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Mr Gazza · 04-04-2020, 04:31 PM

Thank you for the link Buzzer, and for the excellent inspiration.
The kit you linked to will work very nicely indeed on my lovely old planer from an era before stepper motors and DROs.. The holy grail of repeatable settings. I could use 5 on my tenoner or could manage with 4. It will be the envy of chippies for many a country mile..

I had to grit my teeth a bit though.. Somebody is listing their kit as a digital Vernier!!

Darren69 · 03-04-2020, 09:25 AM

"once" I meant

buzzer · 11-04-2020, 09:09 AM

None Ducati this time, but with lockdown still in place I helped a mate out who needed some brake calliper pistons for a Norton Commando he is rebuilding...

I made two out of stainless steel for him as the originals were pitted quite badly... took a while to grind a tool to the correct angles and get the speed of the lathe right to get a nice finish, but I got there in the end...

utopia · 11-04-2020, 09:31 AM

They look tidy.
The hollowing out to such a large diameter must have been a bit of a challenge.

I find that slow speed and heavyish feed works best with stainless.
And a nice sharp tool with cutting oil (applied by brush on my machine).
I also try to avoid taking light skim cuts as the material tends to work harden.
Same goes for titanium, should you ever need to know.

buzzer · 11-04-2020, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by utopia

They look tidy.
The hollowing out to such a large diameter must have been a bit of a challenge.

I find that slow speed and heavyish feed works best with stainless.
And a nice sharp tool with cutting oil (applied by brush on my machine).
I also try to avoid taking light skim cuts as the material tends to work harden.
Same goes for titanium, should you ever need to know.

Thanks... I agree with the heavy cuts... I hate machining stainless... its quite difficult, especially some grades! never done any titanium though...

utopia · 11-04-2020, 10:45 AM

If you do fancy a go at titanium, don't be scared of it.
Its not as bad as you might think, as long as you use very slow speeds and keep a really sharp tool with plenty of cutting oil on it.
Moderately heavy feeds too .. at least not so light as to give the tool any chance to rub.
I use ordinary HSS tools with no problem, but they must be sharp.

buzzer · 10-05-2020, 09:43 AM

Been a while since I updated....early May, lockdown continues, still can’t ride, it’s very frustrating to have bikes on the drive and not ride them!!

done a few more jobs like programme the ignition advance to get a steady tick over, and importantly retard the ignition at cranking speed to give the starter motor an easier time.

Also balanced the carbs. for years I used a mercury gauge for this but a mate borrowed them and broke it! so I bought a set of gauges, but noticed I could get it closer by ear! so I checked the gauges by connecting them to a single vacuum source and found they were all reading differently! hence the single gauge with 5 valves. the 5th valve provides damping to the gauge. I have found you can get a perfect tick over with this method.

lets hope we can ride soon!

10-05-2020, 10:17 AM

Great photos Tony, see you are getting into the spirit of posting,just the one Wheely bin

Luddite · 10-05-2020, 10:36 AM

Nice to have a V6 on the drive!

I do like that orange with the grey/silver - puts me in mind of Neil Hodgson's GSE Ducati (and Laverda Jotas!).

buzzer · 10-05-2020, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Luddite

Nice to have a V6 on the drive!

I do like that orange with the grey/silver - puts me in mind of Neil Hodgson's GSE Ducati (and Laverda Jotas!).

Yes, I have always liked the orange and silver... its becoming a signature colour scheme

I had a Jota for almost 30 years! I did the Suzuki a few years ago...

the car is not the V6 model...its an SLK 55 AMG with the 5.4 V8 engine

with all that power in a small car its epic

utopia · 16-05-2020, 11:11 AM

That 500cc Suzuki has got me twitching.
I'm not the sort of person who wants lots of bikes in the garage but something just like that has been on my wishlist as a third bike alongside my monster and my thumper for years.
I grew up on 2 strokes.
Is that the std frame with a bracing piece at the top/rear of the loop ?

As for the orange, its a colour that seems to have come my way over the years ...
I had a Laverda SFC many years ago. They were all orange I believe.
My monster was originally that colour too, as it had a paintjob in tribute to Troy Bayliss' 1999 BSB winning bike. In the end that annoyed me though, cos it said INS on the tank instead of Ducati. Eventually I dinged the tank in a sidestand-related incident and took the opportunity to change to the current blue.

buzzer · 17-05-2020, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankenDesmo

Is that a GT500? Very nice!

yes its a GT500

Quote:

Originally Posted by utopia

That 500cc Suzuki has got me twitching.
I'm not the sort of person who wants lots of bikes in the garage but something just like that has been on my wishlist as a third bike alongside my monster and my thumper for years.
I grew up on 2 strokes.
Is that the std frame with a bracing piece at the top/rear of the loop ?

As for the orange, its a colour that seems to have come my way over the years ...
I had a Laverda SFC many years ago. They were all orange I believe.
My monster was originally that colour too, as it had a paintjob in tribute to Troy Bayliss' 1999 BSB winning bike. In the end that annoyed me though, cos it said INS on the tank instead of Ducati. Eventually I dinged the tank in a sidestand-related incident and took the opportunity to change to the current blue.

I added the frame bracing as it didn't look right as an open frame... As an aside, I have known the bike for MANY years... back in the 70's I went with my mate when he bought it... he rode it for around 5 years and then took it apart to paint the frame... and there it stayed in pieces until I bought it in 2017! It was in terrible condition, and just not economically wort restoring, hence the cafe racer. Mechanically it was pretty good though and had done less than 5000 mile! here is the story of its build...

https://jtccc.wordpress.com/our-moto...00-cafe-racer/

buzzer · 23-05-2020, 04:13 PM

Middle of may and lockdown has eased a little and I have been out doing a few miles... It runs REALLY well on the carbs! the throttle response is amazing and it feels very crisp and lively! made a few adjustments to the timing at low RPM, but the jetting feels OK, and a plug chop confirmed its not far out... just need to put a few miles on it now... its VERY loud though!

24-05-2020, 04:30 AM

Looks fantastic buzzer, love the pics too.

Luddite · 24-05-2020, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Moco1961

Looks fantastic buzzer, love the pics too.

Absolutely! You should bring out a calendar.

04-04-2020, 04:31 PM	#1
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,834	Thank you for the link Buzzer, and for the excellent inspiration. The kit you linked to will work very nicely indeed on my lovely old planer from an era before stepper motors and DROs.. The holy grail of repeatable settings. I could use 5 on my tenoner or could manage with 4. It will be the envy of chippies for many a country mile.. I had to grit my teeth a bit though.. Somebody is listing their kit as a digital Vernier!! __________________ Last edited by Mr Gazza; 04-04-2020 at 04:33 PM..

03-04-2020, 09:25 AM	#2
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,026	"once" I meant __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

11-04-2020, 09:09 AM	#3
buzzer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Wolverhampton Bike: M900 Posts: 392	None Ducati this time, but with lockdown still in place I helped a mate out who needed some brake calliper pistons for a Norton Commando he is rebuilding... I made two out of stainless steel for him as the originals were pitted quite badly... took a while to grind a tool to the correct angles and get the speed of the lathe right to get a nice finish, but I got there in the end...

11-04-2020, 09:31 AM	#4
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	They look tidy. The hollowing out to such a large diameter must have been a bit of a challenge. I find that slow speed and heavyish feed works best with stainless. And a nice sharp tool with cutting oil (applied by brush on my machine). I also try to avoid taking light skim cuts as the material tends to work harden. Same goes for titanium, should you ever need to know.

11-04-2020, 10:45 AM	#6
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	If you do fancy a go at titanium, don't be scared of it. Its not as bad as you might think, as long as you use very slow speeds and keep a really sharp tool with plenty of cutting oil on it. Moderately heavy feeds too .. at least not so light as to give the tool any chance to rub. I use ordinary HSS tools with no problem, but they must be sharp.

10-05-2020, 09:43 AM	#7
buzzer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Wolverhampton Bike: M900 Posts: 392	Been a while since I updated....early May, lockdown continues, still can’t ride, it’s very frustrating to have bikes on the drive and not ride them!! done a few more jobs like programme the ignition advance to get a steady tick over, and importantly retard the ignition at cranking speed to give the starter motor an easier time. Also balanced the carbs. for years I used a mercury gauge for this but a mate borrowed them and broke it! so I bought a set of gauges, but noticed I could get it closer by ear! so I checked the gauges by connecting them to a single vacuum source and found they were all reading differently! hence the single gauge with 5 valves. the 5th valve provides damping to the gauge. I have found you can get a perfect tick over with this method. lets hope we can ride soon!

10-05-2020, 10:17 AM	#8
Moco1961 Guest Posts: n/a	Great photos Tony, see you are getting into the spirit of posting,just the one Wheely bin

10-05-2020, 10:36 AM	#9
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	Nice to have a V6 on the drive! I do like that orange with the grey/silver - puts me in mind of Neil Hodgson's GSE Ducati (and Laverda Jotas!).

16-05-2020, 11:11 AM	#11
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	That 500cc Suzuki has got me twitching. I'm not the sort of person who wants lots of bikes in the garage but something just like that has been on my wishlist as a third bike alongside my monster and my thumper for years. I grew up on 2 strokes. Is that the std frame with a bracing piece at the top/rear of the loop ? As for the orange, its a colour that seems to have come my way over the years ... I had a Laverda SFC many years ago. They were all orange I believe. My monster was originally that colour too, as it had a paintjob in tribute to Troy Bayliss' 1999 BSB winning bike. In the end that annoyed me though, cos it said INS on the tank instead of Ducati. Eventually I dinged the tank in a sidestand-related incident and took the opportunity to change to the current blue.

23-05-2020, 04:13 PM	#13
buzzer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Wolverhampton Bike: M900 Posts: 392	Middle of may and lockdown has eased a little and I have been out doing a few miles... It runs REALLY well on the carbs! the throttle response is amazing and it feels very crisp and lively! made a few adjustments to the timing at low RPM, but the jetting feels OK, and a plug chop confirmed its not far out... just need to put a few miles on it now... its VERY loud though!

24-05-2020, 04:30 AM	#14
Moco1961 Guest Posts: n/a	Looks fantastic buzzer, love the pics too.