Hello from Lincolnshire - Page 2

cactus · 28-07-2021, 07:18 PM

Hi and welcome.

Mr Gazza · 30-07-2021, 08:38 PM

Well the cheapo mirrors came this morning and when I got home from the MOT I had a go at fitting them.

Quality looks and feels absolutely fine. No instructions, but one comes fully assembled and the other has the mounting bits packed separately so it will fit the dinky box. so just use the assembled one as a guide for the other.

The smaller collets are 13mm so should have fitted my alloy bars, but my bars were a tad smaller than that, in fact the original bar ends had been forced in and needed levering carefully out.
I ran a 13mm drill bit down the ends of the bars about an inch and a half and the mirrors slid in and then nipped up solidly. Should be plug and play with more up to date alloy bars?

They adjust in all planes, then they can be nipped up into position. The flip back action is good and positive, I don't think the Mach 1 blast will fold them back.

Not sure about the image though. The field of view is wider and unhindered by elbows but everything looks small. (or far away Dougal!)

Also not sure about the new bald, spread-eagled look either? Nor how far further out of my field of forward vision they are.

I'll be out and about between (and during) showers this weekend so I'll report back.

hh93 · 31-07-2021, 09:17 AM

Well - they look the same as my super expensive ones !!

Dukedesmo · 31-07-2021, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hh93

Well - they look the same as my super expensive ones !!

Indeed they do and a real bargain at that price - nice one.

Darren69 · 28-07-2021, 02:25 AM

Can't believe the price of those CRG mirrors. You must want to see where you've been real bad

Found these that look foldable and at a more sensible price.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353522031...Cclp%3A2047675

Don't know what they're like though.

hh93 · 28-07-2021, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Darren69

You must want to see where you've been real bad

I actually bought them to put on my 998 but I was stuck for what to do for blanking caps once I'd removed the mirrors on that one - also whether to remove them at all as they are part of the look of the bike.

Then I sold it anyway and had them left over.

Then I bought Doris :-) and could only see my shoulders .....

Mr Gazza · 28-07-2021, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Darren69

Don't know what they're like though.

I'll let you know. I ordered a pair yesterday.
I just couldn't swallow over a hunert quid for a pair mirrors that I don't even know I'll like.

Looks like I'll be adapting them for alloy bars, but it can't be beyond the wit of man?
I wouldn't be surprised if they come out of the same factory as the CRG, but as I said, I'll let you know.

Dukedesmo · 28-07-2021, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

I'll let you know. I ordered a pair yesterday.
I just couldn't swallow over a hunert quid for a pair mirrors that I don't even know I'll like.

Looks like I'll be adapting them for alloy bars, but it can't be beyond the wit of man?
I wouldn't be surprised if they come out of the same factory as the CRG, but as I said, I'll let you know.

They certainly look OK in the pictures.

As for fitting, on the Monster mine are clamped onto the handlebar rather than a bar end, I needed to move the controls inboard to do it but they're long enough to do so and it stops anything moving.

On my Bicycle I have one fitted to a (motorcycle) bar end as the bars are too short to move the brake lever inboard and it has a tendency to turn inside the bar although I'm sure you could get better fitting bar-ends?

But AFAIK 'fat' bars are only fatter in the centre section, the ends should be the same diameter?

Mr Gazza · 28-07-2021, 11:35 AM

Thanks Tim. My bars are the standard Sie 7/8" or 22mm alloy bars. They are thicker wall than steel. If I remember correctly the 'ole in the middle is about 12mm, so it might just be a matter of some slightly longer bar ends if the mirror body will fit them.

Sorry Howard I seem to have kidnapped your thread! Sorry.

hh93 · 28-07-2021, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

Sorry Howard I seem to have kidnapped your thread! Sorry.

Haha no problem

And the Ones on ebay look very similar !

hh93 · 28-07-2021, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dukedesmo

I needed to move the controls inboard

The Switch Blocks should be pinned so if they are either new holes in the bars or file off the pins that are just moulded into the plastic.

Dukedesmo · 28-07-2021, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hh93

The Switch Blocks should be pinned so if they are either new holes in the bars or file off the pins that are just moulded into the plastic.

I'd already cut the pins off as they prevent moving them to suit and I don't like the idea of drilling the bars.

spuggy · 28-07-2021, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Darren69

Can't believe the price of those CRG mirrors. You must want to see where you've been real bad

Heh. It doesn't take too many M3's overtaking you at 50 over when you're being law-abiding but need to change lanes before you come to the conclusion that admiring your elbows isn't really good enough...

I've ridden bikes without mirrors for years. But on the Monster, my chin hits my shoulder and stops me looking behind enough to be safe.

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Originally Posted by Darren69

Found these that look foldable and at a more sensible price.

Don't know what they're like though.

I put a pair of those on a 900; they're fine. The extra expansion sleeve is not used for thick-wall ally bars (my Dark has 900Sie bars). Other cheap generic bar ends may use a rubber sleeve; these tend to rotate with vibration - the metal sleeve is a more positive mounting IME.

Thing to be careful of is that they're concave mirrors (which the listing you posted was) - otherwise, can be not very useful looking at tiny images in a 3" mirror 2 feet away.

I had several pairs bar of end mirrors, and most were OK in fit/function (beware the very cheap ones). In the end, I reverted to bigger mirrors closer to my line-of-sight. The only reason the stock mirrors are totally useless is because the stalks don't get them out far enough from the perch to see anything but the inside of your elbows...

These don't look flash, but work great - if the stem were ~20mm longer, they'd be about perfect, but they do yield a view directly behind in about 50% of the mirror if suitably adjusted. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303550224455.

Darkness · 28-07-2021, 06:31 PM

Life is hard, but some peoples’ elbows leave something to be desired @Spuggy!

Dukedesmo · 28-07-2021, 11:59 AM

OK, I thought you meant the outside diameter.

I'm sure my Renthal bars on the Monster are fairly thick-walled, certainly thicker than the clip-ons on my other bikes and so needed smaller ID bar-ends.

The picture on that ebay listing appears to show 2 different internal fitments for the bar-ends so may work OK with the smaller ID? Unless you fit them directly to the bars which is what I'd recommend if you can get away with it.

Be interested to see the mirrors though because they are certainly a better price than the CRG.

28-07-2021, 07:18 PM	#1
cactus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dundee Bike: M900ie Posts: 299	Hi and welcome. __________________ Ripsnorting

30-07-2021, 08:38 PM	#2
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,847	Well the cheapo mirrors came this morning and when I got home from the MOT I had a go at fitting them. Quality looks and feels absolutely fine. No instructions, but one comes fully assembled and the other has the mounting bits packed separately so it will fit the dinky box. so just use the assembled one as a guide for the other. The smaller collets are 13mm so should have fitted my alloy bars, but my bars were a tad smaller than that, in fact the original bar ends had been forced in and needed levering carefully out. I ran a 13mm drill bit down the ends of the bars about an inch and a half and the mirrors slid in and then nipped up solidly. Should be plug and play with more up to date alloy bars? They adjust in all planes, then they can be nipped up into position. The flip back action is good and positive, I don't think the Mach 1 blast will fold them back. Not sure about the image though. The field of view is wider and unhindered by elbows but everything looks small. (or far away Dougal!) Also not sure about the new bald, spread-eagled look either? Nor how far further out of my field of forward vision they are. I'll be out and about between (and during) showers this weekend so I'll report back. __________________

28-07-2021, 02:25 AM	#5
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,029	Can't believe the price of those CRG mirrors. You must want to see where you've been real bad Found these that look foldable and at a more sensible price. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353522031...Cclp%3A2047675 Don't know what they're like though. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

28-07-2021, 11:35 AM	#9
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,847	Thanks Tim. My bars are the standard Sie 7/8" or 22mm alloy bars. They are thicker wall than steel. If I remember correctly the 'ole in the middle is about 12mm, so it might just be a matter of some slightly longer bar ends if the mirror body will fit them. Sorry Howard I seem to have kidnapped your thread! Sorry. __________________

28-07-2021, 06:31 PM	#14
Darkness . Join Date: May 2007 Location: Stockbridge Bike: M900 Posts: 1,984	Life is hard, but some peoples’ elbows leave something to be desired @Spuggy! __________________ Original and Best since 1993

31-07-2021, 09:17 AM	#3
hh93 Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Lincoln Bike: M620ie Posts: 116	Well - they look the same as my super expensive ones !!

28-07-2021, 11:59 AM	#15
Dukedesmo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leics Bike: M900 Posts: 2,848	OK, I thought you meant the outside diameter. I'm sure my Renthal bars on the Monster are fairly thick-walled, certainly thicker than the clip-ons on my other bikes and so needed smaller ID bar-ends. The picture on that ebay listing appears to show 2 different internal fitments for the bar-ends so may work OK with the smaller ID? Unless you fit them directly to the bars which is what I'd recommend if you can get away with it. Be interested to see the mirrors though because they are certainly a better price than the CRG. __________________ M900, 916, LeMans II.