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[CK & AK]

Originally Posted by crust

if it was my bike, I wouldn't go back there

if you're not happy, go to a dealer who will make you happy, you may have to travel but its not often and the peace of mind is worth it.

why not take it to

Snells, they're in Alton, a nice ride out to Hamps

or

Moto Rapido, they're in Winchester

both have good reps, both are enthusiastic.

Take your bike to them, dont mention your past problems - it wont help and may put them off, ask them if they'll have a look at your bike and can they help

You'll be pleasantly surprised by their attitudes, if it needs doing under warranty they can do it as well as PVT

Crust

I'd do what Crust says - spot on advice.

[JerryXt]

ProTwins will honour the warranty if they fit a set of cans to a bike.

Thanks for all the feedback, to try and answer questions...

I have been riding bikes for 3 years and i use mainly for trips to work and back and then drives out in the country on weekends when it is not raining (which meant rarely this last summer).

When i have taken the bike in to have the clutch looked at, they have told me that there is no wear or damage to the plates and that it is just an issue with dry clutches in general.

I agree with many people that Pete and the guys in the workshop are on the level and really helpful but i am annoyed that i have to take my bike in to get the clutch plates flipped every two months rather than just doing a clutch replacement and seeing if the problem re-occurs on the new one.

The break issue is as follows... I would also expect the back break to lock if i stood on it but i am talking about breaking harder than a normal stop but not emergency stopping.

I can be travelling at less than 20mph and have to pull up quickly and it just locks, swings the back out and the clattering noise starts.

A cyclist shot out from in front of a bus as i was dring by the other day and i had to break - release - break - release several times to stop the bike, it frightened the life out of me as i thought i was going ot take her out (obvously she should have been looking and i did ask her if she had a death wish - using maybe slightly more coarse language.

Anyway, thanks for all the advice and any more is welcome. I think i am going to go and see protwins and ask them one more time to fix the clutch problem by replacing it and look at the brakes or i will take it elsewhere to have someone else do the work.

It is a real shame, my monster is brilliant and always put a smile on my face, but lately it just isn't the joy to ride it originally was.

Don't much like the new shape Monster either, i heard there is a naked 1098 in the pipeline, so may look at getting one of those if they come out in 2008.

Thanks

Neil

[nambduke]

Originally Posted by chief

........The break issue is as follows... I would also expect the back break to lock if i stood on it but i am talking about breaking harder than a normal stop but not emergency stopping.

I can be travelling at less than 20mph and have to pull up quickly and it just locks, swings the back out and the clattering noise starts.

A cyclist shot out from in front of a bus as i was dring by the other day and i had to break - release - break - release several times to stop the bike, it frightened the life out of me as i thought i was going ot take her out (obvously she should have been looking and i did ask her if she had a death wish - using maybe slightly more coarse language.

............

I've been reading with interest and would like to pass a few words of advice re the braking technique....

The rear brake is useful for very slow manoeuvres, u-turns etc, but for normal riding, front brake combined with controlled down shifting is all you need - especially on a Ducati. Mike Hailwood (showing my age now - NEVER used his back brake!!). You might want to experiment and use a bit of rear in wet conditions, but in reality, you brake a lot more gently in the wet anyway, but still the emphasis is to use the rear with extreme care.

For advanced techniques, rear brake can be used to tighten lines on bends at speed, but this really needs to carefully applied in road riding. Jumping on the rear brake pedal or trying to lock the rear wheel is really bad technique and an understanding of the forces applied should be found - try your local bikesafe or advanced training scheme where they should be able to identify any bad habits you migt have aquired over time. Refresher courses are good for everyone and I'd recommend that to anyone reading this thread.

As an instructor in an earlier life, the one single contributor to an out of control braking scenario was the over use of the rear brake. Many riders think over use of the front brake will mean you'll end up over the handlebars or the front will tuck....well you won't unless you are a stunt rider or Rossi who brake at the absolute maximum, the chances of that happening to you simply will not occur in road riding or under an emergency stop scenario. The use of either brake in a bend needs discouraged if at all possible for the obvious reasons!

As usual, practice makes perfect and education to which is the important brake...Hint - The Front....is the important message. You might have gotten into a bad habit by over using the rear brake in normal riding?

Clutch - keep on at the dealer. Obviously needs sorting. You'll get fobbed off with it being a consumable item and is subject to wear, but there may be an underlying problem?? Pressure plate/springs?? My M1000ie graunches occasionally, but it's just in the nature of the beast I think!

Regards,
Mark Nambduke

[JerryXt]

Chief, I'd say on most ducatis, don't use the rear brake - the front will give immensely superior performance and feedback. You'll be able to stop more quickly and with more confidence on the front. Many racers disconnect the rear.

I use the rear in town for the final couple of yards as the bike comes to a stop and occasionally to trim the rear when cornering or performing slow manouvers.

Re Pete, I agree he's a good guy. Have you phoned him about the issue? He's always got time to talk through the most trivial issue with me and I don't believe he treats me any differently than any other customer.

Anyway, enjoy the bike!

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Stuck between the S2R and a 695 in Black with Red Frame. Will trick up the 695 anyway. I am very indecisive.... What do you think? Have had a Van Van Suzuki so anything will be faster. Got to make a decision fairly lively or my name will be mud with a few dealers. Coventry may be making a great deal on 695 as they havemt got any S2R's, people dont seem to want to do a great deal on the S2R's at the mo, ...

[David Matthews]

I had a test ride on the S2R 800, you don't need to worry about it being less manageable than the 695. It's smooth at low speed, got a really nice clutch and feels physically very light to ride.

I thought at first that it seemed a bit soft, power wise but it goes well if you open it up.

Originally Posted by David Matthews

I had a test ride on the S2R 800, you don't need to worry about it being less manageable than the 695. It's smooth at low speed, got a really nice clutch and feels physically very light to ride.

I thought at first that it seemed a bit soft, power wise but it goes well if you open it up.

Cheers David,

I think the S2R will be for me, going to make an executive decision tomorrow. Cant afford the 1000 at the mo, and I know the 800 will be enough for me for a good while. I have an inner risk taking streak and I dont want to go to mad with the power band. Should have the bike in late December as will be putting large chunk down ASAP, will catch up with you for a spin in the new year.

Originally Posted by Rusty35

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Stuck between the S2R and a 695 in Black with Red Frame. Will trick up the 695 anyway. I am very indecisive.... What do you think? Have had a Van Van Suzuki so anything will be faster. Got to make a decision fairly lively or my name will be mud with a few dealers. Coventry may be making a great deal on 695 as they havemt got any S2R's, people dont seem to want to do a great deal on the S2R's at the mo, ...

Hey

Firstly, why buy the 695 when it will be replaced by the 696 early next year and therefore your bike will depreciate in value faster than the norm.

Secondly i think they are discontinuing the S2R 800 and only keeping the 1000 version like mine, so don't buy an 800 either.

If you can afford it (and although i have a few problems with mine) go for the S2R 1000, it has loads of torque, loads of grunt, and is (generrally) a joy to ride.

didn't realise Italian bike's came with back brakes..........??
Seriously, to echo a previous comment, stick with the front. I've owned five Italians and all had not existent back brakes - esp, on some, when the fluid's been boiled by the exhausts!

Originally Posted by chief

Hey

Firstly, why buy the 695 when it will be replaced by the 696 early next year and therefore your bike will depreciate in value faster than the norm.

Secondly i think they are discontinuing the S2R 800 and only keeping the 1000 version like mine, so don't buy an 800 either.

If you can afford it (and although i have a few problems with mine) go for the S2R 1000, it has loads of torque, loads of grunt, and is (generrally) a joy to ride.

Thought that may be a bit heavy duty for me being my first big bike, 1000, also it may prove a little pricier as I am buying new. The new 696 is not working for me on certain level's as I have always been attracted to the classic look of the original Monster's and the fact they are more raw machine like. I went through a stage of loving the ZX750 in Black, then the Ninja but came back to the Ducati. Even before I had a Bike when ever I heard or saw a Monster go by I looked at it with great desire and jealousy...and my inner voice said "You shall be mine"....LOL

Going to try and snap up the S2R 800 in Black I think as I hate the clocks on the 696 as well. I love dials and neon, not digital numbers...

Thanks for you advice chief. The S2R 1000 is £7995 is it not?

[David Matthews]

Whilst we need to be a bit shrewd when investing in a bike, the most important thing must be to go for one that does it for you. I'd be pretty miffed if I bought one simply because it would depreciate less but then wished that I'd bought another model. Biking is more about fun than being an investment.

I went for the 1000 rather than the 800, it's just as easy to ride but you notice the difference if you give it some. I paid £6300 at the end of April, quite a few dealers discount them.

Originally Posted by Rusty35

Thought that may be a bit heavy duty for me being my first big bike, 1000, also it may prove a little pricier as I am buying new. The new 696 is not working for me on certain level's as I have always been attracted to the classic look of the original Monster's and the fact they are more raw machine like. I went through a stage of loving the ZX750 in Black, then the Ninja but came back to the Ducati. Even before I had a Bike when ever I heard or saw a Monster go by I looked at it with great desire and jealousy...and my inner voice said "You shall be mine"....LOL

Going to try and snap up the S2R 800 in Black I think as I hate the clocks on the 696 as well. I love dials and neon, not digital numbers...

Thanks for you advice chief. The S2R 1000 is £7995 is it not?

I think i paid £7k for the 1000.

Just in case you're interested, Natty Boy has his S2R1000 for sale at the moment. Not sure of the details but if you email him, I'm sure he'll respond.

By the way, my first bike after passing my test was a Monster S4 (one of the 916cc watercooled beasts!!). A bike is only as fast and scary as you make it. Thats why they have throttles.

[JerryXt]

Cheif, you really need to speak to Pete at Protwins.

It's not really fair to sign up to a forum and slag off a dealer in your first post, then do nothing to try to resolve the situation. I had him on the phone again this morning saying that he hasn't heard from you and asking me if I knew what was happening.

PM me if you're not comfortable talking to them directly. I'd be happy to talk through any problems you've got and go back to them for you.