Change of mind

Lessaint · 20-09-2020, 07:10 AM

I was supposed to pick my S4rs Black & Grey up Saturday morning, phone call from the seller Friday night saying the bike was no longer available even though i had left a deposit, so instead of crying in to my sanatogen, it was onto the tinternet followed by a long drive into the Confederacy (Clevedon Southern England) Saturday to pick this beauty up.

Nickj · 20-09-2020, 07:46 AM

That does look nice

Grumpy · 20-09-2020, 08:53 AM

Nice! Great mileage

Darren69 · 20-09-2020, 09:44 AM

That does look nice that one, not as tricked up as the black one though. Did you get your deposit back? That wasn't very good customer service from them, well sh1t in fact.

walkingpictures · 20-09-2020, 10:38 AM

That's bad form to cancel the sale,seems a bit odd considering you had given them a deposit.New one looks good though

Kimbo

Lessaint · 20-09-2020, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren69

That does look nice that one, not as tricked up as the black one though. Did you get your deposit back? That wasn't very good customer service from them, well sh1t in fact.

Darren, they are a car dealer in Brighton "Strafford", 4 hours from me. The bloke said it had been dropped during a shakedown ride before the sale. They refunded my deposit and covered the insurance cancellation, if i were sceptical i would say that they had a better offer and gave me some ****, but hey ho i think i've got a better bike

Luddite · 20-09-2020, 01:52 PM

Congratulations. You certainly seem to have a good nose for sniffing out a nice S4RS! And incredibly low mileage too.

I'm glad you didn't lose out with the cancellation of the first one but you did say the dealer had a bit of a "Mitchell Brothers" vibe so perhaps your instincts were correct!

If you have, in fact, been "gazumped" and the first bike has been sold, then maybe the new owner will join the forum and we'll learn the truth!

Enjoy!

Darren69 · 20-09-2020, 01:55 PM

Yea, it does sound a bit of a tall tale that. I would have said ok, well let me come and see the damage and make you a new offer for it. I've had similar experiences with small car garages selling bikes myself too, but then again I've been lied to by authorised Ducati importer/dealers too. I won't name names but none of them are still in business now so it tells in the end.

If someone did make them a better offer then it couldn't have been that much more as that was pretty much top (overinflated dealer) price for it anyway. I suppose the issue was it was very visible on here so if anyone did want to gazump to it would have been easy. I'd be half tempted to get someone to ring them next week and enquire about it, if it was actually 'sold'?

Glad you got one in the end. What you have is very nice, bone stock very low mileage RS which would appear to be a guaranteed investment bike, that is gonna be better than money in the bank. Enjoy and put some miles on it!

Luddite · 20-09-2020, 01:57 PM

PS are there any bits from your S4, (e.g. Rizoma footrests), you'd like to swap over to the S4RS?

PPS can't believe the warning stickers are still on the seat cowl!

20-09-2020, 02:27 PM

Blimey Les, my heads spinning, that's three great finds,each better than the previous,don't do anything to this one for at least seven days.....you may spot a brand new one "found" at the back of a workshop

Darren69 · 20-09-2020, 03:13 PM

Still in it's crate?

Darren69 · 20-09-2020, 03:20 PM

I don't think the rearsets will swap over easily because the S4r frame the rearsets fix to the swinging arm spindle which they don't on the S4. Also the engine covers may look similar but the Testastretta is a different generation to the DesmoQuattro and in any case I think they changed the water pump so it would not be an easy swap in any case. It might be possible to swap the clutch case cover but why bother? I wouldn't want to make an S4RS bitsa, it would be best IMHO to leave it as it is or just fit genuine DP parts to it (if you can find any?).

slob · 20-09-2020, 03:32 PM

A completely stock S4RS is a bike that might actually increase in value if you don’t mess with it. I’d want to lose the lowered footrests (think I’d start grinding those pretty quickly) and find some stock ones too.

Darren69 · 20-09-2020, 03:42 PM

Yea, my sentiments exactly Rob and well spotted. Nasty Chinese things but probably practical from an orthopaedic standpoint. If you can find some proper DP rearsets like those that were on the black one then that would be a winner chicken dinner. Forza moto might have some tasty S4RS DP stuff in but probably very tasty prices too though unfortunately.

Lessaint · 20-09-2020, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luddite

PS are there any bits from your S4, (e.g. Rizoma footrests), you'd like to swap over to the S4RS?

PPS can't believe the warning stickers are still on the seat cowl!

i am keeping the S4 as it is a high spec bike and looks great, as i am happy with the S4rs except for the dustbin lid and the cans.

20-09-2020, 07:10 AM	#1
Lessaint Registered User Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: New Ollerton Bike: S4Rs Posts: 61	Change of mind I was supposed to pick my S4rs Black & Grey up Saturday morning, phone call from the seller Friday night saying the bike was no longer available even though i had left a deposit, so instead of crying in to my sanatogen, it was onto the tinternet followed by a long drive into the Confederacy (Clevedon Southern England) Saturday to pick this beauty up. Last edited by Lessaint; 20-09-2020 at 07:45 AM..

20-09-2020, 07:46 AM	#2
Nickj Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forest Of Dean Bike: S2r Posts: 3,189	That does look nice __________________ "The final measure of any rider's skill is the inverse ratio of his preferred Traveling Speed to the number of bad scars on his body." Song of the sausage creature

20-09-2020, 08:53 AM	#3
Grumpy record breaker!! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Peterborough Bike: M1200R Posts: 2,154	Nice! Great mileage __________________ It's not the destination, but the journey that matters Definition of a motorbike, a devise for overtaking cars!

20-09-2020, 09:44 AM	#4
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	That does look nice that one, not as tricked up as the black one though. Did you get your deposit back? That wasn't very good customer service from them, well sh1t in fact. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

20-09-2020, 01:55 PM	#8
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	Yea, it does sound a bit of a tall tale that. I would have said ok, well let me come and see the damage and make you a new offer for it. I've had similar experiences with small car garages selling bikes myself too, but then again I've been lied to by authorised Ducati importer/dealers too. I won't name names but none of them are still in business now so it tells in the end. If someone did make them a better offer then it couldn't have been that much more as that was pretty much top (overinflated dealer) price for it anyway. I suppose the issue was it was very visible on here so if anyone did want to gazump to it would have been easy. I'd be half tempted to get someone to ring them next week and enquire about it, if it was actually 'sold'? Glad you got one in the end. What you have is very nice, bone stock very low mileage RS which would appear to be a guaranteed investment bike, that is gonna be better than money in the bank. Enjoy and put some miles on it! __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

20-09-2020, 10:38 AM	#5
walkingpictures preneolithic frebie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cambridge Bike: S4Rs Posts: 319	That's bad form to cancel the sale,seems a bit odd considering you had given them a deposit.New one looks good though Kimbo

20-09-2020, 01:52 PM	#7
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	Congratulations. You certainly seem to have a good nose for sniffing out a nice S4RS! And incredibly low mileage too. I'm glad you didn't lose out with the cancellation of the first one but you did say the dealer had a bit of a "Mitchell Brothers" vibe so perhaps your instincts were correct! If you have, in fact, been "gazumped" and the first bike has been sold, then maybe the new owner will join the forum and we'll learn the truth! Enjoy!

20-09-2020, 01:57 PM	#9
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	PS are there any bits from your S4, (e.g. Rizoma footrests), you'd like to swap over to the S4RS? PPS can't believe the warning stickers are still on the seat cowl!

20-09-2020, 02:27 PM	#10
Moco1961 Guest Posts: n/a	Blimey Les, my heads spinning, that's three great finds,each better than the previous,don't do anything to this one for at least seven days.....you may spot a brand new one "found" at the back of a workshop

20-09-2020, 03:13 PM	#11
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	Still in it's crate? __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

20-09-2020, 03:20 PM	#12
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	I don't think the rearsets will swap over easily because the S4r frame the rearsets fix to the swinging arm spindle which they don't on the S4. Also the engine covers may look similar but the Testastretta is a different generation to the DesmoQuattro and in any case I think they changed the water pump so it would not be an easy swap in any case. It might be possible to swap the clutch case cover but why bother? I wouldn't want to make an S4RS bitsa, it would be best IMHO to leave it as it is or just fit genuine DP parts to it (if you can find any?). __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

20-09-2020, 03:32 PM	#13
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,707	A completely stock S4RS is a bike that might actually increase in value if you don’t mess with it. I’d want to lose the lowered footrests (think I’d start grinding those pretty quickly) and find some stock ones too.

20-09-2020, 03:42 PM	#14
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	Yea, my sentiments exactly Rob and well spotted. Nasty Chinese things but probably practical from an orthopaedic standpoint. If you can find some proper DP rearsets like those that were on the black one then that would be a winner chicken dinner. Forza moto might have some tasty S4RS DP stuff in but probably very tasty prices too though unfortunately. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage