Modified S4RS

350TSS · 11-03-2021, 07:06 PM

https://www.pipeburn.com/spellbindin...albike-garage/

Jez900ie · 11-03-2021, 08:32 PM

I rather like that, maybe I'd like a different exhaust but really a nice job.

Flip · 11-03-2021, 09:40 PM

Nice work I’m sure, but who’s going to tell them that they’ve fitted the Monza filler cap the wrong way round?

Mr Gazza · 11-03-2021, 10:09 PM

So which is the right way round Flip? Norton fitted them both ways on Commandos.

Yes I would agree it is modified.

Flip · 12-03-2021, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

So which is the right way round Flip? Norton fitted them both ways on Commandos.

Well I confess I’m no expert but I’ve only ever seen them fitted so they open away from the rider.

While I was classic racing they introduced that an ‘R’ clip was fitted on the latch preventing them from accidentally coming open during a tumble or after a heavy landing over the Mountain at Cadwell which apparently happened.

Darren69 · 12-03-2021, 08:16 AM

Overall a nice job but the fuel cap looks wrong/doesn't suit and the lines under the tank/seat unit could be better and for goodness sake fit some mudguards!

350TSS · 12-03-2021, 08:50 AM

I always look at the custom bikes but usually discount my appreciation of them if they are not properly road equipped, mudguards, number plate mounting brackets, etc. I suspect this particular example will have an extremely small tank if all the electrics, battery, etc are under the tank with the already large airbox

Darren69 · 12-03-2021, 10:59 AM

I agree. The tank will be smaller because of the shape of the top rear of it, but probably not by that much. The back of the tank and front of the seat need to be an inch or so lower. And why leave the rear footrest mounts if there is no provision for a pillion? having read the text I would also question the descision to fitt smaller throttle bodies in order to put all the wiring under the tank.

Others have criticised the exhausts but I quite like the layout but again the lines of the top one could be improved. And the clocks just look wrong, wrong height and angle.

Just look at the top lines of the bike from the rear to the front, they just don't look right to me, so if I were commissioning that particular build it would be a 'reject' from me for the above mentioned issues. Otherwise the metalwork skills are top draw.

Dirty · 12-03-2021, 05:21 PM

Get rid of the olde worlde stuff, modernise those areas and it would be a beast.

Practicality is irrelevant for custom builds. No one is using this to go to work or deliver just eats!

utopia · 13-03-2021, 06:24 PM

I think its a bit too simplistic to say that practicality doesn't matter on a custom bike.
I really depends on your point of view.
The alternative perspective says that its too easy to score visual points by neglecting practicality.
Neither is "correct" and I suspect that most people have a viewpoint that lies somewhere between the two .. or perhaps more likely, they have a broad overview which can encompass both.
Personally I tend towards the "practicality" perspective and I like to see a custom which can actually perform as a real world motorcycle.
In my opinion, designs which neglect this aspect are more about painting a pretty picture than building a bike.
However I can still appreciate these pretty pictures (to some extent) but their beauty is often only skin deep.
They are perhaps less a motorcycle, more an art form.
And art is fine, particularly on a motorcycle, but I'm a motorcyclist and therefore I like bikes more than pretty pictures.
I guess I prefer it when form and function combine in a glorious whole that is greater than the sum of its parts, rather than when an awesome veneer disguises a disparate mechanical assemblage.

I often refrain from commenting on customs because I worry that folk will find it tiresome that I'm always carping on about a lack of mudguards, belt covers etc.
So this time I've tried to explain my reasoning.
Maybe in future I'll just refer obliquely back to this post, with comments such as "I like this bike .. notwithstanding the Utopia Corollary"

350TSS · 14-03-2021, 04:24 AM

^^^^ well said I am in your camp

11-03-2021, 07:06 PM	#1
350TSS Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Shipbourne Bike: M900 Posts: 1,419	Modified S4RS https://www.pipeburn.com/spellbindin...albike-garage/

11-03-2021, 08:32 PM	#2
Jez900ie Pleasantly surprised! Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Stoke on Trent Bike: M900ie Posts: 780	I rather like that, maybe I'd like a different exhaust but really a nice job. __________________ Monsters don't hide under the bed, they sleep inside the shed

11-03-2021, 09:40 PM	#3
Flip Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beachtown Bike: M900 Posts: 2,188	Nice work I’m sure, but who’s going to tell them that they’ve fitted the Monza filler cap the wrong way round? __________________ You're perfect, yes, it's true- But without me you're only you! Last edited by Flip; 11-03-2021 at 09:43 PM..

11-03-2021, 10:09 PM	#4
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,814	So which is the right way round Flip? Norton fitted them both ways on Commandos. Yes I would agree it is modified. __________________

12-03-2021, 08:16 AM	#6
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,023	Overall a nice job but the fuel cap looks wrong/doesn't suit and the lines under the tank/seat unit could be better and for goodness sake fit some mudguards! __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

12-03-2021, 08:50 AM	#7
350TSS Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Shipbourne Bike: M900 Posts: 1,419	I always look at the custom bikes but usually discount my appreciation of them if they are not properly road equipped, mudguards, number plate mounting brackets, etc. I suspect this particular example will have an extremely small tank if all the electrics, battery, etc are under the tank with the already large airbox

12-03-2021, 10:59 AM	#8
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,023	I agree. The tank will be smaller because of the shape of the top rear of it, but probably not by that much. The back of the tank and front of the seat need to be an inch or so lower. And why leave the rear footrest mounts if there is no provision for a pillion? having read the text I would also question the descision to fitt smaller throttle bodies in order to put all the wiring under the tank. Others have criticised the exhausts but I quite like the layout but again the lines of the top one could be improved. And the clocks just look wrong, wrong height and angle. Just look at the top lines of the bike from the rear to the front, they just don't look right to me, so if I were commissioning that particular build it would be a 'reject' from me for the above mentioned issues. Otherwise the metalwork skills are top draw. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

12-03-2021, 05:21 PM	#9
Dirty Bockloks Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 4,601	Get rid of the olde worlde stuff, modernise those areas and it would be a beast. Practicality is irrelevant for custom builds. No one is using this to go to work or deliver just eats! __________________ Wounds heal, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever Beware of eBay

13-03-2021, 06:24 PM	#10
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	I think its a bit too simplistic to say that practicality doesn't matter on a custom bike. I really depends on your point of view. The alternative perspective says that its too easy to score visual points by neglecting practicality. Neither is "correct" and I suspect that most people have a viewpoint that lies somewhere between the two .. or perhaps more likely, they have a broad overview which can encompass both. Personally I tend towards the "practicality" perspective and I like to see a custom which can actually perform as a real world motorcycle. In my opinion, designs which neglect this aspect are more about painting a pretty picture than building a bike. However I can still appreciate these pretty pictures (to some extent) but their beauty is often only skin deep. They are perhaps less a motorcycle, more an art form. And art is fine, particularly on a motorcycle, but I'm a motorcyclist and therefore I like bikes more than pretty pictures. I guess I prefer it when form and function combine in a glorious whole that is greater than the sum of its parts, rather than when an awesome veneer disguises a disparate mechanical assemblage. I often refrain from commenting on customs because I worry that folk will find it tiresome that I'm always carping on about a lack of mudguards, belt covers etc. So this time I've tried to explain my reasoning. Maybe in future I'll just refer obliquely back to this post, with comments such as "I like this bike .. notwithstanding the Utopia Corollary"

14-03-2021, 04:24 AM	#11
350TSS Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Shipbourne Bike: M900 Posts: 1,419	^^^^ well said I am in your camp