Alternative headlamps...

Jez900ie · 07-01-2017, 03:33 PM

From reading threads here, the impression I get is the standard headlamp fall a little short of ideal.

There are other options available, but anyone have specific recommendations?

Has anyone bought/ tried one of these?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1623163526...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

smiffyraf1 · 07-01-2017, 04:16 PM

Have been looking at this myself recently. just that my lens has been cracked by a stone and wanted to try something different but would not change the look of the bike. i was tempted to get a unit from a scrambler to see what that is like. not keen on the dual 'streetfighter' type

Mr Gazza · 07-01-2017, 05:11 PM

I like the way that the 10mtr/yard marker is illuminated in the first picture of the dipped beam pattern.
The main beam seems to have more penetration too, but it isn't clear what the comparison pictures are of?

Be aware that the light unit will not fit straight into the Monster shell or rim.
It says in the blurb that you will need another shell, so it's all starting to work out rather expensive.
The shell will need M8 threads in either side and will also require a couple of spacers to make up the width to fit within the Monster headlamp brackets.

Jez900ie · 07-01-2017, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

I like the way that the 10mtr/yard marker is illuminated in the first picture of the dipped beam pattern.
The main beam seems to have more penetration too, but it isn't clear what the comparison pictures are of?

Be aware that the light unit will not fit straight into the Monster shell or rim.
It says in the blurb that you will need another shell, so it's all starting to work out rather expensive.
The shell will need M8 threads in either side and will also require a couple of spacers to make up the width to fit within the Monster headlamp brackets.

The light does seem to offer great illumination, but it would be good to know which light is featured in the comparisons!

The pricing isn't too bad until you realise that the casing doubles the cost. There must be a similar unit thats cheaper?

Darren69 · 07-01-2017, 06:34 PM

It's a shame it doesn't fit the original monster headlamp shell, or will it?

It looks quite good on a monster:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/Motor..._qi=RTM2063729

Mr Gazza · 07-01-2017, 07:18 PM

It won't fit a Monster rim as Monsters have a weird continental size lamp.
They only seem to appear on Monsters and old BMW R100 ect.

I do have a cunning plan to make an adapter to covert the Monster to take standard 7" lamp units... What that looks like remains to be seen.

In the mean time I have ordered one of these for evaluation, as it's only a tenner.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-inch-Mot...3D162341443978

I will probably bin the reflector and glass from it... There's no pilot light anyway.
The thing is it will open the floodgates to any 7" reflector/lens unit and also choice of bulb fitment, i.e. H4 or whatever or even LED.

That LED unit would probably fit into one of those Jez if you binned the rim that comes with it.

Jez900ie · 07-01-2017, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

That LED unit would probably fit into one of those Jez if you binned the rim that comes with it.

You will have to let me know what its like once you have received it.

Mr Gazza · 07-01-2017, 07:45 PM

Will do..

Mr Gazza · 07-01-2017, 07:57 PM

.... You mean this adapter?

http://motowheels.com/i-13578432-cor...sion-ring.html

It's something like this that I have in mind, but not for $100 plus postage, plus VAT, plus custom duty, plus exchange rate.

More like made in my shed with a router..

Cousin it · 07-01-2017, 07:42 PM

I have the jw speaker version of this light unit fitted to my s4r, corse dynamics do an adaptor ring that fits between the light unit and the bezel, I had to replace the standard retaining clips with some lucas ones to hold the light unit securely in place, the jw speaker unit is the same one that motodemic supply with their kit and it is very bright.

jerry · 10-01-2017, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

It won't fit a Monster rim as Monsters have a weird continental size lamp.
They only seem to appear on Monsters and old BMW R100 ect.

I do have a cunning plan to make an adapter to covert the Monster to take standard 7" lamp units... What that looks like remains to be seen.

In the mean time I have ordered one of these for evaluation, as it's only a tenner.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-inch-Mot...3D162341443978

I will probably bin the reflector and glass from it... There's no pilot light anyway.
The thing is it will open the floodgates to any 7" reflector/lens unit and also choice of bulb fitment, i.e. H4 or whatever or even LED.

That LED unit would probably fit into one of those Jez if you binned the rim that comes with it.

Gaz the cheap £10 chinky one you have ordered are crap , poor beam even with phillips extreme bulbs and also no 8mm locking rivet nuts built in so the lamp slips all the time , i have used them in my experiments and dont rate them at all

Mr Gazza · 11-01-2017, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry

Gaz the cheap £10 chinky one you have ordered are crap

You're absolutely right dear boy.... I didn't even properly unwrap it.. It's going straight back where it came from..

Jez900ie · 08-01-2017, 11:00 AM

Cousin It - thanks for the link.

Kato · 11-01-2017, 07:11 PM

Jeff I think its really simple stupid expensive bulbs do make a little difference but the light will never be any good as the std reflector is total SH1T

Darren69 · 08-01-2017, 01:57 PM

Given the popularity of these lights on 80's BM's and Lavs and Ducs I'm surprised there isn't something available more reasonably priced for us this side of the pond. I'd be interested since I want a better light but want to keep my C/f bowl and bezel.

07-01-2017, 03:33 PM	#1
Jez900ie Pleasantly surprised! Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Stoke on Trent Bike: M900ie Posts: 780	Alternative headlamps... From reading threads here, the impression I get is the standard headlamp fall a little short of ideal. There are other options available, but anyone have specific recommendations? Has anyone bought/ tried one of these? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1623163526...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT __________________ Monsters don't hide under the bed, they sleep inside the shed Last edited by Jez900ie; 15-07-2018 at 04:27 PM..

07-01-2017, 05:11 PM	#3
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,806	I like the way that the 10mtr/yard marker is illuminated in the first picture of the dipped beam pattern. The main beam seems to have more penetration too, but it isn't clear what the comparison pictures are of? Be aware that the light unit will not fit straight into the Monster shell or rim. It says in the blurb that you will need another shell, so it's all starting to work out rather expensive. The shell will need M8 threads in either side and will also require a couple of spacers to make up the width to fit within the Monster headlamp brackets. __________________

07-01-2017, 06:34 PM	#5
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	It's a shame it doesn't fit the original monster headlamp shell, or will it? It looks quite good on a monster:- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/Motor..._qi=RTM2063729 __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

07-01-2017, 07:18 PM	#6
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,806	It won't fit a Monster rim as Monsters have a weird continental size lamp. They only seem to appear on Monsters and old BMW R100 ect. I do have a cunning plan to make an adapter to covert the Monster to take standard 7" lamp units... What that looks like remains to be seen. In the mean time I have ordered one of these for evaluation, as it's only a tenner. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-inch-Mot...3D162341443978 I will probably bin the reflector and glass from it... There's no pilot light anyway. The thing is it will open the floodgates to any 7" reflector/lens unit and also choice of bulb fitment, i.e. H4 or whatever or even LED. That LED unit would probably fit into one of those Jez if you binned the rim that comes with it. __________________

07-01-2017, 07:45 PM	#8
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,806	Will do.. __________________ Last edited by Mr Gazza; 07-01-2017 at 07:54 PM..

07-01-2017, 04:16 PM	#2
smiffyraf1 Silver Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lincoln Bike: M1000ie Posts: 594	Have been looking at this myself recently. just that my lens has been cracked by a stone and wanted to try something different but would not change the look of the bike. i was tempted to get a unit from a scrambler to see what that is like. not keen on the dual 'streetfighter' type

07-01-2017, 07:57 PM	#9
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,806	.... You mean this adapter? http://motowheels.com/i-13578432-cor...sion-ring.html It's something like this that I have in mind, but not for $100 plus postage, plus VAT, plus custom duty, plus exchange rate. More like made in my shed with a router.. __________________

07-01-2017, 07:42 PM	#10
Cousin it Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: plymouth Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 62	I have the jw speaker version of this light unit fitted to my s4r, corse dynamics do an adaptor ring that fits between the light unit and the bezel, I had to replace the standard retaining clips with some lucas ones to hold the light unit securely in place, the jw speaker unit is the same one that motodemic supply with their kit and it is very bright. __________________ 04 S4R 15 821

08-01-2017, 11:00 AM	#13
Jez900ie Pleasantly surprised! Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Stoke on Trent Bike: M900ie Posts: 780	Cousin It - thanks for the link. __________________ Monsters don't hide under the bed, they sleep inside the shed

11-01-2017, 07:11 PM	#14
Kato Dismantled Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: East Molesey Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,222	Jeff I think its really simple stupid expensive bulbs do make a little difference but the light will never be any good as the std reflector is total SH1T __________________ "Political correctness is just intellectual colonialism and psychological fascism for the creation of thought crime"

08-01-2017, 01:57 PM	#15
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	Given the popularity of these lights on 80's BM's and Lavs and Ducs I'm surprised there isn't something available more reasonably priced for us this side of the pond. I'd be interested since I want a better light but want to keep my C/f bowl and bezel. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage