My S2R 800 - Page 6

350TSS · 08-02-2021, 07:25 PM

I would go with the 10 low head SS from the bolt supplier, they are almost certainly A2 stainless which is nearly as strong as plated 8.8 high tensile and does not corrode as badly as the high tensile.

pooh · 08-02-2021, 08:25 PM

I was always told the use of stainless on brakes was a definite NO due to its propensity to become brittle on heat cycles as found on brakes. I’ve always used titanium or standard HT if money was tight. Not sure if I’ve been wrongly informed but I like to be sure I’m going to stop when I pull the lever.

Pooh

slob · 08-02-2021, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooh

I was always told the use of stainless on brakes was a definite NO due to its propensity to become brittle on heat cycles as found on brakes. I’ve always used titanium or standard HT if money was tight. Not sure if I’ve been wrongly informed but I like to be sure I’m going to stop when I pull the lever.

Pooh

I think that relates more to shear strength on caliper mounting bolts, rather than tensile strength on pinch bolts, however IT'S YOUR BRAKES! I'd happily pay 30 quid extra to be on safe side there

Blah blah · 20-02-2021, 04:15 PM

The hoses are fine and tbh I wouldn't be happy twisting the banjos, they are after all my brakes and have been made by people who know what they're doing. I don't need titanium pins (or nipples) as the calipers came with them, the bolts have been replaced with new plated steel (grade 12.9!) and are looking shiny.

No worries on the thread hi-jack about the tank, "tecknorace" in Italy is a name I have having searched, and there's a thread on here and other forums about the tank geoffduk (?) got for his monster that seems a bit lush.

it's just the £2k for a tank I'm struggling to hide from the wife, no, err justify

as it'll mean I've spent more on upgrades to the suspension, brakes and tank than it cost to buy the thing in the first place.

Mind you, with all the changes I've made and those done by others, it's probably worthless now...

Anyway, if you factor in man maths, it'll cost about £1700 for a new plastic tank from Ducati that will then need to be sealed and may expand in the future so it'll probably cost the same as an alloy one in the long run...

yellowfever · 20-02-2021, 04:17 PM

Re, alu tank If we are talking about technorace in Italy, then following a very helpful exchange with Geoff on here to get some views and advice (he I think pioneered getting one from them). I ordered one, not with me yet but production very much underway all looking good so far. My S2R 1000 is a forever bike for me, tank issue not so bad on mine but it still spoiled my expensive custom paint job, so I’m doing what I can to upgrade it/future proof it whilst special parts etc are reasonably available... obviously it’s not cheap (luckily I’m in EU so not impacted by tax and import duties etc...) but if you’re going to keep your bike long term then it may be worth it to you to know the issue is sorted once and for all.

Cheers

David

20-02-2021, 04:52 PM

David,

That’s the kiddy, from Geoffs post too!. I mailed them and they got back to me in a couple of hours.

Like you, mines a keeper so although it’s a huge hit there is no saying buying a replacement plastic one won’t do the same thing in the future.I had taken the precautions and it still failed.

I wonder if there are a few of us would they do a group discount

slob · 20-02-2021, 04:54 PM

Ride to Italy, swap tanks, sell original on Italian eBay?

20-02-2021, 05:14 PM

Brilliant !!, not sure my existing tank would be worth very much though

yellowfever · 21-02-2021, 11:29 AM

Yeah Alu tank is a big ask, but frankly my custom paint job was not cheap, so for me getting that redone on a plastic tank only to risk it happening again was not such an appealing idea... hence getting alu tank. Will be a while before I get it painted and fitted (once it gets delivered) but this at least spreads the costs out and ensures I get alu tank whilst still available... I know many people spent years trying to find one/get one made, so didn’t want to miss the chance. Our bikes getting more niche as the years go by...

Blah blah · 03-04-2021, 04:00 PM

Anyway, the new brakes work but I think that the new pads (EBC) may take a bit of bedding in as they felt a bit 'dead' to start with but after 70ish miles I didn't notice them as much. I was still trying to feel what was going on at the front though so something else to get used to.

Lever travel wasn't anything excessive or even a concern so I'm going to stick with the master cylinder as that means a bit more in the kitty for the tank

Darren69 · 03-04-2021, 06:13 PM

It's 20% tax plus shipping. Brexit? What bright sparks voted for that?

uncle duke · 03-04-2021, 07:46 PM

Ordered a couple of bike related things from Germany recently & both were here within a week & no extra's to pay... was i lucky ? or is it a bit hit & miss ?

Darren69 · 03-04-2021, 06:14 PM

Knob ends, lol

Blah blah · 02-05-2021, 06:01 PM

Turns out I've now had this for 5 years, and it's even better than when I bought it (which considering what I've done to it, it should be

)

Blah blah · 12-08-2021, 03:34 PM

And the Monster now has some competition for my limiting riding time...

748 bored to 853, tweaked ECU, Termis, ohlins rear and K tech front etc etc

08-02-2021, 08:25 PM	#2
pooh Lincolnshire Area Rep Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grimsby Bike: M900ie Posts: 469	I was always told the use of stainless on brakes was a definite NO due to its propensity to become brittle on heat cycles as found on brakes. I’ve always used titanium or standard HT if money was tight. Not sure if I’ve been wrongly informed but I like to be sure I’m going to stop when I pull the lever. Pooh __________________ Slighty less brain cells than I was born with

20-02-2021, 04:15 PM	#4
Blah blah Upsetting normal people.. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portreath Bike: S2r Posts: 833	The hoses are fine and tbh I wouldn't be happy twisting the banjos, they are after all my brakes and have been made by people who know what they're doing. I don't need titanium pins (or nipples) as the calipers came with them, the bolts have been replaced with new plated steel (grade 12.9!) and are looking shiny. No worries on the thread hi-jack about the tank, "tecknorace" in Italy is a name I have having searched, and there's a thread on here and other forums about the tank geoffduk (?) got for his monster that seems a bit lush. it's just the £2k for a tank I'm struggling to hide from the wife, no, err justify as it'll mean I've spent more on upgrades to the suspension, brakes and tank than it cost to buy the thing in the first place. Mind you, with all the changes I've made and those done by others, it's probably worthless now... Anyway, if you factor in man maths, it'll cost about £1700 for a new plastic tank from Ducati that will then need to be sealed and may expand in the future so it'll probably cost the same as an alloy one in the long run... __________________ Power is nothing without control... I have neither ! Last edited by Blah blah; 20-02-2021 at 04:30 PM..

03-04-2021, 04:00 PM	#10
Blah blah Upsetting normal people.. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portreath Bike: S2r Posts: 833	Anyway, the new brakes work but I think that the new pads (EBC) may take a bit of bedding in as they felt a bit 'dead' to start with but after 70ish miles I didn't notice them as much. I was still trying to feel what was going on at the front though so something else to get used to. Lever travel wasn't anything excessive or even a concern so I'm going to stick with the master cylinder as that means a bit more in the kitty for the tank __________________ Power is nothing without control... I have neither !

03-04-2021, 06:13 PM	#11
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,026	It's 20% tax plus shipping. Brexit? What bright sparks voted for that? __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

03-04-2021, 06:14 PM	#13
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,026	Knob ends, lol __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

08-02-2021, 07:25 PM	#1
350TSS Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Shipbourne Bike: M900 Posts: 1,419	I would go with the 10 low head SS from the bolt supplier, they are almost certainly A2 stainless which is nearly as strong as plated 8.8 high tensile and does not corrode as badly as the high tensile.

20-02-2021, 04:17 PM	#5
yellowfever Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London Bike: S2r 1000 Posts: 173	Re, alu tank If we are talking about technorace in Italy, then following a very helpful exchange with Geoff on here to get some views and advice (he I think pioneered getting one from them). I ordered one, not with me yet but production very much underway all looking good so far. My S2R 1000 is a forever bike for me, tank issue not so bad on mine but it still spoiled my expensive custom paint job, so I’m doing what I can to upgrade it/future proof it whilst special parts etc are reasonably available... obviously it’s not cheap (luckily I’m in EU so not impacted by tax and import duties etc...) but if you’re going to keep your bike long term then it may be worth it to you to know the issue is sorted once and for all. Cheers David

20-02-2021, 04:52 PM	#6
Moco1961 Guest Posts: n/a	David, That’s the kiddy, from Geoffs post too!. I mailed them and they got back to me in a couple of hours. Like you, mines a keeper so although it’s a huge hit there is no saying buying a replacement plastic one won’t do the same thing in the future.I had taken the precautions and it still failed. I wonder if there are a few of us would they do a group discount

20-02-2021, 04:54 PM	#7
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,713	Ride to Italy, swap tanks, sell original on Italian eBay?

20-02-2021, 05:14 PM	#8
Moco1961 Guest Posts: n/a	Brilliant !!, not sure my existing tank would be worth very much though

21-02-2021, 11:29 AM	#9
yellowfever Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London Bike: S2r 1000 Posts: 173	Yeah Alu tank is a big ask, but frankly my custom paint job was not cheap, so for me getting that redone on a plastic tank only to risk it happening again was not such an appealing idea... hence getting alu tank. Will be a while before I get it painted and fitted (once it gets delivered) but this at least spreads the costs out and ensures I get alu tank whilst still available... I know many people spent years trying to find one/get one made, so didn’t want to miss the chance. Our bikes getting more niche as the years go by...

03-04-2021, 07:46 PM	#12
uncle duke Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: ipswich Bike: S2r 1000 Posts: 138	Ordered a couple of bike related things from Germany recently & both were here within a week & no extra's to pay... was i lucky ? or is it a bit hit & miss ?

02-05-2021, 06:01 PM	#14
Blah blah Upsetting normal people.. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portreath Bike: S2r Posts: 833	Turns out I've now had this for 5 years, and it's even better than when I bought it (which considering what I've done to it, it should be ) __________________ Power is nothing without control... I have neither !

12-08-2021, 03:34 PM	#15
Blah blah Upsetting normal people.. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portreath Bike: S2r Posts: 833	And the Monster now has some competition for my limiting riding time... 748 bored to 853, tweaked ECU, Termis, ohlins rear and K tech front etc etc __________________ Power is nothing without control... I have neither !