S4 Challenge time capsule

Darren69 · 19-01-2018, 06:03 PM

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUCATI-MO...QAAOSwZ3BaVh~K

Kato · 20-01-2018, 09:51 AM

That is not a challenge seat and nor is that a challenge crash cage, not sure where that fellow got his info but its wrong.

http://suprememotos.com/ducati/52390...-race-kit.html

Same bike only cheaper

Darren69 · 20-01-2018, 10:30 AM

I know the seat is a DP solo one. He says the original unused hump and fairing are with the bike. Don't know about the crash cage. Were they fitted with slipper clutches? Thats news to me.

Mr Gazza · 20-01-2018, 05:01 PM

I've got a feeling smiffyraf bumped into this guy at a filling station last Summer, and took some photos of thier two bikes together... I'll try and find the post.

Mr Gazza · 20-01-2018, 05:04 PM

That was easy... Pretty sure this is the one. Note the red reservoir muffs.
http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=55325

smiffyraf1 · 21-01-2018, 08:24 AM

it is one and the same. was a lovely bike and am quite surprised her is selling it. he did say the seat was the one thing that had been changed. the crash cage to me looks the same as all the pics ive seen of the challenge bikes. what is different Kato?

maxxjod · 23-01-2018, 09:48 PM

Same bike but wildly different milages!!

smiffyraf1 · 24-01-2018, 08:01 AM

?? why wildly different? oh hold on do you mean the add that kato posted? pretty sure thats the original add from when the fella that is selling it now bought it. definitely looks like italia moto in the background.

Darren69 · 24-01-2018, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smiffyraf1

?? why wildly different? oh hold on do you mean the add that kato posted? pretty sure thats the original add from when the fella that is selling it now bought it. definitely looks like italia moto in the background.

That's what I thought too.

Strokersmoke · 26-01-2018, 08:08 PM

Hi, I've just got back from holiday and seen the thread so I thought I ought to clear up a few issues.

Firstly, Kato is correct, it isn't a Challenge seat. The Challenge bikes had a standard dual seat with the giant carbon hump. I had forgotten that mine had been changed by the first owner, albeit for a fantastic piece of kit.
The radiator protector frame is a genuine challenge item, however.

Kato's link is the original advert from Italia Moto. Mileage, just over 600, which is why the bike looks new, but of course all the recommissioning had not been done at that stage. I've owned the bike for three years and have done around 2000 miles since then. It still looks new.

Thanks to smiffyraf1 for getting it right!

The seat hump and front fairing look brand new and bear the same numbers as the series winning bike. I suspect that these were stickered up for display purposes after the series ended. They don't look like they have ever done any road, never mind race mileage. I will try to attach some pictures. if I fail, (as before) if anyone is interested I'll send them via email.

I am genuinely giving up biking which is why I'm selling and it has been a very hard decision to arrive at, although I have been known to relapse on occasions.

I hope this helps to clarify some of the uncertainty.

Darren69 · 26-01-2018, 08:15 PM

Cool bike! Good luck with the sale.

Strokersmoke · 27-01-2018, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren69

Cool bike! Good luck with the sale.

Thanks, Darren.
I made a mess of the ebay listing and set it to appear a week before I got back from holiday, rather than the day I got back, which hasn't helped! I've made a couple of amendments to the listing now.
It's had over 800 views and over 40 watchers, so I hope it goes to a good home.
It's a pretty unique bike.

Strokersmoke · 30-01-2018, 07:15 PM

Now sold.
Regretting it already!

slob · 30-01-2018, 09:43 PM

I wish we’d found this bike when we were putting together the 20th anniversary display for the NEC... although we did manage to find a Foggy for the S4 slot.

Strokersmoke · 08-02-2018, 03:08 PM

I wish I'd known about it, it would have been a pleasure to have it on display.

Just as an aside, several people had asked me what number bike it was (of the 30 that were race prepared) and I didn't have a clue. That is, until I looked closely at the documentation and spare keys when I sold it. The stock tag on the spare stated "MS4 Challenge 30" and the red key had the number 30 in black marker pen on both sides. I know that Ducati had difficulty in achieving a full grid so there may be more of these bikes that were never raced hidden away somewhere!

19-01-2018, 06:03 PM	#1
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	S4 Challenge time capsule https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUCATI-MO...QAAOSwZ3BaVh~K __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

20-01-2018, 09:51 AM	#2
Kato Dismantled Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: East Molesey Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,222	That is not a challenge seat and nor is that a challenge crash cage, not sure where that fellow got his info but its wrong. http://suprememotos.com/ducati/52390...-race-kit.html Same bike only cheaper __________________ "Political correctness is just intellectual colonialism and psychological fascism for the creation of thought crime" Last edited by Kato; 20-01-2018 at 09:57 AM..

20-01-2018, 10:30 AM	#3
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	I know the seat is a DP solo one. He says the original unused hump and fairing are with the bike. Don't know about the crash cage. Were they fitted with slipper clutches? Thats news to me. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

20-01-2018, 05:01 PM	#4
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,801	I've got a feeling smiffyraf bumped into this guy at a filling station last Summer, and took some photos of thier two bikes together... I'll try and find the post. __________________

20-01-2018, 05:04 PM	#5
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,801	That was easy... Pretty sure this is the one. Note the red reservoir muffs. http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=55325 __________________

21-01-2018, 08:24 AM	#6
smiffyraf1 Silver Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lincoln Bike: M1000ie Posts: 594	it is one and the same. was a lovely bike and am quite surprised her is selling it. he did say the seat was the one thing that had been changed. the crash cage to me looks the same as all the pics ive seen of the challenge bikes. what is different Kato?

23-01-2018, 09:48 PM	#7
maxxjod Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brighton Bike: M750 Posts: 146	Same bike but wildly different milages!!

24-01-2018, 08:01 AM	#8
smiffyraf1 Silver Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lincoln Bike: M1000ie Posts: 594	?? why wildly different? oh hold on do you mean the add that kato posted? pretty sure thats the original add from when the fella that is selling it now bought it. definitely looks like italia moto in the background.

26-01-2018, 08:08 PM	#10
Strokersmoke Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Lincoln Bike: S4 Posts: 9	Clarification Hi, I've just got back from holiday and seen the thread so I thought I ought to clear up a few issues. Firstly, Kato is correct, it isn't a Challenge seat. The Challenge bikes had a standard dual seat with the giant carbon hump. I had forgotten that mine had been changed by the first owner, albeit for a fantastic piece of kit. The radiator protector frame is a genuine challenge item, however. Kato's link is the original advert from Italia Moto. Mileage, just over 600, which is why the bike looks new, but of course all the recommissioning had not been done at that stage. I've owned the bike for three years and have done around 2000 miles since then. It still looks new. Thanks to smiffyraf1 for getting it right! The seat hump and front fairing look brand new and bear the same numbers as the series winning bike. I suspect that these were stickered up for display purposes after the series ended. They don't look like they have ever done any road, never mind race mileage. I will try to attach some pictures. if I fail, (as before) if anyone is interested I'll send them via email. I am genuinely giving up biking which is why I'm selling and it has been a very hard decision to arrive at, although I have been known to relapse on occasions. I hope this helps to clarify some of the uncertainty.

26-01-2018, 08:15 PM	#11
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	Cool bike! Good luck with the sale. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

30-01-2018, 07:15 PM	#13
Strokersmoke Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Lincoln Bike: S4 Posts: 9	Now sold. Regretting it already!

30-01-2018, 09:43 PM	#14
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,708	I wish we’d found this bike when we were putting together the 20th anniversary display for the NEC... although we did manage to find a Foggy for the S4 slot.

08-02-2018, 03:08 PM	#15
Strokersmoke Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Lincoln Bike: S4 Posts: 9	I wish I'd known about it, it would have been a pleasure to have it on display. Just as an aside, several people had asked me what number bike it was (of the 30 that were race prepared) and I didn't have a clue. That is, until I looked closely at the documentation and spare keys when I sold it. The stock tag on the spare stated "MS4 Challenge 30" and the red key had the number 30 in black marker pen on both sides. I know that Ducati had difficulty in achieving a full grid so there may be more of these bikes that were never raced hidden away somewhere!