Mega Rant.....................

Originally Posted by gary tompkins

Didge,

If you sent off the V5 to inform the DVLA you were not the registered keeper you can tell them p#ss off. Even if the NIP went to court the case would be thrown out so I wouldn't stress over it.

Shagwits

Gary, I'm not stressed over it, as I have no intention of paying a penny, but I am bloody angry. This sort of sh1t happens all the time.
We've all read the news stories of some farmer oop north, who receives a parking ticket from London, for his vehicle, reg. No XXX XXXX, and said vehicle is a old Massey Ferguson that hasn't run for 5 years etc etc.
This whole business with relying on (s)camras to police the roads instead of traffic cops, is total crap.
The SORN system, where the onus is on US to inform the DVLA that we AREN'T breaking the law. It's all bullsh1t, that I find intrusive.
I owe nothing to anyone. I pay my bills etc etc. Why can't these officious arsewipes just leave us alone to live our bloody lives, without all this unnessasary bullsh1t.
The moment I get one of those officious crap letters thru' my door, they have invaded my privacy, and I get fu*ked off, BIG time.

Copy of letter sent to Kent Police, along with the NIP.:-

Dear Sirs,

Re:- the enclosed NIP concerning vehicle reg.K*** ***, please note that this vehicle was sold by us, sometime in November/December of last year, and the DVLA was advised as per.
Four/five months down the line, we have no record of the new owners details. The fact that the DVLA, still has Ms Andrews down as the owner of the above vehicle, says a lot about the efficiency of said DVLA.
It also goes to show the stupidity of a system that relies on (s)cameras to enforce the traffic laws instead of traffic police.
It would be nice to think that after this explanation, Ms Andrews name will be removed from the records as being the owner of the above vehicle, but going by past experience of dealing with bureaucratic authorities in this country, I'll not hold my breath.

Yours faithfully


D. Vernon (for Ms Andrews)

Quote"your talking about Gypos gremlin (i hope i didnt say somthing racist ???) we get them too where I live, their kids come round with bucket and sponge asking to wash your car at a price, then later they throw stones as we drive by, their kids also come to the local school "somtimes" and espesialy at dinner time, to get their education. These ppl also have a habbit of secretly buying up land and when their caravans turn in to statics and the six foot fencing and huge fancy wrought iron gates go up its the first we know about it, i always try to remember that im living in a free country when i see this kinda crap lol."

Yup little darlins Ours are in a house and have caravans in the gardens, loads of kids who don't go to school and who crap in the field near our house much to the dismay of my stepdaughter! They had the cheek to go into our drive to check for more stuff to nick while I was standing close by yesterday!
I'm really worried about going out in case they take a shine to the stuff in our garage and workshop or worse still the bikes! I feel like going round with the remains of one of the taps they nicked so they don't have to come back. You know "you missed a bit" ploy.
I wish I had a 12 bore rather than a .22 air rifle! I'll have to be careful or I'll be in trouble for being intolerant, but you can probably relate to how I'm feeling. What really sticks in my gullet is the hand outs they get the fact they pay no tax etc have illegal vehicles and they don't get jailed when the kids truant.

[gary tompkins]

Got a final demand for an £80 parking fine for our van 2 years ago. It had supposedly been ticketed by a warden in Camden, but when I checked the date it was parked outside our home address all day. I was actually at work on site so couldn't have driven it anyway - Doh!

Anyway - I sent the ticket back un-paid with a covering letter and copies of my work timesheets + tax disc. 3 months later I finally got a response saying "that on this occasion no further action will be taken"

Thanks a bunch... tossers

Was worried that numberplate on the van may have been cloned, but luckily we've had nothing else like this happen.

[Headhunter]

Turn it on its head and send them a bill for unnecessay annoyance etc etc.

Fight fire with fire!

That's another thing that peeves me Gary. No apology whatsoever. Just a curt "that on this occasion no further action will be taken".
Arrogant twats.

Originally Posted by gremlin

I'll have to be careful or I'll be in trouble for being intolerant.

Everyone has the right to be intolerant of pikeys and their behaviour. I've yet to meet one who was nothing but ignorant, and had no idea about acceptable social behaviour.
I've yet to see one camp that wasn't full of detritus and sh1t.
I've yet to see one pikey van or car, with an up to date road fund licence.
Just over four years ago, I lived in an area that was invaded by them on a regular basis, so I speak from experience.

Originally Posted by Headhunter

Turn it on its head and send them a bill for unnecessay annoyance etc etc.

Fight fire with fire!

Mmmmm. Now there's a thought. I'll wait and see if they contact me anymore.

I heard of someone who sent a bill for admin charges to one quango or another, it got paid because if the company is big enough it just gets rubber stamped. I'm thinking of doing it to a few credit card companies who keep pestering. I already rip up all the contents of the letter and use their envelope to send it back. After all why should I pay to dispose of their rubbish or risk my details being used by some fraudulant oik. We can't recycle envelopes here so if the woodburner is out we have to put them in the bin. I'd rather spend their money on postage.

[Capo]

Originally Posted by Didge

That's another thing that peeves me Gary. No apology whatsoever. Just a curt "that on this occasion no further action will be taken".
Arrogant twats.




Everyone has the right to be intolerant of pikeys and their behaviour. I've yet to meet one who was nothing but ignorant, and had no idea about acceptable social behaviour.
I've yet to see one camp that wasn't full of detritus and sh1t.
I've yet to see one pikey van or car, with an up to date road fund licence.
Just over four years ago, I lived in an area that was invaded by them on a regular basis, so I speak from experience.

The problem (if thats the right word) is that the police avoid them like the plague, because they would get their asses kicked if they try to nick them.

Much easier nicking pensioners for confiscating a football.

Pikeys do as you Likeys

[spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by gremlin

I heard of someone who sent a bill for admin charges to one quango or another, it got paid because if the company is big enough it just gets rubber stamped. I'm thinking of doing it to a few credit card companies who keep pestering. I already rip up all the contents of the letter and use their envelope to send it back. After all why should I pay to dispose of their rubbish or risk my details being used by some fraudulant oik. We can't recycle envelopes here so if the woodburner is out we have to put them in the bin. I'd rather spend their money on postage.

That's the idea... they pay for them if you send them so why not? And it has the added bonus of saving the Royal Mail and giving the postie somehting else to steal apart from my DVDs..

Evening Didge. Glad nothing's changed...

Originally Posted by spacemonkey

That's the idea... they pay for them if you send them so why not? And it has the added bonus of saving the Royal Mail and giving the postie somehting else to steal apart from my DVDs..

Evening Didge. Glad nothing's changed...

Hi Space. Long time no hear. Are you still playing with the dead?

[spacemonkey]

Of course.. In a nice way though...

Originally Posted by gary tompkins

Got a final demand for an £80 parking fine for our van 2 years ago. It had supposedly been ticketed by a warden in Camden, but when I checked the date it was parked outside our home address all day. I was actually at work on site so couldn't have driven it anyway - Doh!

Anyway - I sent the ticket back un-paid with a covering letter and copies of my work timesheets + tax disc. 3 months later I finally got a response saying "that on this occasion no further action will be taken"

Thanks a bunch... tossers

Was worried that numberplate on the van may have been cloned, but luckily we've had nothing else like this happen.

Yep this does get up my nose. I got a PCN and an £80 fine demand for "being in a bus lane" is some place I had never heard of let alone been. Just to add a little sweetness it actually dropped through the door on my birthday (which at first made me think it might be a wind up!). I rang them up - get stuffed sir - write to us. So I did, pointing out that the car in question could not possibly be mine because for starters it wasn't a Vauxhall as stated on the PCN, enclosing a copy of my reg document. I also asked them to tell me if someone was driving around with my reg on their car, or whether they had just fecked up, because if someone _did_ have my reg then there was serious cause for concern here.

Needless to say I got the same sort of crap back - "On this occasion no further action will be taken" - as if they were letting me off. No apology, no explanation as to whether it was their screw up or someone with my plate on.

And apparently this was from a camera that is monitored by human beings, not just a fixed roadside snapper...

Originally Posted by pete

Yep this does get up my nose. I got a PCN and an £80 fine demand for "being in a bus lane" is some place I had never heard of let alone been. Just to add a little sweetness it actually dropped through the door on my birthday (which at first made me think it might be a wind up!). I rang them up - get stuffed sir - write to us. So I did, pointing out that the car in question could not possibly be mine because for starters it wasn't a Vauxhall as stated on the PCN, enclosing a copy of my reg document. I also asked them to tell me if someone was driving around with my reg on their car, or whether they had just fecked up, because if someone _did_ have my reg then there was serious cause for concern here.

Needless to say I got the same sort of crap back - "On this occasion no further action will be taken" - as if they were letting me off. No apology, no explanation as to whether it was their screw up or someone with my plate on.

And apparently this was from a camera that is monitored by human beings, not just a fixed roadside snapper...

It would be very interesting, would it not, to know just how many thousands of people this happens to every year.
Of course, the 'official' line would be something like, "It's only a very small percentage of innocent drivers/riders who are affected".
I'd reply to that in one...no, two words,......."Utter bollox".

Ahhhh. good ol Blighty.
Didge please explain these traffic cameras, I don't understand?

From my experience if you just ignore all the crap it tends to go away.

See my electric bill saga from 2001-2005


If we're honest we still get tax demands (monthly) from the UK asking us to pay some stupid little amount of money for a discrepancy in our PAYE when we left the UK.

British beaurocracy, it can't be beaten.

Another one that'll **** you off............... We were over in Crawley for a few days in January and we had a hire car that I rented using my US license (bearing in mind that I am a UK citizen and license holder). Sam went through a 30 Gatso at 60 mph (naughty girl) and it "flashed" us.
A few weeks later we got the statement from the hire car company and we had been charged $30 (or £17) for a discrepancy regarding a speed camera. That was it!!! I know if Sam was using her UK license it would be at least three points and some sort of fine. You British shouldn't stand for this sort of ****