Brake Pad Help

Pezz · 20-06-2020, 12:54 PM

So last year had an advisory of possible warped discs and seeing as I've saved money on not going to Italy with Ducati Manchester, missed the weekender, Glastonbury and the summer holiday etc etc I thought I'd treat the bike to new rotors and pads. Rotors are on all great. Ive gone to do the pads and Ive been sent pads that dont look like they match. They are all in correctly labelled packets but as you can see below whilst being the same shape and size the grooves in the braking material isn't the same on the different coloured ones. The black look the same as the ones one the bike - they have little circles in the back. I am wondering if the blue ones are not actuallly what the packet says or if they are maybe a newer design or different pad type. The code on the back of the blue ones matches what is on the packets. Main questionis is it be safe to fit them and if so would you put one of each colour on each side eg blue outside black inside. Or do I need to send one back?

Help!!!

Mr Gazza · 20-06-2020, 01:03 PM

I can spot too many differences to accept that they could both be used in the same caliper!

Not only is the radius at the bottom of the friction material different but the compound looks completely different and that rings alarm bells for me anyway.
I would definitely be having this conversation with the seller for starters.

For what it's worth I'm not that keen on Brembo pads myself. I much prefer EBC organic pads, they are super powerful and kind on the discs. Importantly they are not grabby as some sintered pads can be.

Pezz · 20-06-2020, 01:09 PM

Thanks Gazza - back they go - I'm not messing with brakes

Mr Gazza · 20-06-2020, 01:59 PM

I might be being unnecessarily alarmist, it could be the latest thing in braking technology, but I very much doubt it. Besides which, if it was, there would be some very specific instructions from Brembo as to how to orientate the different pads.... I don't think so?

rollo22 · 20-06-2020, 02:13 PM

Every time my EVO is Motd by ducati it gets a warped front disk advisory.Worth asking them why and by how much. It could be the measuring device is a bit sensitive.

Never with an independent.

ChrisC2925 · 20-06-2020, 02:26 PM

I'd go with MR G on the EBC, Pezz, I had to have a new back set when I changed the tyres. They are also cheaper than Brembo

Mr Gazza · 20-06-2020, 02:38 PM

Worth noting that if you do go for organic pads rather than sintered, then it is recommended that you have organic front and rear and not to mix organic and sintered.

chris.p · 20-06-2020, 10:09 PM

Personally I prefer SBS pads, great initial grip and very good feel.

slob · 21-06-2020, 06:29 AM

The blue ones look like Brembo carbon-ceramic (organic) road pads, the black ones don’t look right to me although they could be oem rather than aftermarket flavour, regardless of what they are I’d want the matching pads in both calipers. No supplier should be sticking mis-matched components in the same order, complain loudly!
With regard to mixing sintered/organic, I’d avoid organic front with sintered rear but as Gaza says matching all round is probably the way to go. As a rule organic offer more feel, sintered more bite.

Nickj · 21-06-2020, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rollo22

Every time my EVO is Motd by ducati it gets a warped front disk advisory.Worth asking them why and by how much. It could be the measuring device is a bit sensitive.

Never with an independent.

I didn't think that they actually measured the disk just felt how the brake was working and also see the rolling road brake effortometer dial waving a little. So it may just be the metal surfacing and how the heat of use has affected it.
The metal can change it's surface structure slightly and give a different braking effort/effect around the rotor, check the run out and see.
Else there's a little warp but not enough for it to be a problem.

20-06-2020, 12:54 PM	#1
Pezz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Liverpool Bike: M1100s Posts: 94	Brake Pad Help So last year had an advisory of possible warped discs and seeing as I've saved money on not going to Italy with Ducati Manchester, missed the weekender, Glastonbury and the summer holiday etc etc I thought I'd treat the bike to new rotors and pads. Rotors are on all great. Ive gone to do the pads and Ive been sent pads that dont look like they match. They are all in correctly labelled packets but as you can see below whilst being the same shape and size the grooves in the braking material isn't the same on the different coloured ones. The black look the same as the ones one the bike - they have little circles in the back. I am wondering if the blue ones are not actuallly what the packet says or if they are maybe a newer design or different pad type. The code on the back of the blue ones matches what is on the packets. Main questionis is it be safe to fit them and if so would you put one of each colour on each side eg blue outside black inside. Or do I need to send one back? Help!!!

20-06-2020, 01:03 PM	#2
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,801	I can spot too many differences to accept that they could both be used in the same caliper! Not only is the radius at the bottom of the friction material different but the compound looks completely different and that rings alarm bells for me anyway. I would definitely be having this conversation with the seller for starters. For what it's worth I'm not that keen on Brembo pads myself. I much prefer EBC organic pads, they are super powerful and kind on the discs. Importantly they are not grabby as some sintered pads can be. __________________

20-06-2020, 01:59 PM	#4
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,801	I might be being unnecessarily alarmist, it could be the latest thing in braking technology, but I very much doubt it. Besides which, if it was, there would be some very specific instructions from Brembo as to how to orientate the different pads.... I don't think so? __________________

20-06-2020, 02:13 PM	#5
rollo22 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Moreton-in-Marsh Bike: M1100evo Posts: 1,082	Every time my EVO is Motd by ducati it gets a warped front disk advisory.Worth asking them why and by how much. It could be the measuring device is a bit sensitive. Never with an independent. __________________ IF ALL ELSE FAILS READ THE INSTRUCTIONS

20-06-2020, 02:38 PM	#7
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,801	Worth noting that if you do go for organic pads rather than sintered, then it is recommended that you have organic front and rear and not to mix organic and sintered. __________________

20-06-2020, 01:09 PM	#3
Pezz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Liverpool Bike: M1100s Posts: 94	Thanks Gazza - back they go - I'm not messing with brakes

20-06-2020, 02:26 PM	#6
ChrisC2925 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ormskirk Bike: M600 Posts: 244	I'd go with MR G on the EBC, Pezz, I had to have a new back set when I changed the tyres. They are also cheaper than Brembo

20-06-2020, 10:09 PM	#8
chris.p Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: lincoln Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 876	Personally I prefer SBS pads, great initial grip and very good feel.

21-06-2020, 06:29 AM	#9
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,707	The blue ones look like Brembo carbon-ceramic (organic) road pads, the black ones don’t look right to me although they could be oem rather than aftermarket flavour, regardless of what they are I’d want the matching pads in both calipers. No supplier should be sticking mis-matched components in the same order, complain loudly! With regard to mixing sintered/organic, I’d avoid organic front with sintered rear but as Gaza says matching all round is probably the way to go. As a rule organic offer more feel, sintered more bite. Last edited by slob; 21-06-2020 at 06:37 AM..