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Old 08-10-2015, 06:50 AM   #1
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I'm quite happy with the bolts to be honest. If at some point I'm twiddling my thumbs I might remove the marking. But I have other things to sort out. Next on the list is tidying up the front mudguard and the underside of the tank (little spots of surface rust).
I'm just pleased with the lovely comments.
In terms of this rebuild, any braking or suspension replacement fasteners have been high tensile BZP... Not worth risking it...
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Old 08-10-2015, 10:57 AM   #2
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Actually the spec in the S4 workshop manual allows for a +/- 5% tolerance of 24nm so maybe they would be ok at the lower end 22.8nm?
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Old 08-10-2015, 07:23 PM   #3
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Sorry, but quoting from my emails doesn't make me an expert....You just read the extent of my knowledge..

Westfield's Matt Naish said that the M8 x 16 A2-70 bolt would torque to 17nm, and that's a long way short of the 25nm that my manual states.
I made my own decision not to use A2-70 for that application based on his trusted advise.

Look at the numbers and make your own mind up.

Those Titanium,Torx socket, button heads bolts look the absolute last word. Sorry I haven't a clue what the grades mean for Ti bolts, but at least the vendor states the grade clearly. Unlike the vendor of the Stainless ones...I had to zoom in on the picture to read the stamps on the heads.
Perhaps Kato, Capo or Garry could throw some light on the grades?

Just discovered that i have 18 x A4-80 Stainless M8 16mm Socket Head Cap Screws.
Up for grabs for £8 + £3 postage if anyone wants them....They are as bought , un-polished.!
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Old 08-10-2015, 09:50 PM   #4
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Sorry, but quoting from my emails doesn't make me an expert....You just read the extent of my knowledge..

Westfield's Matt Naish said that the M8 x 16 A2-70 bolt would torque to 17nm, and that's a long way short of the 25nm that my manual states.
I made my own decision not to use A2-70 for that application based on his trusted advise.

Look at the numbers and make your own mind up.

Those Titanium,Torx socket, button heads bolts look the absolute last word. Sorry I haven't a clue what the grades mean for Ti bolts, but at least the vendor states the grade clearly. Unlike the vendor of the Stainless ones...I had to zoom in on the picture to read the stamps on the heads.
Perhaps Kato, Capo or Garry could throw some light on the grades?

Just discovered that i have 18 x A4-80 Stainless M8 16mm Socket Head Cap Screws.
Up for grabs for £8 + £3 postage if anyone wants them....They are as bought , un-polished.!
I'm no expert either more well informed after reading your post and well if I don't get the titanium ones they sound ideal. I will ask Durhamducs if they can withstand 24nm +5% and then I will be happier.
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Old 15-10-2015, 09:17 AM   #5
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Done a fair few runs on the monster now and it's going great. Forgot how fun these are. Out of curiosity what do you think this monster is worth? Full service history, 15k miles, engine re-work and condition etc? Obviously depends on what someone is willing to pay...
I'm not sure and wondered what the guru's thought...
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Old 15-10-2015, 09:46 AM   #6
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Done a fair few runs on the monster now and it's going great. Forgot how fun these are. Out of curiosity what do you think this monster is worth? Full service history, 15k miles, engine re-work and condition etc? Obviously depends on what someone is willing to pay...
I'm not sure and wondered what the guru's thought...
It's a buyers market but the older and nicer condition can command 2500 plus. I won't be selling mine but I would want 3000 plus because it will not need anything repaired or refinished and will be looking as good as new.
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