Yet Another M900 Build - Page 9

Mr Gazza · 28-04-2021, 09:19 AM

That doesn't look like a Monster headlamp shell to me.
If they are all the same, which I think they were up until the strange plastic ones were introduced on the S#R.
It should have a rolled lip for the rim to sit over. (maybe it's out of sight due to camera angle?) Does the headlamp glass have Bosch written on it?

I think the finish might be right for a "Dark" model, but I think mostly they had a gloss finish with a subtle silver metalflake in it which I believe is called "Light spark" and is a complete arse to reproduce.

Absolutely prepared to be contradicted.

Darren69 · 28-04-2021, 09:24 AM

Gary's the headlight guru, he would know.

Mr Gazza · 28-04-2021, 12:31 PM

I've changed my mind. I'm sure it's a Monster Bosch one.

Aperture in the chrome rim should be 186mm.

Looks like the weather has dulled the paint beyond recognition though, I wouldn't match the dull finish!
Powder coating might make the rim tight too.

PPuxley · 28-04-2021, 02:29 PM

Alright, I give in.....how do you get the sidestand off the Mount?

Nasher · 28-04-2021, 02:40 PM

That looks like you are missing the bit with the Allen socket!

PPuxley · 28-04-2021, 02:41 PM

Ive just finished blasting the shell for taking to the powder coaters, so dont want to be man handling it too much. Yes to Bosch H4 and Yes to the lip all round- classic Bosch fitment, well, same as on the Laverda anyway
194mm lip to lip.
Difficult to see in photo but , its not a dull/aged finish. Where its not rusty and on the protected inside it was all the same very finely textured matt- 200 wet and dry is a fairly good description.
I dont think the powder coat will be an issue for thickness, we're not talking stove enamel finish thicknesses.

PPuxley · 28-04-2021, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nasher

That looks like you are missing the bit with the Allen socket!

I feel a bit of welding coming on!!!!
Thanks, at least I know I can grip it in the vice and give it some.

Nasher · 28-04-2021, 02:57 PM

Have you discovered the parts diagrams on the Stein Dinse website:

https://www.stein-dinse.biz/eliste/index.php

Choose what bike you want from the drop down menus on the left.
Their site covers all the older bikes that the Ducati websites don't.

They are a very useful resource

Oh and click on the number in the diagram to get the details and image(Zeigen), not the part itself.

Nasher.

PPuxley · 28-04-2021, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nasher

Have you discovered the parts diagrams on the Stein Dinse website:

https://www.stein-dinse.biz/eliste/index.php

Choose what bike you want from the drop down menus on the left.
Their site covers all the older bikes that the Ducati websites don't.

They are a very useful resource

Oh and click on the number in the diagram to get the details and image(Zeigen), not the part itself.

Nasher.

Yes, I have...sorry , lazy of me! Ive just had a look and that "nut" is about £30! What size allen is that? 6mm?

enbee23 · 28-04-2021, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nasher

That looks like you are missing the bit with the Allen socket!

I had the sidestand assembly off the bike but couldn't see how to dismantle it further either. Whatever has been done to that "nut" looks like it happened some time ago. What would be the benefit of removing the protruding part?

PPuxley · 28-04-2021, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enbee23

I had the sidestand assembly off the bike but couldn't see how to dismantle it further either. Whatever has been done to that "nut" looks like it happened some time ago. What would be the benefit of removing the protruding part?

Not benefit.........Probably thrown down the road?? Once I knew how it went, I git it in the vice. Soon be sorted.

Darkness · 28-04-2021, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPuxley

Not benefit.........Probably thrown down the road?? Once I knew how it went, I git it in the vice. Soon be sorted.

The “missing” protrusion is what holds back the plate on the return stand spring so that the side stand flips up when you lift the weight off the stand (Suicide stand).

Popular period modifications to allow the stand to stay down were to buy a “C” shaped plate that cleared the protrusion, or grind off the protrusion so the straight plate slides across it.

enbee23 · 28-04-2021, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkness

The “missing” protrusion is what holds back the plate on the return stand spring so that the side stand flips up when you lift the weight off the stand (Suicide stand).

Popular period modifications to allow the stand to stay down were to buy a “C” shaped plate that cleared the protrusion, or grind off the protrusion so the straight plate slides across it.

That makes sense.

motomartin11 · 28-04-2021, 04:31 PM

Yes that's what's been done to my bike -your old 750 Nick. The stand stays down until you kick it up in the conventional manner.

PPuxley · 28-04-2021, 05:05 PM

Right , I need to rethink. I dont want the suicide stand, but I would like to be able to undo the fixing .
So Im thinking or even a standard button head with large plain washer

28-04-2021, 09:19 AM	#121
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,845	That doesn't look like a Monster headlamp shell to me. If they are all the same, which I think they were up until the strange plastic ones were introduced on the S#R. It should have a rolled lip for the rim to sit over. (maybe it's out of sight due to camera angle?) Does the headlamp glass have Bosch written on it? I think the finish might be right for a "Dark" model, but I think mostly they had a gloss finish with a subtle silver metalflake in it which I believe is called "Light spark" and is a complete arse to reproduce. Absolutely prepared to be contradicted. __________________

28-04-2021, 09:24 AM	#122
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,027	Gary's the headlight guru, he would know. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

28-04-2021, 12:31 PM	#123
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,845	I've changed my mind. I'm sure it's a Monster Bosch one. Aperture in the chrome rim should be 186mm. Looks like the weather has dulled the paint beyond recognition though, I wouldn't match the dull finish! Powder coating might make the rim tight too. __________________

28-04-2021, 02:29 PM	#124
PPuxley Registered User Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Reading Bike: M900 Posts: 600	Alright, I give in.....how do you get the sidestand off the Mount? __________________ Golf-My favourite game. While my wife plays I'm in the workshop.

28-04-2021, 02:40 PM	#125
Nasher Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Portsmouth Bike: M900 Posts: 1,510	That looks like you are missing the bit with the Allen socket! __________________ Heaven doesn't want me, and Hell is afraid I'll take over.

28-04-2021, 02:41 PM	#126
PPuxley Registered User Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Reading Bike: M900 Posts: 600	Ive just finished blasting the shell for taking to the powder coaters, so dont want to be man handling it too much. Yes to Bosch H4 and Yes to the lip all round- classic Bosch fitment, well, same as on the Laverda anyway 194mm lip to lip. Difficult to see in photo but , its not a dull/aged finish. Where its not rusty and on the protected inside it was all the same very finely textured matt- 200 wet and dry is a fairly good description. I dont think the powder coat will be an issue for thickness, we're not talking stove enamel finish thicknesses. __________________ Golf-My favourite game. While my wife plays I'm in the workshop.

28-04-2021, 02:57 PM	#128
Nasher Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Portsmouth Bike: M900 Posts: 1,510	Have you discovered the parts diagrams on the Stein Dinse website: https://www.stein-dinse.biz/eliste/index.php Choose what bike you want from the drop down menus on the left. Their site covers all the older bikes that the Ducati websites don't. They are a very useful resource Oh and click on the number in the diagram to get the details and image(Zeigen), not the part itself. Nasher. __________________ Heaven doesn't want me, and Hell is afraid I'll take over.

28-04-2021, 04:31 PM	#134
motomartin11 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: stourbridge Bike: M750 Posts: 352	Yes that's what's been done to my bike -your old 750 Nick. The stand stays down until you kick it up in the conventional manner.

28-04-2021, 05:05 PM	#135
PPuxley Registered User Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Reading Bike: M900 Posts: 600	Right , I need to rethink. I dont want the suicide stand, but I would like to be able to undo the fixing . So Im thinking or even a standard button head with large plain washer __________________ Golf-My favourite game. While my wife plays I'm in the workshop.