Neutral switch gremlins .. and .. The Sidestand Diode Mod.

utopia · 22-05-2019, 12:41 AM

Apart from being an interesting little tale about nothing much, there is another angle here.
That is, that the diode was not leaking and that the diode mod itself is back to a clean bill of health, in my opinion.
In fact, my initial plan had been to replace the diode with a pukka sidestand bypass kit from Electraeon, which I have.
But, on closer inspection, that kit appears to be exactly the same in principle, just with a load of extra wiring and superseal connectors to make fitment straightforward.
At least, I think its the same. The wiring logic is but the diode it contains is covered in shrinktube so I haven't actually seen it yet .. but I will uncover it and report back shortly.
Not sure whether these kits are still available .. I picked mine up secondhand on ebay.
My setup is neater anyway, because rather than running a wire all the way from the neutral switch to the sidestand switch on the other side of the bike, mine picks up the same wire where it enters the sidestand relay .. which only requires 8 inches of single wire and one single bullet connector ... plus a bit of splicing.
The whole thing is superneat and simple ..you'd struggle to spot that its there at all.
And the harness still comes apart for maintenance.

Once I've stripped out the diode in the Electraeon kit I will post more details of how to do the mod.
I will also be able to confirm the spec of the diode by comparison of the Electraeon one with that supplied by "Xenocide".

Incidentally, these diodes literally cost just a few pence.

The above refers to an original type monster (M750 to be exact, and developed initially on the 900Sie that Gazza now owns) but the logic should/might transfer.

Oh, and for those that don't know, I speak as one who had earlier bridged the sidestand wires, leaving the bike in the dangerous condition of being startable on the sidestand whether it was in neutral or not.
One forgetful evening, that became the reason that my bike is now blue ... the orange tank bit the dust (well, a lampost actually) when I thumbed the button in gear and the bike leapt off the stand.
So, I really really like this mod.
I also like the blue, as it happens.

Luddite · 08-07-2019, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utopia

...but the diode it contains is covered in shrinktube so I haven't actually seen it yet .. but I will uncover it and report back shortly.

...Once I've stripped out the diode in the Electraeon kit I will post more details of how to do the mod.

I will also be able to confirm the spec of the diode by comparison of the Electraeon one with that supplied by "Xenocide".

Just to add to this, on page 138, issue 106 of Practical Sportsbikes magazine, (in the shops 10 July), there is a detailed five-step guide with photos of how to carry out this mod and the diode specified is three-amp.

22-05-2019, 12:41 AM	#1
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	Apart from being an interesting little tale about nothing much, there is another angle here. That is, that the diode was not leaking and that the diode mod itself is back to a clean bill of health, in my opinion. In fact, my initial plan had been to replace the diode with a pukka sidestand bypass kit from Electraeon, which I have. But, on closer inspection, that kit appears to be exactly the same in principle, just with a load of extra wiring and superseal connectors to make fitment straightforward. At least, I think its the same. The wiring logic is but the diode it contains is covered in shrinktube so I haven't actually seen it yet .. but I will uncover it and report back shortly. Not sure whether these kits are still available .. I picked mine up secondhand on ebay. My setup is neater anyway, because rather than running a wire all the way from the neutral switch to the sidestand switch on the other side of the bike, mine picks up the same wire where it enters the sidestand relay .. which only requires 8 inches of single wire and one single bullet connector ... plus a bit of splicing. The whole thing is superneat and simple ..you'd struggle to spot that its there at all. And the harness still comes apart for maintenance. Once I've stripped out the diode in the Electraeon kit I will post more details of how to do the mod. I will also be able to confirm the spec of the diode by comparison of the Electraeon one with that supplied by "Xenocide". Incidentally, these diodes literally cost just a few pence. The above refers to an original type monster (M750 to be exact, and developed initially on the 900Sie that Gazza now owns) but the logic should/might transfer. Oh, and for those that don't know, I speak as one who had earlier bridged the sidestand wires, leaving the bike in the dangerous condition of being startable on the sidestand whether it was in neutral or not. One forgetful evening, that became the reason that my bike is now blue ... the orange tank bit the dust (well, a lampost actually) when I thumbed the button in gear and the bike leapt off the stand. So, I really really like this mod. I also like the blue, as it happens.