PC vs Apple Mac..............

Just to revive the old argument again, partly for the sake of it, but mostly a little warning.
I was always a little suspicious about the Apple Mac, and I saw a programme on cable last night that confirmed it.
Basically, if one has a pc, they can be upgraded, and defective componants replaced* by the owner, after nothing more than a visit to one's local pc shop.
Apple Macs on the other hand, can only be repaired by a certified dealer. This is because, under the terms of the Mac dealership, componants like motherboards etc, etc, cannot be supplied to the customer. They HAVE to bring it in to the dealer for repair.
To me that's crap. So PD (I think it is who has a Mac), you can stick it. I'll stick with my home made pc which I can repair myself.

(* there is the odd un-upgradables. like old Tiny pcs etc.)

Now waiting for Apple Mac owners to try and give me a broadside of verbal, including the benefits of Macs, blah, blah, etc......10..9..8..7..6..5..4..3..2..1..........

Didge dont believe everything you read in the daily mail or watch on cable!

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Hmm have to take it to a licenced dealer, only mac parts - do I hear the ring of familarity. Of course I'm talking about Harleys and not Ducatis.

The shark would win....

Originally Posted by Didge

I'll stick with my home made pc which I can repair myself.

To use a 4WD analogy: sure you can chose a Land Rover, for it's ease of repair and cheap and plentiful supply of spare parts... or you can choose a Toyota that won't go wrong in the first place - I know what I'd rather drive across a desert x

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ahh the old "but macs don't go wrong" rumour, Hmmmmmmmm....

Originally Posted by A Yerbury

ahh the old "but macs don't go wrong" rumour, Hmmmmmmmm....

Aha, I can vouch for this. I work with a PC (multiple ) and have a PC at home that I built from components, none of this off the shelf malarky. I also have a dual G4 power mac (which the miss's uses more than me). Which goes wrong more often, yup the windoze machines.

***WARNING, TECHIE' ALERT***

Mac OS X is way more stable as an operating system than anything windows related. It's based on the Unix core and runs with protected memory, that means if an application crashes only the portion of memory it's loaded into goes with it not the whole operating system like with the windows blue screen of death. Its also ALOT more secure. The debarcle of Windows XP service pack 2 is fine example of windows security, update it and suddenly half your application don't have permissions to run, smart. There are ALOT less viruses for Mac's too, pretty much all those PC ones simply dont run on a Mac

Mac's also just work, they dont give stupid popups saying "you've disconnected such and such cable" when you know you've just unplugged it!!!! And how come when you put a Mac disc into a PC it goes mad and wants to format it, yet when you put a PC disc into a Mac it just gets on and reads it?

Mac's are very upgradable. Any 'PC' hard drive, CD/DVD/CDRW drive, memory and other internal drive will work in a Mac (within reason). I've got an extra 80GB disc, from a PC, and a Lacie CDRW, from a PC, in the Mac, all no problems. Yes, the Hard drive needed formating, but thats it. Even the CPU can be upgraded with at least 2 third party manufacturers making replacement CPU's, Sonnet is one of them cant remember the other. The only time you'll struggle is with the motherboard, but how many of you PC lovers have ever bothered to upgrade this part or just buy a new pc?? For those who want to know, Imac's use the laptop technology and how many PC laptops are easily upgradable? my mates aint and he complains all the time...

Contary to belief you dont need a 'Mac' monitor, all new Mac's and most of the recent one's use the digital connection found on most decent LCD monitors. For the older ones you can get an adapter for the PC monitor to go onto the Mac port, easy.

With regards to Mac bits not being easily available, how many Dell boxes can be diddled with without your warranty being voided?? Admitadely Apple are the same, but they're no worse than Dell

I voted Mac but I do ALL my work on PC. PC's (unfortunately) are common place and are what everyone learns on. A friend of mine is an NT Administrator. He loves Mac's but says he's had to unlearn alot of stuff before he could get on with it. But for getting on with the rest of the world I am forced to use a PC (boo!)

One last thing, did you know that the first windows operating system was written on a Mac??

rant over

DJ

(In all fairness, the first MacOS was a ripoff of something that Xerox wrote!!!)

OK I'll bite

First some background, I've working in IT for over 15 years. I have worked with most types of computer and operating systems including Windows, Mac, Sun Solaris, Hewlett Packard HP-UX, Compaq Tru-64 (now being phased out by HP), IBM AIX, Silcon Graphics Irix and various distributions of Linux. I install, configure, use and repair all of these systems.

What do I use at home ? Apple Macs.

Why ? Because they are easier to use and are more reliable.

Are they perfect ? No, all computers can fail, all operating systems have flaws, all software can have bugs.

Am I happy with my choice ? Yes.

Do I want to make everyone using Windows change ? No, I couldn't care less what you do.

Except if you are going to go to all the trouble of building your own PC, selecting the very best components, constantly upgrading the hardware until you have your perfect combination of hardware, then why put an atrocious, unreliable, bug ridden, security nightmare of an operating system like Windows on it ? At least download Linux, build your own kernel and get the best performance from all that hardware you put together.

Just my opinion.

Cerebus the Geek

Originally Posted by cerebus

OK I'll bite

Except if you are going to go to all the trouble of building your own PC, selecting the very best components, constantly upgrading the hardware until you have your perfect combination of hardware, then why put an atrocious, unreliable, bug ridden, security nightmare of an operating system like Windows on it ? At least download Linux, build your own kernel and get the best performance from all that hardware you put together.

Because I play games and go to Lan parties and Linux doesn't cut the mustard at gaming yet

DJ :burnout:

Well I prefer macs! I am sick and tired of windows cock ups "unknow error....why tell me? I'm just flesh and blood!?" but the notion that macs dont go wrong is simply false, I used to freelance for some web design friends a few years back (a proper multi million levis and amex client type affair not some bloke with a copy of macromedia clobber!) any way, all the imacs and about half of the blue/charcoal g3s went back. plus at least half of the apple (made by samsung) monitors had lines on them! dont get me wrong I dont mind either OS and macs do seem more stable but the idea that they are somehow infallible just aint the case. One thing to be said for the pc is that one is forced to find out how it all goes together and make an effort, some like this tinkering but I am getting a bit bored of it now.....hmmm so its a g4 lap for me after all...!

I seem to remember the lines on Mac screens, was it not something to do with stabalising the image on a large screen. From what I remember there were two faint hairlines running horizontaly 1/3 and 2/3 up the screen.

This is a favorite for putting as a background on a users PC - how childish.