Safest Way To Jack Up Front End for Wheel & Fork Removal M750

motomartin11 · 02-10-2021, 10:00 AM

I don't have a front stand but need to remove my forks. I've got the bike raised up either side on jacks with a piece of timber between the jacks and the engine and have a failsafe axle stand under the front of the engine supported with a piece of timber in between. Everything appears safe and solid but I thought I would check here before removing the wheel and forks .The back end is on the rear paddock stand.

350TSS · 02-10-2021, 11:02 AM

Ratchet straps to the rafters in the garage would stop it toppling off the jacks. Jacking the engine I have never found to be satisfactory as the sump is vee shaped and the exhaust pipe gets in the way.

Stevedesmo · 02-10-2021, 11:21 AM

Unless you have a sure fire method that can’t fail, best bet is at least two others that are 90%!
As above, rope or ratchet straps from a rafter work well, but I’ve seen people us a pair of step ladders across the front end of the bike with a rope from the top to take the weight.
Chocking the crank case seems to work, but makes me feel uncomfortable waiting for the sound of cracked alloy castings

Blah blah · 02-10-2021, 01:42 PM

I used an ABBA stand and a step ladder with ratchet straps under the yokes when I swapped the forks on the S2r.

It can't fall off ratchet straps, especially useful when wiggling the axle to get it out / put it back in

Nickj · 02-10-2021, 05:54 PM

It always left me a bit cagey with a paddock stand under the swinging arm and the motor blocked up.. the masses and pivot points always felt too small to allow for any serious pish and pulls at the front.
At the moment my S2R is on a rear ankle stand and one of the front end lifters that plugs into the head stem.
Feels quite secure but I'd still want to treat it as on the edge of failing.

Darkness · 02-10-2021, 07:17 PM

A couple of nylon coated hooks into the frame members by the headstock, hung off a ceiling joists on ratchet straps always worked for me?

chris.p · 03-10-2021, 07:48 AM

Bike on rear paddock stand, if unable to ratchet strap front of the bike from garage beams, 2 step ladders, 1 each side of the front of the the bike, with a pole or plank between them and ratchet straps to the yolks to suspend the front end.

Flip · 03-10-2021, 08:06 AM

Why risk it falling off various ways of lifting the front end. Plus I never like the idea of supporting a motorcycle directly by the motor rather than frame rails (which a Monster obviously doesn’t have).

I have used the ladder technique for supporting both the front and rear (when taking out the rear shock) but unless you plan on changing the steering bearings while you get the forks out just get an under head-stock front stand and use with a rear stand and it’ll be fine.

I got my front stand from here:

https://www.ghostbikes.com/5064-blac...iABEgIaEPD_BwE

Jam911 · 03-10-2021, 12:16 PM

Loving the ladder method.

motomartin11 · 03-10-2021, 05:25 PM

Thanks for all the advice : much appreciated. I think I am going to start by ordering Flip's front stand. I'm not planning any work on the head bearings-just the forks. My wife has expressed her reservations about pulling the garage down by using the roof trusses and ratchets straps!

Darkness · 03-10-2021, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by motomartin11

Thanks for all the advice : much appreciated. I think I am going to start by ordering Flip's front stand. I'm not planning any work on the head bearings-just the forks. My wife has expressed her reservations about pulling the garage down by using the roof trusses and ratchets straps!

If you think the roof is that fragile, I would suggest you stay out of there when it’s windy!

Front end weight is about 100Kg so try doing a few pull ups yourself and provided it doesn’t collapse then it’s fine!

motomartin11 · 03-10-2021, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkness

If you think the roof is that fragile, I would suggest you stay out of there when it’s windy!

Front end weight is about 100Kg so try doing a few pull ups yourself and provided it doesn’t collapse then it’s fine!

Well I did try to tell her but.....you know what they can be - like-apologies for any political incorrectness...

Darkness · 03-10-2021, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by motomartin11

Well I did try to tell her but.....you know what they can be - like-apologies for any political incorrectness...

Indeed, sometimes it’s not worth the argument!

enbee23 · 04-10-2021, 08:10 AM

Sometimes it's easier to ask forgiveness afterwards than permission before!

Darren69 · 04-10-2021, 09:40 AM

I'd go for an Abba stand with the front lift attachment. Unless you've already got a rear paddock as it can do both and you can remove both wheels and front yokes too if you need.

02-10-2021, 10:00 AM	#1
motomartin11 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: stourbridge Bike: M750 Posts: 352	Safest Way To Jack Up Front End for Wheel & Fork Removal M750 I don't have a front stand but need to remove my forks. I've got the bike raised up either side on jacks with a piece of timber between the jacks and the engine and have a failsafe axle stand under the front of the engine supported with a piece of timber in between. Everything appears safe and solid but I thought I would check here before removing the wheel and forks .The back end is on the rear paddock stand.

02-10-2021, 01:42 PM	#4
Blah blah Upsetting normal people.. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portreath Bike: S2r Posts: 833	I used an ABBA stand and a step ladder with ratchet straps under the yokes when I swapped the forks on the S2r. It can't fall off ratchet straps, especially useful when wiggling the axle to get it out / put it back in __________________ Power is nothing without control... I have neither !

02-10-2021, 05:54 PM	#5
Nickj Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forest Of Dean Bike: S2r Posts: 3,193	It always left me a bit cagey with a paddock stand under the swinging arm and the motor blocked up.. the masses and pivot points always felt too small to allow for any serious pish and pulls at the front. At the moment my S2R is on a rear ankle stand and one of the front end lifters that plugs into the head stem. Feels quite secure but I'd still want to treat it as on the edge of failing. __________________ "The final measure of any rider's skill is the inverse ratio of his preferred Traveling Speed to the number of bad scars on his body." Song of the sausage creature

02-10-2021, 07:17 PM	#6
Darkness . Join Date: May 2007 Location: Stockbridge Bike: M900 Posts: 1,984	A couple of nylon coated hooks into the frame members by the headstock, hung off a ceiling joists on ratchet straps always worked for me? __________________ Original and Best since 1993

03-10-2021, 08:06 AM	#8
Flip Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beachtown Bike: M900 Posts: 2,188	Why risk it falling off various ways of lifting the front end. Plus I never like the idea of supporting a motorcycle directly by the motor rather than frame rails (which a Monster obviously doesn’t have). I have used the ladder technique for supporting both the front and rear (when taking out the rear shock) but unless you plan on changing the steering bearings while you get the forks out just get an under head-stock front stand and use with a rear stand and it’ll be fine. I got my front stand from here: https://www.ghostbikes.com/5064-blac...iABEgIaEPD_BwE __________________ You're perfect, yes, it's true- But without me you're only you!

02-10-2021, 11:02 AM	#2
350TSS Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Shipbourne Bike: M900 Posts: 1,419	Ratchet straps to the rafters in the garage would stop it toppling off the jacks. Jacking the engine I have never found to be satisfactory as the sump is vee shaped and the exhaust pipe gets in the way.

02-10-2021, 11:21 AM	#3
Stevedesmo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: wirral Bike: S4r Posts: 50	Unless you have a sure fire method that can’t fail, best bet is at least two others that are 90%! As above, rope or ratchet straps from a rafter work well, but I’ve seen people us a pair of step ladders across the front end of the bike with a rope from the top to take the weight. Chocking the crank case seems to work, but makes me feel uncomfortable waiting for the sound of cracked alloy castings

03-10-2021, 07:48 AM	#7
chris.p Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: lincoln Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 876	Bike on rear paddock stand, if unable to ratchet strap front of the bike from garage beams, 2 step ladders, 1 each side of the front of the the bike, with a pole or plank between them and ratchet straps to the yolks to suspend the front end.

03-10-2021, 12:16 PM	#9
Jam911 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Stratford Upon Avon Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 288	Loving the ladder method.

03-10-2021, 05:25 PM	#10
motomartin11 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: stourbridge Bike: M750 Posts: 352	Thanks for all the advice : much appreciated. I think I am going to start by ordering Flip's front stand. I'm not planning any work on the head bearings-just the forks. My wife has expressed her reservations about pulling the garage down by using the roof trusses and ratchets straps!

04-10-2021, 08:10 AM	#14
enbee23 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Nairn Bike: S4r Posts: 99	Sometimes it's easier to ask forgiveness afterwards than permission before!

04-10-2021, 09:40 AM	#15
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,023	I'd go for an Abba stand with the front lift attachment. Unless you've already got a rear paddock as it can do both and you can remove both wheels and front yokes too if you need. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage