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Old 16-12-2018, 06:56 AM   #1
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I started to think about the tank mould and quickly realised I had a problem, when making the pattern I had assumed that the filler bolted through the visible tank top surface. Stupid really as I only had to open the filler cap to see how it worked. The filler cap has no connection with the outer surface of the tank but rather is bolted to a recessed enclosure about 15mm below the surface. This would be impossible to incorporate into my tank pattern as it now sits.
I considered manufacturing a new plate to bolt to the top surface but this would have involved accurately cross drilling the surface plate to take the hinge pin for the cap itself.
I would also have to make up the neck that the cap locates into and seals against and this would have to be at the right height viz a viz the tank surface or the cap would not sit flush or more importantly seal. Looking at the cap itself there a number of critical dimensions measured from the tank surface, depth of mounting lugs, point of engagement of the filler cap in the neck, compressed depth of the sealing ring, depth of lip for engagement of locking latch. Manufacturing a new plate to hold the filler cap was not going to end well.
I therefore had to find a way of manufacturing the recess that I could bond into the tank after the top skin had been manufactured but before the tank base was also bonded to the tank top surface.
Scouring the garage for something suitable to make a mould from I came across a pot I keep all my chuck keys in which was exactly the same diameter as the filler cap plate.

I re-cycled some 3mm polypropylene from one of the belt cover moulds and I now have a reasonable facsimile of the original steel tank recess with a nice big flange to bond into the new CF tank when it gets made.

I cut the polypropylene with a jigsaw with a fine toothed metal cutting blade in. The polypropylene was melting with the passage of the blade then re-forming behind the blade so I had to go round each circle about 3 times before they parted company.
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Old 16-12-2018, 09:26 AM   #2
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This would be impossible to incorporate into my tank pattern as it now sits.
Not so.

You could make a male version of the recess on your lathe, from a piece of MDF of appropriate thickness.
This would then need to be shaped to the gentle contour of the inside of the mould, where it sits.
It could be highly finished in vitro as it were. You could then hold it in place on the bolted up mould halves with a couple of small screws from the outside. (don't forget to remove these before release!)
Then apply a small radius of plasticine round the joint.
Plasticine is great stuff for adding radii and fiddly bits inside finished moulds. Composite suppliers sell the stuff cheaply for that purpose. You can also get dumbbells to form radii of different radius
These are usually made in stainless steel and are literally just balls of differing diameter connected in pairs by a rod. They make a good enough finish on soft plasticine to pass on the finished moulding... Maybe with just a quick compounding?

You could still add internal radii on any of your existing moulds this way to aid release.

Just found an image for you and was reminded that these are used for pressing in wax fillets...Wax fillets of different radii are also available from your composite supplier..

Obviously plasticine and wax fillets are one use only and need to be cleaned off and re applied each time the mould is prepared.

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