Monster Project (Refresh)

[Yorkie]

Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

You're solving all the problems and it's turning into a neat, well thought out bike.

It looks obvious that you won't be using an airbox. It seems to me that there is now an opportunity to mount the battery below your new "X" brace ( A sealed gel type, laid down.)
With your ECU very nicely mounted under the seat, that leaves the under tank cavity competely empty.
I'm not sure what sort of tank you will be using, but if it's a Monster one, then it would be possible to do something I have always wanted to do.....Blank off the cavity with a welded in plate to dramatically increase the capacity.

The cavity would need large holes drilled above the plate so that it filled and flowed, but it would remain in place to act as a baffle and still carry the pump and filter.

Of course I have no idea how you will be using this bike, so I don't know if extra range would be any advantage to you...Personally I wouldn't be able to resist it...

Right that's all I need more good ideas!

I like your thinking, I will speak to my man in two weeks time (when I work on it again) and mention your suggestion.

Yorkie

[Mr Gazza]

Oopps...Sorry Yorkie...

..And you went to all the trouble to preserve the battery mounting lugs..!
If you did put the battery inside the frame, then you could do away with the original lugs and replace the lateral brace a bit futher back. Which in turn would negate the need for a cruxiform brace...That could be reduced to a single diagonal to improve access for the battery (Didn't the 888 have a single diagonal there, which was omitted on the Monster?).

Note that I have not done this conversion, but I always pictured the new flat bottom of the tank to have stiffening channels stamped in...The side of a jerry can springs to mind..

Holes in the top of the cavity would be needed to let air out as it filled. So why not make another improvement, and make a big hole directly under the filler, so the nozzle can go into it when filling up?...I for one find it really challenging when filling up, to stop petrol splashing back out, off the bottom of the tank....The nozzle only goes in a couple of inches and then the petrol ricochets off all the pipes in there..!!

[Yorkie]

Even with the intakes where they are the battery box fits nicely where it should. I will have to shave some of the plastic away for the foam air filter but nothing dramatic.

I will now however have a look at your suggestion, I like the idea of greater capacity whilst maintaining the original shape of the tank.

As with all my projects they change direction on a regular basis!! Damn the good ideas clubs!!

Yorkie

[Saint aka ML]

Yorkie how will you mount air filters on those throttle bodies?

I am having bit of an issue there and stuck for ideas.

For coils get Calyfornia cycle works set, worth every penny, especially if you have high compression pistons.

Ten mount them to front of your air-box.

[Yorkie]

Originally Posted by Saint aka ML

Yorkie how will you mount air filters on those throttle bodies?

I am going to use sock air filters not solid K&N ones. I have used UNI filters before and that sort of soft filter would work well. Piper X do some as well:

http://www.thepipercrossshop.co.uk/u..._p23375757.htm

http://www.thepipercrossshop.co.uk/u..._p23375756.htm

Yorkie

[Yorkie]

There are some RAMAIR sock filters on eBay at the moment for £17.50.

The same seller is doing some for £12.50, bargain.

Yorkie

[Saint aka ML]

Do they not need adapters as injected throttle bodies face almost opposite way from each other? That is where I am stuck.

[Yorkie]

What are you mounting them to? I am using alloy trumpets like these:



So the sock filter will slip over the top and be secured by a tie-wrap.

Yorkie

[Saint aka ML]

Ah that is what I am missing but I have no space for trumpets as I still have cross bar.

Currently I am mounted like this but it has issues fitting under thank (mind you loom and my loom holder is of bigger concern right now).



I am using original IE rubber mount that attach throttle body to airbox on the right side body (vertical).
It creates a 60 degree angle. One end goes on top of Throttle body as designed. 2nd end has a Caravan Trailer AC adapter that changes the diameter to I think 45mm (same is at throttle body) and filter goes on top. Just slightly sticks out though which is my concern.

Maybe I will get MADASL to do me a one off trumpet with correct angle.

[Yorkie]

Carbon and trick:

http://www.reverie.ltd.uk/product_de...code=R01SE0058

Yorkie

[Yorkie]

Got some thing back from Mark at MADASL:



Just need to finish it off.

Yorkie

[Yorkie]

This weekend should (if all goes to plan) be the strip down and fettle for powder coating! Last weekend I managed to sort out some air filter problems with my usual brute force and ignorance.

I got some foam filters direct from RAMAIR for just over £12 including postage (bargain), I then cut them to size and covered up the fantastic looking alloy intakes:





Job done. Then it was the battery box, that now didn't fit. A quick trim with a big saw and job is done:



With the rubber base fitted the battery fits like a dream and doesn't touch the filter.

Yorkie

[Albie]

Pfft !

All the originality of parts abused lol

Keep going mate its a great project.

[Yorkie]

I am looking at what colour the silicone water pipers should be:

Red (too much red because of the frame and wheels)
Blue (might look a bit weird)
Black (might be the best look)

What do you think?

Yorkie

[Albie]

Originally Posted by Yorkie

I am looking at what colour the silicone water pipers should be:

Red (too much red because of the frame and wheels)
Blue (might look a bit weird)
Black (might be the best look)

What do you think?

Yorkie

Black is safe but if there is a red scheme in the bike I would consider that just as highlights or blue if was maybe black or a white scheme in paint which it seems not to be the case.