1999 M600 has been sitting for 5 years - what to do? - Page 7

slob · 24-05-2022, 06:34 PM

to the uninitiated, both pipes will feel pretty damn warm even when one cylinder has gone down

Albie · 24-05-2022, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by slob

to the uninitiated, both pipes will feel pretty damn warm even when one cylinder has gone down

Couldnt believe how hot a clutch slave gets after a ride taking it off to check a front sprocket. Just shows how much heat goes into the fluid.

jamminbmx · 24-05-2022, 07:52 PM

Bad news! Vertical cylinder not firing. Thanks all!

Checked the pick up coil and got an open circuit. The horizontal was 100 ohms. Wiring looks ok!

Does this happen to people ever?! Whats the best thing to do?

Darren69 · 24-05-2022, 10:00 PM

Do you mean the HT coils?

Look like Exact fit do them:-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333780130...3ABFBMsOLk_Z5g

Although those are in the US

Darren69 · 24-05-2022, 10:04 PM

Yea, they do them in UK

http://www.exactuk.com/ccw-high-output-coil-kits/

Although you might be able to get s/hand one from a breakers on ebay etc.

Mr Gazza · 24-05-2022, 10:58 PM

I'm pretty sure Nasher has got some for sale.

Darren69 · 24-05-2022, 11:18 PM

I know he's got some CDI units. Maybe he has coils too? He'd be a good person to ask as he's sorting through the late Darkness's bikes and parts.

Nasher · 24-05-2022, 11:34 PM

Evnin guys

I do have some Genuine IC ignitors off my old M900 that I converted to an Ignitech system, but I don't think I have any coils, I might get a chance to have a look tomorrow.

I've not seen any in Mark's stash either, but am hoping to have a better sort through it all very soon as the bikes are being collected tomorrow which will leave room to look at the parts.

jamminbmx · 25-05-2022, 05:53 AM

I mean the pick up coil inside the left crank case. The manual explains how to check them with a multimeter. I checked the ignition coils and they are ok.

Just not sure why it suddenly stopped working!

Dukedesmo · 25-05-2022, 09:19 AM

Presume the pickups are still available from Ducati?

I know Ignitech sell them; https://www.ignitech.cz/en/vyrobky/a...up/pick-up.htm and IME their products are very good, at least the programmable ignition as mentioned above by Nasher. I've had one on my M900 since I got it and it's been faultless, plus can alter the advance to suit the tuning work, still running with the original pickups though.

jamminbmx · 25-05-2022, 02:10 PM

Cheers Duke! Will have a look...ducati are 200 quid plus as you have to buy the whole loom with the 2 pick up coils.

Anyone know if the stator cover has a gasket? Or just liquid gasket?

Dukedesmo · 25-05-2022, 02:35 PM

Mine both have 'Threebond' liquid gasket but even if a gasket was fitted originally, you can do away with it and use threebond.

Nasher · 25-05-2022, 02:58 PM

I'm actually on my way to Marks place in a minute so will have a look and see if there are any pick-ups in his spares.

jamminbmx · 30-05-2022, 07:51 AM

Thanks Nasher!

I'm in the Netherlands though. I have found a company that makes the full wiring loom with the 2 pick up coils so will order that.

2 (possibly stupid) questions:

- Do i need a puller to remove the left crankcase like the manual says?
- Do I need to drain oil first?

Cheers!

Mr Gazza · 30-05-2022, 08:48 AM

Yes. Use the puller to pop the cover off.
Also remove the clutch slave and find the cover screw that nestles behind it in a recess. It might be hidden by chain goo, so wash down and make sure you find and remove it or you'll bust the cover when you apply the puller. (You won't be the first though!)

If you're doing this on the side stand you will need to drain most of the oil.
On a paddock stand you might get away with it, but probably lose some when the cover pops, so you might as well drop a pint or so out, but not the whole lot as I imagine it's fresh oil you have in there?

24-05-2022, 10:00 PM	#94
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,091	Do you mean the HT coils? Look like Exact fit do them:- https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333780130...3ABFBMsOLk_Z5g Although those are in the US __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

24-05-2022, 10:04 PM	#95
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,091	Yea, they do them in UK http://www.exactuk.com/ccw-high-output-coil-kits/ Although you might be able to get s/hand one from a breakers on ebay etc. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

24-05-2022, 10:58 PM	#96
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,963	I'm pretty sure Nasher has got some for sale. __________________

24-05-2022, 11:18 PM	#97
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,091	I know he's got some CDI units. Maybe he has coils too? He'd be a good person to ask as he's sorting through the late Darkness's bikes and parts. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

24-05-2022, 11:34 PM	#98
Nasher Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Portsmouth Bike: M900 Posts: 1,518	Evnin guys I do have some Genuine IC ignitors off my old M900 that I converted to an Ignitech system, but I don't think I have any coils, I might get a chance to have a look tomorrow. I've not seen any in Mark's stash either, but am hoping to have a better sort through it all very soon as the bikes are being collected tomorrow which will leave room to look at the parts. __________________ Heaven doesn't want me, and Hell is afraid I'll take over.

24-05-2022, 06:34 PM	#91
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,733	to the uninitiated, both pipes will feel pretty damn warm even when one cylinder has gone down

24-05-2022, 07:52 PM	#93
jamminbmx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: oxford Bike: M600 Posts: 131	Bad news! Vertical cylinder not firing. Thanks all! Checked the pick up coil and got an open circuit. The horizontal was 100 ohms. Wiring looks ok! Does this happen to people ever?! Whats the best thing to do?

25-05-2022, 05:53 AM	#99
jamminbmx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: oxford Bike: M600 Posts: 131	I mean the pick up coil inside the left crank case. The manual explains how to check them with a multimeter. I checked the ignition coils and they are ok. Just not sure why it suddenly stopped working!

25-05-2022, 09:19 AM	#100
Dukedesmo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leics Bike: M900 Posts: 2,894	Presume the pickups are still available from Ducati? I know Ignitech sell them; https://www.ignitech.cz/en/vyrobky/a...up/pick-up.htm and IME their products are very good, at least the programmable ignition as mentioned above by Nasher. I've had one on my M900 since I got it and it's been faultless, plus can alter the advance to suit the tuning work, still running with the original pickups though. __________________ M900, 916, LeMans II.

25-05-2022, 02:10 PM	#101
jamminbmx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: oxford Bike: M600 Posts: 131	Cheers Duke! Will have a look...ducati are 200 quid plus as you have to buy the whole loom with the 2 pick up coils. Anyone know if the stator cover has a gasket? Or just liquid gasket?

25-05-2022, 02:35 PM	#102
Dukedesmo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leics Bike: M900 Posts: 2,894	Mine both have 'Threebond' liquid gasket but even if a gasket was fitted originally, you can do away with it and use threebond. __________________ M900, 916, LeMans II.

25-05-2022, 02:58 PM	#103
Nasher Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Portsmouth Bike: M900 Posts: 1,518	I'm actually on my way to Marks place in a minute so will have a look and see if there are any pick-ups in his spares. __________________ Heaven doesn't want me, and Hell is afraid I'll take over.

30-05-2022, 07:51 AM	#104
jamminbmx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: oxford Bike: M600 Posts: 131	Thanks Nasher! I'm in the Netherlands though. I have found a company that makes the full wiring loom with the 2 pick up coils so will order that. 2 (possibly stupid) questions: - Do i need a puller to remove the left crankcase like the manual says? - Do I need to drain oil first? Cheers!

30-05-2022, 08:48 AM	#105
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,963	Yes. Use the puller to pop the cover off. Also remove the clutch slave and find the cover screw that nestles behind it in a recess. It might be hidden by chain goo, so wash down and make sure you find and remove it or you'll bust the cover when you apply the puller. (You won't be the first though!) If you're doing this on the side stand you will need to drain most of the oil. On a paddock stand you might get away with it, but probably lose some when the cover pops, so you might as well drop a pint or so out, but not the whole lot as I imagine it's fresh oil you have in there? __________________