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Old 10-08-2021, 08:52 PM   #1
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So - I need a bit more help...

Busy day today. All fluids changed (oil, clutch and brakes), rear pads fitted, new filters, carbs cleaned. Wiring fault found and fixed so the brake light comes on for front brake. Engine fired with a bit of help and ran briefly.

The help I need is with the rev counter. When I turn on the ignition after a few moments the rev counter starts to move (engine not running). Over some time it eventually goes past the oil light and then stops. Turn ignition off and it returns to normal position. It does this every time and when the engine was running it didn't register, just kept on moving slowly round. Any input gratefully received.

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Old 14-08-2021, 05:03 PM   #2
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The help I need is with the rev counter. When I turn on the ignition after a few moments the rev counter starts to move (engine not running). Over some time it eventually goes past the oil light and then stops.
If it's like my 2000-2001 900s (which I expect it is), everything is electronic except the speedo. So it's got a stepper motor inside.

If it's properly connected (eg via the big multi-plug - try cleaning it/checking for correct signals etc), then it's probably defective in some way. Repair or replace. A known working unit would be useful; to swap in to isolate the problem.

They're pretty spendy new - but still available. https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/1462941301. Think I'd want to establish what the problem was first.

Similar-era 900SS and STx ones will likely fit/work, but the face won't match. It's often easier to find a complete console for one of these than the 2000-2002 Monsters eg:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164131962...IAAOSwiYledBMz
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224540163...0AAOSw9otg9YG8

There's a lot of used parts on Flea Bay, but Monster stuff from your specific timeframe is often thin on the ground in comparison to earlier or later.
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Old 14-08-2021, 06:22 PM   #3
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If it's like my 2000-2001 900s (which I expect it is), everything is electronic except the speedo. So it's got a stepper motor inside.
Here's a pic from another board of the stripped down clocks. It's all one circuit board by the looks:



Also, on there it said once the needles are removed they are a bugger to set back up correctly.
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Old 14-08-2021, 06:57 PM   #4
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Here's a pic from another board of the stripped down clocks. It's all one circuit board by the looks:
That's the later clocks, with the LCD odo, maybe the menus and all that stuff.

2000-2001 900ie and 2001 S4 have a mech speedo, which comes out of the binnacle in one piece.

The tach is separate too (see page 78 in the 2000 EU 900 Monster parts list, or search Steine Dinse for 40240111B - SD don't have a 2001 600 and the 2000 600 has the single clock so I reckon it'll be the same part). But good luck fixing one with a screwdriver and a hammer, because it'll be entirely electronic inside. But it can at least be replaced individually.

Here's a picture of a 40240111B: https://www.corsasbk.com/product/40240111b/

Few years ago, ebay seller valtermotousa had a bunch of NOS speedos and tachos for 2000-2001 Monsters they were selling for $100 US or so (snagged one myself to fix the trip on my Sie/get a Euro dial), but they seem to be out now, and only have ST2/900SS items left https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164131962...IAAOSwiYledBMz
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Old 14-08-2021, 08:57 PM   #5
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Nice little bike You'll want to sort the rear damper, the little motor will make you work but the chassis will manage more than you can throw at it and still be composed.

Years ago I did swap the stepper from an accident smashed clock set into mine where the rev stepper had failed. Bit fiddly but do able. And yes, sticking the needles back on is a real PIA.
The old one looked like one of the tracks had just worn out which isn't fixable.
I did have a part number for the stepper but had some trouble finding a source for a single unit
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