like a good thing to take care of during the dark months. Plus some of these cables Yes/No? Electrickery really isn't my thing so any advice very welcome!
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30-10-2017, 07:12 AM | #43 |
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The Kato method is plug and play.....keep reading the original post. Order the triumph part and there is no need to splice any cables or carry out any alterations. I swapped my RR a year ago (with the triumph cable) and it's been fine ever since.
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23-11-2017, 08:15 PM | #44 |
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Now installed and working well. Thanks Kato and all other contributors.
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I'd like to keep the charge light working on my 97 M900. Also, has anyone actually tried this conversion on a 2-wire, single phase Monster? Thanks Nasher.
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