My M750 Rebuild - Page 3

10-03-2015, 10:35 AM

Seat unit coming on, shown with rear brake light/indicator combo in position (but not wired in!)

Have never used fibre glass before, messy but brill!

17-03-2015, 07:37 AM

OK, so the time has come to remove the engine from the frame (frame away to powder coaters as soon as I have the cash)

I have removed engines from bikes before but always out of a cradle type frame before (Jap bikes only)

Read the Haynes bible and came up with this as a one man method

Bike on the bench, engine chocked up, frame suspended on rafters - NOTE - THIS METHOD IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR GOLD WINGS OR HARDLEY MOVINGSONS!!

Next move, undo shock, swinging arm pivot point fixings making sure not to lose any of the circlips, shims, thrust washers etc (There's bloody loads of them!!)

Now raise bench slightly to fully support engine weight as below

Remove engine bolts, one each side at the front and one through bolt at the back, catch all the bloody washers/spacers again hoping you've got them all and thinking you know where they go on re-assembly!!

then lower the bench until the frame (still suspended from the rafters) clears the engine - job done!

Was a doddle to do alone, unlike a "normal" frame where 1 of you has to crouch (bending your back into the worst shape possible for lifting) reach into the frame to jiggle/remove the motor while someone else knock out the bolts.

I'm thinking it should be quite simple to do this in reverse and lower the frame back down onto the engine - or am I being optimistic??

17-03-2015, 07:59 AM

As your frame will be stripped for powder coating, putting it back on should be simpler.
Just lower the completely naked frame onto the motor (its relatively light)
- and then start cutting away plastic coating until the frame mates up to the motor mounting lugs!

30-03-2015, 06:22 PM

Started polishing up my exhaust pipes - before and after pic

The motor after first coats of etch primer and satin black. Lots of awkward little places to rub down with my awkward big hands!!

Mr Gazza · 30-03-2015, 07:23 PM

Now you've gone and done it..!!!!

I'm going to have to take the mop to my rocker and camshaft covers now...

(That's a veiled compliment....Looking good Taff..)

27-08-2015, 08:40 PM

Not dead, just skint!!

Frame heading for powder coating this week, so abnormal service may be resumed some time soon

01-10-2015, 12:28 PM

This arrived on my drive this morning - it certainly attracted the attention of our local Mr. Nosey who lives opposite.

After taking it as suspiciously as possible (so as to provide maximum arousal for Mr. Nosey's nose) to my shed, I unwrapped all to find these :-

Now the fun really begins - I have a quite complicated 3D Ducati jigsaw in my shed and only a vague memory of what goes where (Its been apart so long!!)

I think its best if you all now stand by for a constant barrage of dumb**s questions along the lines of :-

What is this bit?

Where does it go?

Do I really need it or can I bin it?

Albie · 01-10-2015, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taff666

This arrived on my drive this morning - it certainly attracted the attention of our local Mr. Nosey who lives opposite.

After taking it as suspiciously as possible (so as to provide maximum arousal for Mr. Nosey's nose) to my shed, I unwrapped all to find these :-

Now the fun really begins - I have a quite complicated 3D Ducati jigsaw in my shed and only a vague memory of what goes where (Its been apart so long!!)

I think its best if you all now stand by for a constant barrage of dumb**s questions along the lines of :-

What is this bit?

Where does it go?

Do I really need it or can I bin it?

I printed out the part diagrams from the Stein Dins website for part reference to hand and also if you need a pic of said part they have them to hand when you click.on the part number.

01-10-2015, 12:38 PM

The frame and swing arm are great, I kind of wish I had done that instead of going the original aged bronze paint route!

Darren69 · 01-10-2015, 01:40 PM

Nice, Is it chrome or that fancy metallic powder coat?

Mr Gazza · 01-10-2015, 06:59 PM

Just about to ask the same question Darren.....looks like Mirror Chrome Powder Coating to me?

Yorkie · 01-10-2015, 07:10 PM

Good looking bits and bobs.

Get it built.

Yorkie

Albie · 01-10-2015, 07:23 PM

Yes they do amazing powdercoat colours now if that's so. Redditch offered me chrome alloy finish stuff. It looks great if the product is absolutely free from pitting or dinks.

I really like that look. What colour are the wheels being done ?

Question did you lose your frame number there ?

01-10-2015, 08:07 PM

That is real nice looking powder coating.

01-10-2015, 09:02 PM

It's Grade A+ powder coating Dudes

Looks like polished ally, not quite chrome shiny.

Done by Aerocoat, Great Yarmouth. (Google 'em, they're brill!!)

They have a coating called "Aeromax" bit more expensive than flat colour but I'm going for the bling look!

Brill service (they phoned me abroad to ask if the price was OK) Top quality.

OK You've looked at the pics, now it's time to "Help An Idiot"

Quick Note
A Bit About My Monster History

It may also explain why I've forgotten so much about which part of this motorcycle is connected to that part of this motorcycle!!

I bought this Monster in 2006 to go on an already arranged trip when my Harley munched a cam bearing. Harley - Monster..... it's a V twin thing.

After seeing the light that said Harleys are sh*te, I returned to motorcycling of the oriental type - CB1300, Fazer 1000, and the Monster became a "project bike" around 2008, mothballed around 2009, but then I bought an Aprilia RSV, which sent me back to big cc V twins, which led to me getting back to my Monster (and a KTM RC8) and rambling here.

I have zero engineering training - I am a draftsman and Stella drinker! I need help - but not the type " connect the sprigthromble to the adjacent spragdodger" - I can only understand short words and can lose interest/attention quite quickly (I am almost old) - please treat me as a mechanical idiot.

Questions

Do frames "swell" a bit when they cook the powder coating on? Engine/frame gaps seem larger than when I dismantled this.

I have started rebuilding and would appreciate any pics/diags of where the spacers that fell out when I removed frame/engine bolts re-fit!

Rear mounting is full length through engine and both sides of frame but does not now appear to be long enough. I knew I should have taken more pics when I dismantled it (about 3 yrs and 2 phones ago!)

From memory they both fell out of the same (RHS sitting on bike) side. I have 2 no. 2 or 3mm spacers to fit.

If anyone can point me in the direction of a Ducati M750 (1997) manual (preferably with loadsa pics and short words! even if it is in Italian, it's very much like Welsh, honest!) that would save me from bugging y'all with the many, many stoopid questions that are to come, it would be much appreciated.

10-03-2015, 10:35 AM	#1
Taff666 Guest Posts: n/a	Fibre glass seat unit Seat unit coming on, shown with rear brake light/indicator combo in position (but not wired in!) Have never used fibre glass before, messy but brill!

17-03-2015, 07:37 AM	#2
Taff666 Guest Posts: n/a	Engine removal - first time! OK, so the time has come to remove the engine from the frame (frame away to powder coaters as soon as I have the cash) I have removed engines from bikes before but always out of a cradle type frame before (Jap bikes only) Read the Haynes bible and came up with this as a one man method Bike on the bench, engine chocked up, frame suspended on rafters - NOTE - THIS METHOD IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR GOLD WINGS OR HARDLEY MOVINGSONS!! Next move, undo shock, swinging arm pivot point fixings making sure not to lose any of the circlips, shims, thrust washers etc (There's bloody loads of them!!) Now raise bench slightly to fully support engine weight as below Remove engine bolts, one each side at the front and one through bolt at the back, catch all the bloody washers/spacers again hoping you've got them all and thinking you know where they go on re-assembly!! then lower the bench until the frame (still suspended from the rafters) clears the engine - job done! Was a doddle to do alone, unlike a "normal" frame where 1 of you has to crouch (bending your back into the worst shape possible for lifting) reach into the frame to jiggle/remove the motor while someone else knock out the bolts. I'm thinking it should be quite simple to do this in reverse and lower the frame back down onto the engine - or am I being optimistic??

30-03-2015, 06:22 PM	#4
Taff666 Guest Posts: n/a	The Grind goes on. Started polishing up my exhaust pipes - before and after pic The motor after first coats of etch primer and satin black. Lots of awkward little places to rub down with my awkward big hands!!

27-08-2015, 08:40 PM	#6
Taff666 Guest Posts: n/a	And you thought I was dead....... Not dead, just skint!! Frame heading for powder coating this week, so abnormal service may be resumed some time soon

01-10-2015, 12:28 PM	#7
Taff666 Guest Posts: n/a	Les Bling Sont Arrive This arrived on my drive this morning - it certainly attracted the attention of our local Mr. Nosey who lives opposite. After taking it as suspiciously as possible (so as to provide maximum arousal for Mr. Nosey's nose) to my shed, I unwrapped all to find these :- Now the fun really begins - I have a quite complicated 3D Ducati jigsaw in my shed and only a vague memory of what goes where (Its been apart so long!!) I think its best if you all now stand by for a constant barrage of dumb**s questions along the lines of :- What is this bit? Where does it go? Do I really need it or can I bin it?

17-03-2015, 07:59 AM	#3
DrD Guest Posts: n/a	As your frame will be stripped for powder coating, putting it back on should be simpler. Just lower the completely naked frame onto the motor (its relatively light) - and then start cutting away plastic coating until the frame mates up to the motor mounting lugs!

30-03-2015, 07:23 PM	#5
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,831	Now you've gone and done it..!!!! I'm going to have to take the mop to my rocker and camshaft covers now... (That's a veiled compliment....Looking good Taff..)

01-10-2015, 12:38 PM	#9
don_matese Guest Posts: n/a	The frame and swing arm are great, I kind of wish I had done that instead of going the original aged bronze paint route!

01-10-2015, 01:40 PM	#10
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,025	Nice, Is it chrome or that fancy metallic powder coat? __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

01-10-2015, 06:59 PM	#11
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,831	Just about to ask the same question Darren.....looks like Mirror Chrome Powder Coating to me? __________________

01-10-2015, 07:10 PM	#12
Yorkie Anglo-Saxon Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: North Yorkshire Bike: M900 Posts: 2,485	Good looking bits and bobs. Get it built. Yorkie __________________ NO ICE, GUN IT!

01-10-2015, 07:23 PM	#13
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,033	Yes they do amazing powdercoat colours now if that's so. Redditch offered me chrome alloy finish stuff. It looks great if the product is absolutely free from pitting or dinks. I really like that look. What colour are the wheels being done ? Question did you lose your frame number there ? __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/ Last edited by Albie; 01-10-2015 at 07:25 PM..

01-10-2015, 08:07 PM	#14
Dookbob Guest Posts: n/a	That is real nice looking powder coating.

01-10-2015, 09:02 PM	#15
Taff666 Guest Posts: n/a	Dumbs Questions Begin It's Grade A+ powder coating Dudes Looks like polished ally, not quite chrome shiny. Done by Aerocoat, Great Yarmouth. (Google 'em, they're brill!!) They have a coating called "Aeromax" bit more expensive than flat colour but I'm going for the bling look! Brill service (they phoned me abroad to ask if the price was OK) Top quality. OK You've looked at the pics, now it's time to "Help An Idiot" Quick Note A Bit About My Monster History It may also explain why I've forgotten so much about which part of this motorcycle is connected to that part of this motorcycle!!** I bought this Monster in 2006 to go on an already arranged trip when my Harley munched a cam bearing. Harley - Monster..... it's a V twin thing. After seeing the light that said Harleys are shte, I returned to motorcycling of the oriental type - CB1300, Fazer 1000, and the Monster became a "project bike" around 2008, mothballed around 2009, but then I bought an Aprilia RSV, which sent me back to big cc V twins, which led to me getting back to my Monster (and a KTM RC8) and rambling here. I have zero engineering training - I am a draftsman and Stella drinker! I need help - but not the type " connect the sprigthromble to the adjacent spragdodger" - I can only understand short words and can lose interest/attention quite quickly (I am almost old) - please treat me as a mechanical idiot. Questions* Do frames "swell" a bit when they cook the powder coating on? Engine/frame gaps seem larger than when I dismantled this. I have started rebuilding and would appreciate any pics/diags of where the spacers that fell out when I removed frame/engine bolts re-fit! Rear mounting is full length through engine and both sides of frame but does not now appear to be long enough. I knew I should have taken more pics when I dismantled it (about 3 yrs and 2 phones ago!) From memory they both fell out of the same (RHS sitting on bike) side. I have 2 no. 2 or 3mm spacers to fit. If anyone can point me in the direction of a Ducati M750 (1997) manual (preferably with loadsa pics and short words! even if it is in Italian, it's very much like Welsh, honest!) that would save me from bugging y'all with the many, many stoopid questions that are to come, it would be much appreciated.