Quick release fuel connector?

sram · 28-12-2017, 02:47 PM

I wondered if anyone used quick release fuel connectors to make removing the fuel tank easier? I have just ordered these:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUICK-REL...72.m2749.l2649

I am hoping the quality is ok. Reviews seem positive.

This is for my M600 and I'm hoping to be able to fit these between the fuel tap and the tank outlet in order to make removing the tank less of a faff. The tank has to be removed for so many operations on the bike and so I thought this may make jobs requiring it that little bit nicer.

Darren69 · 28-12-2017, 03:01 PM

Yes, I did the same on mine but they were the white plastic ones the same as DP used but at a fraction of the price. I would think they'd be ok since you're not dealing with the fuel pressure on non IE bikes like mine and mine have been fine, no issues for the last 3-4 years.

28-12-2017, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sram

I am hoping the quality is ok. Reviews seem positive.

I would not use plastic fuel connectors - Triumph did a recall in 2004 because of breakages.

You can google it - they're rubbish.

jonzi · 28-12-2017, 04:43 PM

I have been using those for the past 5 years on my race bike, a 600ss.

Not had a failure.

28-12-2017, 05:46 PM

Well no, they didn't all fail. From memory there was a Triumph in the US which caught fire that instigated the recall.

At the time, a mate had a Triumph Sprint and he fitted metal ones so I had a good look at them. The plastic ones failed on the male part at the groove where the clip fits.
Triumph only replaced the male part.

Dukedesmo · 28-12-2017, 09:18 PM

I've got a very similar fitting on my Monster - works fine.

On EFI bikes where using pressurised fuel I probably wouldn't use that sort but on my carb'd (all be it with a fuel injection pump) there's no issue as I'm recirculating the excess back to the tank with no pressure regulator to allow it a pressure build up.

916 uses plastic QR connectors and they work fine although they can break (usually when connecting/disconnecting) so I have replaced them with metal connectors.

Darkness · 28-12-2017, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLUNT

I would not use plastic fuel connectors - Triumph did a recall in 2004 because of breakages.

You can google it - they're rubbish.

Risk assessment is a balance of probability of failure and the consequence of failure.

Could kill you, but probably won't, is still a bit scary.

sram · 01-01-2018, 07:38 PM

Thanks for teh input! Got me thinking now....
When they finally arrive I will have a good look at them and consider my options.

01-01-2018, 07:38 PM

Same thinking that Darkness, although plastic connectors are used on later Ducati’s (1198, 848, etc), one half of the connector is fitted to the tank, with less flex than with both sides on the fuel line. I went the metal way for those and although I can’t find the details at this very moment, I am pretty sure they are from a German motorsport supplier. Fuel line routing was also changed slightly and a support made to clamp the connector along the frame. May be an overkill but it has been on the bike for 2 years with now problems.

01-01-2018, 07:51 PM

A few more photos to show the set up:

sram · 01-01-2018, 08:00 PM

That looks like quality kit and a nice neat job on the mounting, too. I've just looked on the Tom Parker site and it seems those bits work out to about £50 inc postage, does that sound about right? A bit rich for my likings at the moment, but may put it on the list if the plastic ones turn out to be made of cheese and I return them.

01-01-2018, 08:11 PM

Sounds about right (I remember something around the £40 mark) I first had bought the same plastic connectors but decided against them (same logic than a few have expressed above). Then another tank removal malarkey convinced me to get those QC! Tank out in a couple of minutes... if I don’t forget to disconnect the fuel sender!!!

utopia · 02-01-2018, 08:35 AM

Beware of some cheaper plastic quick-disconnects available on ebay.
I tried one last year and it failed as soon as I connected it (flowed zero fuel and then exploded into pieces when I disconnected it) .. as did a second replacement.
The original plastic ones that Ducati used as std are made by CPC (if memory serves).
I now have one of those fitted and have had no problems for a year or so since.
This is on a carby bike btw.

Capo · 02-01-2018, 08:58 AM

When fitting to an injected bike with flow and return, fit them in opposite directions so that they can not be connected incorrectly

Darren69 · 02-01-2018, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utopia

Beware of some cheaper plastic quick-disconnects available on ebay.
I tried one last year and it failed as soon as I connected it (flowed zero fuel and then exploded into pieces when I disconnected it) .. as did a second replacement.
The original plastic ones that Ducati used as std are made by CPC (if memory serves).
I now have one of those fitted and have had no problems for a year or so since.
This is on a carby bike btw.

Yes, those are the ones I used, the same as Ducati Performance ones.

https://www.cpcworldwide.com/

28-12-2017, 02:47 PM	#1
sram Registered User Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: London Bike: M600 Posts: 72	Quick release fuel connector? I wondered if anyone used quick release fuel connectors to make removing the fuel tank easier? I have just ordered these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUICK-REL...72.m2749.l2649 I am hoping the quality is ok. Reviews seem positive. This is for my M600 and I'm hoping to be able to fit these between the fuel tap and the tank outlet in order to make removing the tank less of a faff. The tank has to be removed for so many operations on the bike and so I thought this may make jobs requiring it that little bit nicer.

28-12-2017, 03:01 PM	#2
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	Yes, I did the same on mine but they were the white plastic ones the same as DP used but at a fraction of the price. I would think they'd be ok since you're not dealing with the fuel pressure on non IE bikes like mine and mine have been fine, no issues for the last 3-4 years. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

28-12-2017, 04:43 PM	#4
jonzi Mary Mary Quite Contrary Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Berkhamsted Bike: M796 Posts: 1,398	I have been using those for the past 5 years on my race bike, a 600ss. Not had a failure. __________________ #48

28-12-2017, 09:18 PM	#6
Dukedesmo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leics Bike: M900 Posts: 2,838	I've got a very similar fitting on my Monster - works fine. On EFI bikes where using pressurised fuel I probably wouldn't use that sort but on my carb'd (all be it with a fuel injection pump) there's no issue as I'm recirculating the excess back to the tank with no pressure regulator to allow it a pressure build up. 916 uses plastic QR connectors and they work fine although they can break (usually when connecting/disconnecting) so I have replaced them with metal connectors. __________________ M900, 916, LeMans II.

28-12-2017, 05:46 PM	#5
BLUNT Guest Posts: n/a	Well no, they didn't all fail. From memory there was a Triumph in the US which caught fire that instigated the recall. At the time, a mate had a Triumph Sprint and he fitted metal ones so I had a good look at them. The plastic ones failed on the male part at the groove where the clip fits. Triumph only replaced the male part.

01-01-2018, 07:38 PM	#8
sram Registered User Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: London Bike: M600 Posts: 72	Thanks for teh input! Got me thinking now.... When they finally arrive I will have a good look at them and consider my options.

01-01-2018, 07:38 PM	#9
Froggy46 Guest Posts: n/a	Same thinking that Darkness, although plastic connectors are used on later Ducati’s (1198, 848, etc), one half of the connector is fitted to the tank, with less flex than with both sides on the fuel line. I went the metal way for those and although I can’t find the details at this very moment, I am pretty sure they are from a German motorsport supplier. Fuel line routing was also changed slightly and a support made to clamp the connector along the frame. May be an overkill but it has been on the bike for 2 years with now problems.

01-01-2018, 07:51 PM	#10
Froggy46 Guest Posts: n/a	A few more photos to show the set up:

01-01-2018, 08:00 PM	#11
sram Registered User Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: London Bike: M600 Posts: 72	That looks like quality kit and a nice neat job on the mounting, too. I've just looked on the Tom Parker site and it seems those bits work out to about £50 inc postage, does that sound about right? A bit rich for my likings at the moment, but may put it on the list if the plastic ones turn out to be made of cheese and I return them.

01-01-2018, 08:11 PM	#12
Froggy46 Guest Posts: n/a	Sounds about right (I remember something around the £40 mark) I first had bought the same plastic connectors but decided against them (same logic than a few have expressed above). Then another tank removal malarkey convinced me to get those QC! Tank out in a couple of minutes... if I don’t forget to disconnect the fuel sender!!!

02-01-2018, 08:35 AM	#13
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	Beware of some cheaper plastic quick-disconnects available on ebay. I tried one last year and it failed as soon as I connected it (flowed zero fuel and then exploded into pieces when I disconnected it) .. as did a second replacement. The original plastic ones that Ducati used as std are made by CPC (if memory serves). I now have one of those fitted and have had no problems for a year or so since. This is on a carby bike btw.

02-01-2018, 08:58 AM	#14
Capo You Are What You Is Join Date: May 2005 Location: A Foward Location Bike: S4r Posts: 1,948	When fitting to an injected bike with flow and return, fit them in opposite directions so that they can not be connected incorrectly