Rear wheel removal tool

19-02-2018, 06:47 PM

Can anyone tell me where to get a rear wheel removal socket for my 1200.

Dave

Rally · 19-02-2018, 08:30 PM

Halfords do individual sockets, I got mine from them for the 1100s etc. From memory it's a 46mm, but I can check if you like?
I assume the 1200 is just a standard 6 sided hexagon nut?

Ron1000 · 19-02-2018, 08:36 PM

Yeah i got one for my evo from ebay molybdenum to use with impact gun. Double check size and sides…something in my mind is saying they are different on the 12’s

Luddite · 19-02-2018, 08:51 PM

Ron is correct; the 1200 has a different sized nut from the 1100. I think it's 55mm.

Whatever the size, it will be very tight (the 1100's is 176Nm) so I wouldn't be tempted to buy the cheapest example. Like Ron, I'd go for a chrome molybdenum (Cr-Mo) socket, which gives you the option of using an impact wrench.

You can also get combined 2-in-1 front/rear wheel nut sockets, which are handy.

Doggy · 19-02-2018, 09:01 PM

Buy cheap, buy twice!. As I found out trying to remove my MV wheel for the first time, it's done upto 220-240Nm. It broke the cheap one, just like that . Spent serious money on a decent one and it's been used and abused loads and still as good as new .

Ron1000 · 19-02-2018, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luddite

Ron is correct; the 1200 has a different sized nut from the 1100. I think it's 55mm.

Whatever the size, it will be very tight (the 1100's is 176Nm) so I wouldn't be tempted to buy the cheapest example. Like Ron, I'd go for a chrome molybdenum (Cr-Mo) socket, which gives you the option of using an impact wrench.

You can also get combined 2-in-1 front/rear wheel nut sockets, which are handy.

Holy moly, I’m actually right about something…that’s my 2018 highlight…roll on 2019.

Dukedesmo · 19-02-2018, 09:26 PM

If the wheelnut is anything like the older SSSA bikes (916 etc.) then it is likely to be a very thin nut that requires a lot of torque.

My 916 is like this and a standard 46mm socket has a rounded/bevelled edge to guide it on to the nut easier, trouble is the bevel is about half the width of the nut and so you get very little purchase onto the nut, meaning the socket easily slips and rounds off the edges of the nut.

I bought a standard 46mm socket and had this problem, so I got the end of the socket turned down so that it has a square edge and this is far better.

I don't know if you can find a 'square' edged socket, if so it's likely a Ducati specific tool with a Ducati specific price? ...

Luddite · 19-02-2018, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron1000

Holy moly, I’m actually right about something…that’s my 2018 highlight…roll on 2019.

Of course you're right, Ron, you're an 1100 Evo owner!

If your front wheel nut is 30mm, Dave, then this might do you:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-12...-/182810312511

It's specifically made for the slim wheel nuts so should avoid the possible slipping problem with standard sockets that Dukedesmo mentions.

20-02-2018, 07:48 AM

Brilliant lads thanks for all the help.

Dukedesmo · 20-02-2018, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luddite

Ron is correct; the 1200 has a different sized nut from the 1100. I think it's 55mm.

There are 2 sizes; the original was first used on the 916 and has a 46mm nut. When they introduced the 1098 they used a larger axle with the 55mm nut (presumably to better handle the bigger power?) oddly the, otherwise almost, identical 848 still used the smaller axle so whilst front wheels are interchangeable, rears are not.

Large axles are used on the bigger engined bikes, I'm not certain exactly which bikes use them but they are easily identified without measuring/comparing as the sprocket carrier has 6 fixing bolts rather than 5 as on the small axle.

utopia · 20-02-2018, 11:09 AM

Those ultra-high torques always give me the willies.
I haven't had a close look (or any look at all tbh) at the nut in question, but ... if the spindle is suitably hollow ....
I'm wondering if its possible to get a socket which has a central guide spigot to locate in the hollow bore and prevent the socket from twisting off the hex ....?
Just a thought, but if you're buying one anyway it might be worth a trawl around.

buzzbomb · 20-02-2018, 04:38 PM

Chris at desmoworld.de sells that type of socket Jeff, I've had mine for years without any problem.

Pedro · 20-02-2018, 05:07 PM

Forget using a breaker bar, get an impact gun

20-02-2018, 05:37 PM

Really appreciate all this info I was going to give it a go with a breaker bar but after reading the above I will be on the look out for an impactor.

bigredduke · 20-02-2018, 05:56 PM

Be careful to take note of the maximum torque rating for some of the cheaper cordless impact drivers, they are often well below what you will need!

19-02-2018, 06:47 PM	#1
Dave62 Guest Posts: n/a	Rear wheel removal tool Can anyone tell me where to get a rear wheel removal socket for my 1200. Dave

19-02-2018, 09:26 PM	#7
Dukedesmo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leics Bike: M900 Posts: 2,842	If the wheelnut is anything like the older SSSA bikes (916 etc.) then it is likely to be a very thin nut that requires a lot of torque. My 916 is like this and a standard 46mm socket has a rounded/bevelled edge to guide it on to the nut easier, trouble is the bevel is about half the width of the nut and so you get very little purchase onto the nut, meaning the socket easily slips and rounds off the edges of the nut. I bought a standard 46mm socket and had this problem, so I got the end of the socket turned down so that it has a square edge and this is far better. I don't know if you can find a 'square' edged socket, if so it's likely a Ducati specific tool with a Ducati specific price? ... __________________ M900, 916, LeMans II.

20-02-2018, 05:07 PM	#13
Pedro Ciao, come stai? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 4,157	Forget using a breaker bar, get an impact gun __________________ M900 - 1993! Monster 1200R!

19-02-2018, 08:30 PM	#2
Rally Taking life easy........ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Wiltshire Bike: Other Not a Ducati Posts: 1,969	Halfords do individual sockets, I got mine from them for the 1100s etc. From memory it's a 46mm, but I can check if you like? I assume the 1200 is just a standard 6 sided hexagon nut?

19-02-2018, 08:36 PM	#3
Ron1000 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Livingston Bike: M1100evo Posts: 863	Yeah i got one for my evo from ebay molybdenum to use with impact gun. Double check size and sides…something in my mind is saying they are different on the 12’s

19-02-2018, 08:51 PM	#4
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	Ron is correct; the 1200 has a different sized nut from the 1100. I think it's 55mm. Whatever the size, it will be very tight (the 1100's is 176Nm) so I wouldn't be tempted to buy the cheapest example. Like Ron, I'd go for a chrome molybdenum (Cr-Mo) socket, which gives you the option of using an impact wrench. You can also get combined 2-in-1 front/rear wheel nut sockets, which are handy.

19-02-2018, 09:01 PM	#5
Doggy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Kent Bike: M796 Posts: 510	Buy cheap, buy twice!. As I found out trying to remove my MV wheel for the first time, it's done upto 220-240Nm. It broke the cheap one, just like that . Spent serious money on a decent one and it's been used and abused loads and still as good as new .

20-02-2018, 07:48 AM	#9
Dave62 Guest Posts: n/a	Brilliant lads thanks for all the help.

20-02-2018, 11:09 AM	#11
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	Those ultra-high torques always give me the willies. I haven't had a close look (or any look at all tbh) at the nut in question, but ... if the spindle is suitably hollow .... I'm wondering if its possible to get a socket which has a central guide spigot to locate in the hollow bore and prevent the socket from twisting off the hex ....? Just a thought, but if you're buying one anyway it might be worth a trawl around.

20-02-2018, 04:38 PM	#12
buzzbomb Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: widnes Bike: M1100s Posts: 780	Chris at desmoworld.de sells that type of socket Jeff, I've had mine for years without any problem.

20-02-2018, 05:37 PM	#14
Dave62 Guest Posts: n/a	Really appreciate all this info I was going to give it a go with a breaker bar but after reading the above I will be on the look out for an impactor.

20-02-2018, 05:56 PM	#15
bigredduke Nothing to see here Join Date: May 2005 Location: brough Bike: M1100evo Posts: 1,546	Be careful to take note of the maximum torque rating for some of the cheaper cordless impact drivers, they are often well below what you will need!