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Old 25-07-2019, 11:32 AM   #1
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No more ethanol free ESSO 97

Apparently from Begining of July all ESSO garages have had the pure benzine 97 removed and replaced with E5 Gasohol 97 ,, its been caused by UK government requirment that all fuels must have 5% ethanol minimum according to ESSO customer service ,,,
my Mates in sussex tell me this is the case and all ESSO 97 pumps now have E5 labels


very sad new indeed ,, for those of use with carbed bikes
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Old 25-07-2019, 04:28 PM   #2
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If that's true all over the country I might as well switch to standard fuel and save a few pence. Will have to get my tank sealed now.
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Old 25-07-2019, 04:41 PM   #3
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Their website presently still says:

‘The majority of unleaded 95 Octane petrol sold in the UK contains up to 5% ethanol as required under the Government’s Renewable Transport Fuels Obligation (RTFO).

There is currently no requirement for renewable fuel (such as ethanol) to be present in super unleaded (97 grade petrol).

Esso super unleaded petrol (Synergy Supreme+ Unleaded 97) is ethanol free (except in Devon, Cornwall, the Teesside area and Scotland). We would therefore advise anyone who has concerns about the presence of ethanol in petrol to use Synergy Supreme+ – providing they do not fill up in Devon or Cornwall, the Teesside area or Scotland.‘

https://www.esso.co.uk/fuels-faqs
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Old 25-07-2019, 09:34 PM   #4
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Their website presently still says:

‘The majority of unleaded 95 Octane petrol sold in the UK contains up to 5% ethanol as required under the Government’s Renewable Transport Fuels Obligation (RTFO).

There is currently no requirement for renewable fuel (such as ethanol) to be present in super unleaded (97 grade petrol).

Esso super unleaded petrol (Synergy Supreme+ Unleaded 97) is ethanol free (except in Devon, Cornwall, the Teesside area and Scotland). We would therefore advise anyone who has concerns about the presence of ethanol in petrol to use Synergy Supreme+ – providing they do not fill up in Devon or Cornwall, the Teesside area or Scotland.‘

https://www.esso.co.uk/fuels-faqs
I saw that too ,, but it seems that is no longer true ,, most Esso 97 pumps will soon have the white and black E5 logo stickers on,, i have asked my brother who is a motor industry emissions and fuels specialist and head of development at DELPHI to look into it as herhas contacts in all the major companies and Brussels and UK gov use him as a consultant boffin .
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Old 25-07-2019, 09:44 PM   #5
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Their website presently still says:

‘The majority of unleaded 95 Octane petrol sold in the UK contains up to 5% ethanol as required under the Government’s Renewable Transport Fuels Obligation (RTFO).

There is currently no requirement for renewable fuel (such as ethanol) to be present in super unleaded (97 grade petrol).

Esso super unleaded petrol (Synergy Supreme+ Unleaded 97) is ethanol free (except in Devon, Cornwall, the Teesside area and Scotland). We would therefore advise anyone who has concerns about the presence of ethanol in petrol to use Synergy Supreme+ – providing they do not fill up in Devon or Cornwall, the Teesside area or Scotland.‘

https://www.esso.co.uk/fuels-faqs
I saw that too ,, but it seems that is no longer true ,, most Esso 97 pumps will soon have the white and black E5 logo stickers on,, i have asked my brother who is a motor industry emissions and fuels specialist to look into it as her has contacts in all the major companies
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Old 26-07-2019, 03:37 PM   #6
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Apparently from Begining of July...


Always treat with caution any news that starts with the word 'apparently'!

So, apparently(!), the appearance of 'E5' labels on forecourt pumps has nothing to do with any changes to Esso's Synergy Supreme+, it is merely the application of new fuel labelling guidelines previously announced by the government back in February.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g...-greener-fuels

Under the new rules, two new labels must be shown on all pumps by September - 'E5' and 'B7'; 'E5' means petrol with an ethanol content not exceeding 5% (so including ethanol-free), and 'B7' is for diesel with no more than 7% FAME (Fatty acid methyl ester).

If and when 10% ethanol fuel is introduced, then a new label 'E10' will be introduced for 5%-10% ethanol content.

There is still no legislation requiring a minimum ethanol content in fuel; legislation only governs maximum ethanol content.

An email to Esso yesterday prompted the now familiar response i.e.

"Esso Synergy Supreme+ is ethanol free (except in Devon, Cornwall, the Teesside area and Scotland) and we have no current intention to add ethanol to Synergy Supreme+ in other areas of the UK."

So...as you were!

[I'll attach a copy of this to the other ethanol thread to bring everything together http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...d.php?t=54542]
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Old 25-07-2019, 04:52 PM   #8
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Apparently from Begining of July all ESSO garages have had the pure benzine 97 removed and replaced with E5 Gasohol 97 ,, its been caused by UK government requirment that all fuels must have 5% ethanol minimum according to ESSO customer service ,,,
my Mates in sussex tell me this is the case and all ESSO 97 pumps now have E5 labels


very sad new indeed ,, for those of use with carbed bikes
They're looking at a minimum of 10% in the not too distant future so could a lot worse quite soon
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Old 25-07-2019, 06:57 PM   #9
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Hasn't been ethanol free for some time down here...
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