Advice wanted re new KTM toy!

01-11-2007, 06:48 PM

Finally got round to buying on of these KTM toys so i now need to get some kit.

Any advice from the monster club dirty weekend group? I'll need a lid , boots something water and mudproof........

There's a long list and christmas is comming!

http://www.mutters.f2s.com/misc/ktmmmmm.jpg

01-11-2007, 06:59 PM

Yehee, welcome to the orange club!

I'm sure other UKMUCers will be along soon to give you advice.

I would recommend:

Alpinestars Tech 4s with the enduro sole (more grippy than most)
Any decent motocross helmet (I've got an Airoh) plus goggles
For winter, I just use old waterproof road bike stuff. No point in spending loads of money, especially in the early days, as you'll be falling off a lot in it! Also, by using an old road jacket, you don't need bodyarmour.

I think you should get yourself down to the Dirt Bike Show at Stoneleigh 7-9th December. Plenty of bargains to be had there!

Of course, you could go the whole hog and dress yourself like your bike:

01-11-2007, 07:09 PM

well done mutters - orange is the way forward!

along with the above - Knee protection - if your trousers don't have good protection get some decent knee guards.

for all day trips a camel back is a must for keeping hydrated.

thermals for winter riding - socks.

Jack up stand for maintenance.

Maps - Sarah's copied up all of Jens maps so has all the trails marked in Sussex, Hants etc

Did i mention I've got some super moto wheels for sale??

there is talk of trip in the hampshire sometime in the near future - would be great to meet up.

Stafford · 01-11-2007, 08:26 PM

KTM now do a toaster as a handy accompaniment amongst other items.

http://www.dirtbikebook.com/acatalog...Equipment.html

01-11-2007, 08:28 PM

Shhh Stafford, you're spoiling Roger's Xmas surprise!

CK & AK · 01-11-2007, 08:42 PM

Got the right colour then Mutters me old chum

- you coming out to play on Sat with it? (gissa go Mister???)

01-11-2007, 08:46 PM

Cheers 4 the advice , so a lid and goggles rather than a Arai Tour X visored jobbie?
Haven't got much in the way of wet weather gear, just an oversuit cos i don't do rain!...... untill now...
Any shops you can recommend for some browsing?

@rse, already got a set of KTM supermoto wheels, did a sm trackday at Lydd on WR250 and 450's a couple of years ago which was awesome fun.

And that Dirtbikebook link leads to a very bad place

01-11-2007, 08:49 PM

Should be out CK, might put the knobbly wheels on the monster!

Nickj · 01-11-2007, 09:04 PM

Beer crates used to be the biz as stands, the modern flimsy plastic ones not so good though. The old classic R-Whites were tops! Also acted as a good place to keep stuff.
Knee protection?? Never did as it's the rotational damage and hyper extension of the knee joint that causes you real problems (the first destroys your cartlidges, the second your cruciates which is very bad news

).. for that knee braces are good. There's always falling off, so best thing is don't. Getting knees/hands/body hit by roosted rocks might be a problem, answer is if you're following someone you aren't infront (In trail riding you shouldn't get this as no one will be going that quick or applying that much wellie)
If your trail riding try and use some gentler tyres, the more you rip up the surface the more likely downgrading the route in the future is. Besides theres heaps more fun to be had riding a knackered trials tyre with minus zero grip through axle deep mud than an MX or enduro tyre with virtually no grip.
You can do the whole south downs mid winter on a knackered X11 without any real hassle plus time for pub stops for light refreshments.

Oh never ever get anything that matches the bike or any other item of clothing unless someone forces you to (eg sponsorship) LOL

01-11-2007, 09:07 PM

I've definitely around for that Stonleigh show and i'm up for the Hampshire trip too.

All i've got to do now is get fit and grow some longer legs!

01-11-2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickj

Oh never ever get anything that matches the bike or any other item of clothing unless someone forces you to (eg sponsorship) LOL

Think i'll make my own, purple shell suit and some egg boxes should do the trick.

01-11-2007, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickj

You can do the whole south downs mid winter on a knackered X11 without any real hassle plus time for pub stops for light refreshments.

Now that sounds more like it, pubs...
good point on the tyres, i used to run a 175 yam and it's trail pirellis were real good fun on the road too.

Nickj · 01-11-2007, 09:28 PM

Superb and you won't worry about getting it liberally covered with the UK's finest sticky mud LOL Well you hope it's just mud!! Ladybird might still have a bit of spare fabric to fashion a jacket from!!

A good exercise is a length of broom stick, fix a foot or two of rope to the middle and add a weight (.5 kg will do). If you want to be flash add some old h/bar grips. Use your wrists to wind it up and down. Repeat... repeat... repeat
Wave arms in air when your forearms pump up and it starts to really hurt.
It's simple to do and less painful than having the same happen to your arms when out riding.

And bag of sugar (no cheating and using the equivalent in sweetners mind) sit and raise legs till knees are about straight lower. repeat till bag falls off or boredom/pain intervenesLOL Will strengthen your knee muscles a treat. Throw in a few 'sitting against the wall with no chairs too'.

Nickj · 01-11-2007, 09:41 PM

South downs gives you a good range of pubs, essential when you're out playing. It's a great shame Rons still not at the Red Lion (Chalton) you could walk in in any state and get an honest welcome.
On Tyres I used to get mine pre-knackered they're surprisingly good specially when trickling. All the army land used to insist you raced on them, sheesh they had tanks rip up trenches BT would be proud of and us teeny bikes were classed as 'damaging' the ground.
They work OK in mud and sand, fine to trickle with but they walk around a bit at speed. Then again at 60 odd on soft sand nothings very stable LOL

01-11-2007, 09:56 PM

The problem with the South Downs is that there are no legal trails left in Sussex (good job Jen's not around - she might start ranting about the government!). However, hop over the border into Hampshire, and it's the trail rider's playground! Damn that wet chalk though.

We often go over to Wiltshire, where you can ride for days without seeing anyone else. A trailer is useful for that! My little CRF230 only has 20bhp on a good day, and with the knobblies it's not much fun to ride on fast roads. Great on the trails though!

Muttley, have you had the KTM lowered? If you're a bit teetery, it can give you loads of confidence having it lowered. You can always return it to normal height later. Being of the short-legged disposition myself (as you know) I had the CRF lowered, even though it's one of the lowest trail bikes around. Doesn't cause any problems with the kind of trails that we ride.

Anyway, if you're going to Stoneleigh on the Saturday, watch out for a bunch of us.

Just get out there and get muddy! I love trail riding, and it's thanks to UKMOC that I've got into it.

01-11-2007, 06:48 PM	#1
Muttley Guest Posts: n/a	Advice wanted re new KTM toy! Finally got round to buying on of these KTM toys so i now need to get some kit. Any advice from the monster club dirty weekend group? I'll need a lid , boots something water and mudproof........ There's a long list and christmas is comming! http://www.mutters.f2s.com/misc/ktmmmmm.jpg Last edited by Muttley; 01-11-2007 at 06:51 PM..

01-11-2007, 08:26 PM	#4
Stafford P3, nice. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calne Bike: S2r 1000 Posts: 2,145	KTM now do a toaster as a handy accompaniment amongst other items. http://www.dirtbikebook.com/acatalog...Equipment.html __________________ celeres-racing.blogspot.co.uk/ The probability of survival is equal to the angle of arrival.

01-11-2007, 09:04 PM	#9
Nickj Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forest Of Dean Bike: S2r Posts: 3,201	Beer crates used to be the biz as stands, the modern flimsy plastic ones not so good though. The old classic R-Whites were tops! Also acted as a good place to keep stuff. Knee protection?? Never did as it's the rotational damage and hyper extension of the knee joint that causes you real problems (the first destroys your cartlidges, the second your cruciates which is very bad news ).. for that knee braces are good. There's always falling off, so best thing is don't. Getting knees/hands/body hit by roosted rocks might be a problem, answer is if you're following someone you aren't infront (In trail riding you shouldn't get this as no one will be going that quick or applying that much wellie) If your trail riding try and use some gentler tyres, the more you rip up the surface the more likely downgrading the route in the future is. Besides theres heaps more fun to be had riding a knackered trials tyre with minus zero grip through axle deep mud than an MX or enduro tyre with virtually no grip. You can do the whole south downs mid winter on a knackered X11 without any real hassle plus time for pub stops for light refreshments. Oh never ever get anything that matches the bike or any other item of clothing unless someone forces you to (eg sponsorship) LOL __________________ "The final measure of any rider's skill is the inverse ratio of his preferred Traveling Speed to the number of bad scars on his body." Song of the sausage creature

01-11-2007, 09:28 PM	#13
Nickj Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forest Of Dean Bike: S2r Posts: 3,201	Superb and you won't worry about getting it liberally covered with the UK's finest sticky mud LOL Well you hope it's just mud!! Ladybird might still have a bit of spare fabric to fashion a jacket from!! A good exercise is a length of broom stick, fix a foot or two of rope to the middle and add a weight (.5 kg will do). If you want to be flash add some old h/bar grips. Use your wrists to wind it up and down. Repeat... repeat... repeat Wave arms in air when your forearms pump up and it starts to really hurt. It's simple to do and less painful than having the same happen to your arms when out riding. And bag of sugar (no cheating and using the equivalent in sweetners mind) sit and raise legs till knees are about straight lower. repeat till bag falls off or boredom/pain intervenesLOL Will strengthen your knee muscles a treat. Throw in a few 'sitting against the wall with no chairs too'. __________________ "The final measure of any rider's skill is the inverse ratio of his preferred Traveling Speed to the number of bad scars on his body." Song of the sausage creature

01-11-2007, 09:41 PM	#14
Nickj Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forest Of Dean Bike: S2r Posts: 3,201	South downs gives you a good range of pubs, essential when you're out playing. It's a great shame Rons still not at the Red Lion (Chalton) you could walk in in any state and get an honest welcome. On Tyres I used to get mine pre-knackered they're surprisingly good specially when trickling. All the army land used to insist you raced on them, sheesh they had tanks rip up trenches BT would be proud of and us teeny bikes were classed as 'damaging' the ground. They work OK in mud and sand, fine to trickle with but they walk around a bit at speed. Then again at 60 odd on soft sand nothings very stable LOL __________________ "The final measure of any rider's skill is the inverse ratio of his preferred Traveling Speed to the number of bad scars on his body." Song of the sausage creature

01-11-2007, 06:59 PM	#2
SazzaG Guest Posts: n/a	Yehee, welcome to the orange club! I'm sure other UKMUCers will be along soon to give you advice. I would recommend: Alpinestars Tech 4s with the enduro sole (more grippy than most) Any decent motocross helmet (I've got an Airoh) plus goggles For winter, I just use old waterproof road bike stuff. No point in spending loads of money, especially in the early days, as you'll be falling off a lot in it! Also, by using an old road jacket, you don't need bodyarmour. I think you should get yourself down to the Dirt Bike Show at Stoneleigh 7-9th December. Plenty of bargains to be had there! Of course, you could go the whole hog and dress yourself like your bike:

01-11-2007, 07:09 PM	#3
Rogerg Guest Posts: n/a	well done mutters - orange is the way forward! along with the above - Knee protection - if your trousers don't have good protection get some decent knee guards. for all day trips a camel back is a must for keeping hydrated. thermals for winter riding - socks. Jack up stand for maintenance. Maps - Sarah's copied up all of Jens maps so has all the trails marked in Sussex, Hants etc Did i mention I've got some super moto wheels for sale?? there is talk of trip in the hampshire sometime in the near future - would be great to meet up.

01-11-2007, 08:28 PM	#5
SazzaG Guest Posts: n/a	Shhh Stafford, you're spoiling Roger's Xmas surprise!

01-11-2007, 08:42 PM	#6
CK & AK flob-a-lob-a-lob Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NW Surrey Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 3,306	Got the right colour then Mutters me old chum - you coming out to play on Sat with it? (gissa go Mister???)

01-11-2007, 08:46 PM	#7
Muttley Guest Posts: n/a	Cheers 4 the advice , so a lid and goggles rather than a Arai Tour X visored jobbie? Haven't got much in the way of wet weather gear, just an oversuit cos i don't do rain!...... untill now... Any shops you can recommend for some browsing? @rse, already got a set of KTM supermoto wheels, did a sm trackday at Lydd on WR250 and 450's a couple of years ago which was awesome fun. And that Dirtbikebook link leads to a very bad place

01-11-2007, 08:49 PM	#8
Muttley Guest Posts: n/a	Should be out CK, might put the knobbly wheels on the monster!

01-11-2007, 09:07 PM	#10
Muttley Guest Posts: n/a	I've definitely around for that Stonleigh show and i'm up for the Hampshire trip too. All i've got to do now is get fit and grow some longer legs!

01-11-2007, 09:56 PM	#15
SazzaG Guest Posts: n/a	The problem with the South Downs is that there are no legal trails left in Sussex (good job Jen's not around - she might start ranting about the government!). However, hop over the border into Hampshire, and it's the trail rider's playground! Damn that wet chalk though. We often go over to Wiltshire, where you can ride for days without seeing anyone else. A trailer is useful for that! My little CRF230 only has 20bhp on a good day, and with the knobblies it's not much fun to ride on fast roads. Great on the trails though! Muttley, have you had the KTM lowered? If you're a bit teetery, it can give you loads of confidence having it lowered. You can always return it to normal height later. Being of the short-legged disposition myself (as you know) I had the CRF lowered, even though it's one of the lowest trail bikes around. Doesn't cause any problems with the kind of trails that we ride. Anyway, if you're going to Stoneleigh on the Saturday, watch out for a bunch of us. Just get out there and get muddy! I love trail riding, and it's thanks to UKMOC that I've got into it.