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Old 03-12-2013, 05:49 PM   #61
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Why would you want a 1200 when you already have something as good looking as this?
Well the EVO is great, but lacks a bit of top end power if you've been used to more like, say, on the S4/R/S, or other non-Monster alternatives.

The 1200 addresses that issue, and then some, I should think.

Cobra - your EVO is looking absolutely fantastic - quite envious of the forks and I love the white tank / red frame / black wheels combo more than I ever thought possible. And the exhaust, whilst not the sexiest I've seen, is pretty damn close to being so, and looks like it means business.

Nice work.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:00 PM   #62
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Well the EVO is great, but lacks a bit of top end power if you've been used to more like, say, on the S4/R/S, or other non-Monster alternatives.

The 1200 addresses that issue, and then some, I should think.
Ah ok, yes, fair enough I suppose, thanks Bob. For me looks trump performance though, hence I'm on a Ducati. Is there a lot in it then. I heard the 1200 has about 140bhp what does the Evo kick out?
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:04 PM   #63
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damn i was just thinking about a 1100s front end on mine today!.
Not only have you beaten me to it but you have exactly the same colour as me!
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:22 PM   #64
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Ah ok, yes, fair enough I suppose, thanks Bob. For me looks trump performance though, hence I'm on a Ducati. Is there a lot in it then. I heard the 1200 has about 140bhp what does the Evo kick out?
They claim 100bhp at the crank for the EVO - it's the most powerful air-cooled motor they ever made. Reckon on about 85 at the rear wheel, probably. (I think JP had his dyno'd at 88.)

The 1200S claims 145 peak at the crank. So, 45% more! Some of that from more torque generally, the rest because it won't run out of revs at 8000rpm.

IMHO the EVO has more than enough for UK roads - enough to go stupidly fast and get into trouble... you just have to work a bit harder at it and that, for me, is where the enjoyment comes from anyway. If you go on track, however, it is frustrating because a 600cc rice burner or a 675 Triumph will leave an EVO for dead on any decent length of straight. The 1200 will not have that trouble.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:47 PM   #65
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Hi Dan

What you done with your anni bodywork ?

Im after a corse kit if i can find one but also like the anni as the retro font looks cool.
Rick

Hi Bob

I have done the 189 @ rear wheel zx10R stuff and many many trackdays and tired of huge power bikes
The evo is just about perfect for uk twisties and shorter
UK trackdays and i enjoy riding a slow bike fast more than trying not to highside on every exit
(I know JP. )
My traction control has been off since it stopped me wheeliing between 2 of my favorite corners
Horsepower is great but more than the 85 i guess the evo puts to the ground is pointless on the road for me anyway.
I am still at the front of my riding group on all our rides and they all have silly power sports bikes.
I even bought a 500 nexus scooter 3 years ago to try and get sane.
Still left most of my lot behind.
Torque is far more fun on the road than HP.

I am guessing Ducati's 145 hp 1200s is the usual Ducati 125 at the wheel and with 25 kg of excess baggage it will only be faster than the Evo on a motorway or D Carriageway
So would rather improve the already reasonable 1100 evo
Have already shed 10 kg and a few more with soon to fit wheels.

Hope my ramblings make sense.

Also my finished mortgage loads of expendable dosh came to an end after 25 years when i split from my X and she took me to cleaners after i bought everything!
Now had to start again at 50 with new mortgage etc but as bonus met my GF when she was out on her Z1000 which i had at same time

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Old 03-12-2013, 07:26 PM   #66
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I like the vlog Dan
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:43 PM   #67
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Great transformation and an amazing looking bike. Envy of this suspension.
Happy for you!
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:09 PM   #68
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If you go on track, however, it is frustrating because a 600cc rice burner or a 675 Triumph will leave an EVO for dead on any decent length of straight. The 1200 will not have that trouble.
So in other words no real point in swapping an 11 for a 12 ( unless you prefer the looks) Doesn't matter what bike you take to the track there will always be a faster one there, unless you dedicate yourself to owning the fastest track bike you can.

Of course if you want a bit of extra oomph for the 1100 a cheap way is to improve aero and cooling by adding a belly pan
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:29 PM   #69
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Oh dear

I have been looking at unobtanium (ti) fasteners tonight

The next weight loss is gonna be pricey
The 10 front disc bolts i just bought in ti are 38 grams for all 10
The original steel bolts are 125 grams for all 10
1198 330 mm discs are 250 grams each lighter than the evo discs.
All unsprung weight.
Will also invert my rear ohlins soon to save unsprung weight

Might just leave it for weight as it feels like a 250 now.
Cant find a Corse bodykit.
Ebay italy has all the others but no Corse kits :/

Wheels here tomorrow but i have too much work to fiddle in garage :[

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Old 03-12-2013, 09:18 PM   #70
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Oh dear

I have been looking at unobtanium (ti) fasteners tonight

The next weight loss is gonna be pricey
The 10 front disc bolts i just bought in ti are 38 grams for all 10
The original steel bolts are 125 grams for all 10
1198 330 mm discs are 250 grams each lighter than the evo discs.
All unsprung weight.
Will also invert my rear ohlins soon to save unsprung weight

Might just leave it for weight as it feels like a 250 now.
Cant find a Corse bodykit.
Ebay italy has all the others but no Corse kits :/

Wheels here tomorrow but i have too much work to fiddle in garage :[
Funny I have been looking at zinc screw kits for the peds

What wheels are these then carbon ones. I fancy black but don't want to paint mine.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:22 PM   #71
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Hi Albie

No mate
I would not use carbon wheels on the road.

I have bought forged aluminium OZ Piega 5 spoke billet wheels in Black anodised finish
(Secondhand) off an 848
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:50 PM   #72
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No mate
I would not use carbon wheels on the road.
Why not?

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Old 03-12-2013, 10:05 PM   #73
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So in other words no real point in swapping an 11 for a 12 ( unless you prefer the looks) Doesn't matter what bike you take to the track there will always be a faster one there, unless you dedicate yourself to owning the fastest track bike you can.
It's just that I wince every time the thing hits the rev limiter... a quickshifter would help loads.

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Of course if you want a bit of extra oomph for the 1100 a cheap way is to improve aero and cooling by adding a belly pan
Watch it, you.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:18 PM   #74
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I like the vlog Dan
Thanks and your little story there........ same thing happened to me but at 28, big reset button and start again.

The anniversary bodywork is wrapped up and the plan is to put it back on when i sell it on and flog the Chinese panels separately, so cant help you sorry!.
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Sorry about story
Been at the JD a bit last night

Those Chinese panels dont look like a bad fit.
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