Rear Shocks

[Jez900ie]

Originally Posted by rac3r

Looks wise the Nitron shock looks better. I've actually found them both at almost the same price!

Shame that the shock doesn't have any 'Ohlins gold' like the forks

Ohlins DU046 with remote preload includes maximum gold - just £998

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I'm going for the poor man spec without the adjuster, which looks pretty much the same as the stock Sachs shock!

@blah blah yep that's what I've gathered from everything I've read lol

Ohlins do a new Blackline range now, the shock is entirely black...as in no other colour on it at all!

[Jez900ie]

Originally Posted by rac3r

I'm going for the poor man spec without the adjuster, which looks pretty much the same as the stock Sachs shock!

Haven't seen them yet. I'd never pay an extra £100 unless I got the goldiness!

[Flip]

Originally Posted by Blah blah

The forks on the S2r800 are pretty special / unique to the model and all of the research I did suggested that the simplest way to improve them was to put them in the corner and replace them with something else.

In that case, then yes I’d agree, as that is a very similar situation that owners of Marzocchi equipped early bikes are/were in.

Unless of course, rather than put then in a corner you give them to Maxton for a couple of weeks and then they will rip the original insides out, machine the fork bottoms where required and fit them with their very excellent cartridge conversions and post you back a pair forks that will work in a way the originals never could.

As for the rear shock, you also have to remember that the likes of Öhlins have to subsidise their Moto GP, WSB and BSB commitments by selling ‘a product’ to the general public.

[Blah blah]

Originally Posted by Flip

...you give them to Maxton for a couple of weeks and then they will rip the original insides out, machine the fork bottoms where required and fit them with their very excellent cartridge conversions and post you back a pair forks that will work in a way the originals never could.

True but then...

Originally Posted by Jez900ie

...Maxton Fork Conversion (with cartridges SD25) £830

I'm not knocking it, it just seems like a lot for what it is when there are other options available

[Flip]

Originally Posted by Blah blah

True but then...

I'm not knocking it, it just seems like a lot for what it is when there are other options available

Originally Posted by Blah blah

True but then...

I'm not knocking it, it just seems like a lot for what it is when there are other options available

Again, I agree with you but I think perhaps we’ve all got a little confused.

In both my Monster and my race bike I went for Maxton’s GP20 cartridge conversion which they fit in instances where either the original is a sealed unit or of a very basic design.

https://www.maxtonsuspension.co.uk/files/gp20.htm

I think the price that Jez quoted there was for Maxton’s multi adjustable replacement cartridges which probably aren’t suitable for the S2R.

I also think to be honest, that because rac3r is looking for somewhere to take the bike and have them do everything it’s going to be a tough call to come up with an economical complete service that is going give the kind of results a pure suspension specialist can achieve when they given just the forks to work on as is the case for most of them.

[Jez900ie]

Originally Posted by Flip

Again, I agree with you but I think perhaps we’ve all got a little confused.

In both my Monster and my race bike I went for Maxton’s GP20 cartridge conversion which they fit in instances where either the original is a sealed unit or of a very basic design.

https://www.maxtonsuspension.co.uk/files/gp20.htm

I think the price that Jez quoted there was for Maxton’s multi adjustable replacement cartridges which probably aren’t suitable for the S2R.

I also think to be honest, that because rac3r is looking for somewhere to take the bike and have them do everything it’s going to be a tough call to come up with an economical complete service that is going give the kind of results a pure suspension specialist can achieve when they given just the forks to work on as is the case for most of them.

Agreed.

The more you look into a "suspension upgrade", the more questions come up, almost as fast as the prices do. Its really not straight forward at all.

I've come to the following conclusion (at the momment!)
Everything twenty years newer is works far better
The amount I spend will likely reflect the improvement -provided I use a reputable supplier.

Part of me thinks I won't be able to make the most of an all out upgrade so at the moment I'm thinking shock first and then probably the Andreani cartridge kit. Then I can ride over to Harris Performance and have them set it all up for me (After someone has fitted it because they don't do fitting )

Like this https://www.omniaracing.net/en/andre...0-p-19744.html

[Blah blah]

I think that we're all agreed then, a suspension upgrade is worth it.

Now the question is, how much do you want to spend???

MCT seem to do a ride in ride out service if that's what you're looking for, might be a bit more of a distance but if they can fit it and set it up in a day... I'm sure there are other places as well

And all this looking at suspension again has got me thinking about swapping my ohlins shock for something else, best not tell the Minister for War and Finance though, she'll not be happy...

[Jez900ie]

Originally Posted by rac3r

Part of me thinks I won't be able to make the most of an all out upgrade so at the moment I'm thinking shock first and then probably the Andreani cartridge kit. Then I can ride over to Harris Performance and have them set it all up for me (After someone has fitted it because they don't do fitting )

Like this https://www.omniaracing.net/en/andre...0-p-19744.html

Those Andreani look good. There's apparently a fair amount of work required to cut the shrouds etc to fit them and its not reversible. They are the ones I was quoted £870 inc ride in/ out fitting.

[Darren69]

I would look at replacing the s2 forks/calipers and disks with S4/S4R or ST4/S items first of all because they are better quality and cheaper and give a bit more adjustment although not ideal they are a little bit better than what you have currently and the brakes will be much better too. So you may not need to pay 800 quid for fork upgrades and as a bonus you get better stoppers too.

The Ohlins DU046 is without doubt a great quality upgrade which I have done to mine BUT with the titanium linkages and fixings it has the bling factor BUT the standard Ohlins that I bought is either sprung for a very light rider or mine has been re-sprung as such. I got a deal from an ex DD racer which had done 2 seasons DD races and it is really nice condition and it is noticeably better than the standard one' and the hydraulic preload adjuster was a god send since it seemed quite a bit undersrprung for me but now that no longer works its too soft so I am stuck with an expensive re-build for it. the Nitron looks to be good value and the pre-load adjuster is 150 extra so I would ask yourself if you need it? If you do pillion rides or luggage its a no brainer but if you don't then save yourself £150.

[Darren69]

Oh, and if you do replace the shock put an aftermarket SBK ride height adjuster in the mix too. Its a bit longer than standard, has better adjustment and will give you better handling as your original one is too short and will probably be seized and useless anyway.

I've already done the brake upgrade. I'll start with the rear and have think over the front! Most probably Nitron shock I'll go for, don't need the remote adjuster

Hyperpro have suggested for my bike and weight their Streetbox option which consists of a rear shock, fork springs and oil for about €600