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Old 19-11-2015, 12:36 PM   #1
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Lever design different years

Very simple question here... Did the brake and clutch levers change throughout the years on the 796/696?

I'm looking at buying a cheapo CNCed set on ebay, and the fitment normally says '796 from 2011 onwards', and one also says '696 from 2009 onwards'. The problem is, I have a 796 from 2010!

Am I right in assuming that there is no difference and they'll all fit?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3113710792...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2010316172...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Old 19-11-2015, 03:23 PM   #2
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My 796 is also from 2010, but I spoke to Moto Rapido recently, and apparently the 796 wasn't officially released till 2011.

So I think that you will be fine buying the 2011 onwards ones.
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Old 19-11-2015, 03:28 PM   #3
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oh cool, so the retailers think it was only around from 2011. Thanks. £15 levers here I come!
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Old 19-11-2015, 03:31 PM   #4
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I have heard of cheap chinese levers causing brake lock ups.

Ask LousCannon.

I do have some nice ASV levers for sale, however they won't fit the standard coffin style brakes, but they will fit the Brembo axial style master cylinders I also have for sale!
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Old 19-11-2015, 03:47 PM   #5
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How would they cause lock ups? I think its just hearsay. Between the pivot and the section pushing the master cylinder it is just one piece of solid aluminium
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Old 19-11-2015, 03:51 PM   #6
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No idea, but Jim defo had a lock up whilst on track, I've seen the pictures of him on the back of the recovery vehicle.

I have raced with people who have used cheap chinese levers and they have had lock ups too.

Perhaps it only happens on track with the higher temps you will see in brakes.

Either way, ASV levers and Brembo axial master cylinders look much nicer.
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Old 19-11-2015, 03:51 PM   #7
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Check if they have the screw for engagement adjustability (where the lever contacts the plunger rod) and if they have the tabs for the micro switches.

If they don't have those features - useless and in worst case dangerous.
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Old 19-11-2015, 03:53 PM   #8
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Do they need those round plastic reservoirs linked via a pipe, rather than the built in square ones I have on my bike already? If so, I think that looks worse!
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Old 19-11-2015, 03:57 PM   #9
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You have built in reservoirs. No need for external reservoirs.

Here's a picture of the adjustment screw:
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Check if they have the screw for engagement adjustability (where the lever contacts the plunger rod) and if they have the tabs for the micro switches.
What are the 'micro switches' ? Do you mean the brake light switch?
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Old 19-11-2015, 04:03 PM   #11
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You have built in reservoirs. No need for external reservoirs.
So I suppose the adjustment screw adjusts the point at which it turns on the brake light/switch in relation to the actual position against the plunger, as the lever position for your fingers is adjusted separately.
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Do they need those round plastic reservoirs linked via a pipe, rather than the built in square ones I have on my bike already? If so, I think that looks worse!
They need separate reservoirs, but they don't have to be the plastic type.
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What are the 'micro switches' ? Do you mean the brake light switch?
Yes, the brake light switch isn't an issue - any lever will operate it. Clutch micro switch allows you to start the bike in gear, clutch pulled (useful at red light unintended engine stops). This switch requires a dedicated tab on the lever and not all aftermarket manufacturers know.

Here's a link about lever change:
http://www.ducatisuite.com/leverchange.html
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Clutch micro switch allows you to start the bike in gear, clutch pulled (useful at red light unintended engine stops). This switch requires a dedicated tab on the lever and not all aftermarket manufacturers know.
I don't understand this switch then - it is there to just tell the bike if the clutch is pulled in then yeh? Because my bike needs to have the clutch pulled to start, regardless of whether its in gear or not. If thats the case, if you dont have that switch, the bike will never know the clutch is pulled in, and so will never start?

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They need separate reservoirs, but they don't have to be the plastic type.
Unfortunately then, even though the levers look nice, adding the extra bulk of a separate reservoir means its a no from me. One of the reasons the 796 looks nicer than the 1100.
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