Advice on bike security please!

bigredduke · 23-12-2010, 05:09 PM

We have extended our garage as part of an extension to the house. Because we are putting down a new concrete floor slab it is an ideal opportunity to fit a substantial ground anchor at the same time. I initially thought I would fit two, one for each bike, but would it be better to just fit one and use a longer chain through both bikes? Any advice, experience or recommendations with these things? The garage will also be alarmed.

23-12-2010, 05:23 PM

are these being cast into the concrete or just dyna bolted down?

and if you sell your house the new purchasers may not share your enthusiasn for locking things down and how easy is it to remove these

had this problem when I built a 5m x 5m steel cage into the corner of a basement to secure bikes in, new purchasers wanted it removed before they would buy the house

bigredduke · 23-12-2010, 05:29 PM

The idea is to concrete them in flush with the surface so that there is nothing to trip over or get in the way of anything in the future.

Perhaps something like this? http://www.yanchor.com/The%20Y%20anchor.html

Char · 23-12-2010, 05:44 PM

ones that you pull up out of floor are good - see last item

http://www.elitesecuritysupplies.com/ground_anchors.htm

23-12-2010, 06:01 PM

general idea is to use as short a length of chain as possible to make it more awkward to get cutting tools etc into position to use, also makes it harder to lock up yourself like, so the corner's of the garage are good places to have the ground anchor situated, I don't know what else your putting in there but if you suddenly change your mind then an anchor in the other corner might be useful ~:?

23-12-2010, 06:05 PM

I also remember a 'how do they do that' program on tele

where they were making safes for banks etc

and the concrete they used (although top secret in composition) has a bucket load of swarf in it presumably makes it more resistant to drilling or something ~:?

chris yeatman · 23-12-2010, 06:07 PM

i have one of these in concrete.

http://www.motrax.co.uk/index.php?mo...uct&id_prd=261

BigOz · 23-12-2010, 06:23 PM

Hi,

Also think defence in depth make it hard to get in the garage too, I've seen a few garages broken in to by attacking the corners and bending them out or by forcing the top runners out of the rail and entering over the door.

A simple plank or piece of box section coach bolted to the door makes the corners difficult to deform.

Other than that try to get the anchored chain through the frame or another dificult to remove part rather than through the wheels.

Andy

gary tompkins · 23-12-2010, 07:24 PM

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/l...8-claymore.htm

23-12-2010, 07:26 PM

I,m not suggesting that you dont take precautions, but if the ground anchor is impregnable, the scum bag will just cut the chain.

johnboy44 · 23-12-2010, 08:39 PM

I was in the same position 15 years ago, i had one cast into the slab at build time but after the purchase of more bikes I wished I had put 3 or 4 in

Char · 23-12-2010, 08:53 PM

Guard dog?

23-12-2010, 09:21 PM

The weakest point of any brick built garage is the door - if they can't get past that they can't get anything!!

Mr.Number · 23-12-2010, 10:12 PM

Bigred, I have a Concave Built in Ground Anchor which is 'Sold Secure' and recognised by insurance companies. Its brand new and I paid around £60 delivered. I cant use it as the ground where I wanted to plant it isnt suitable to be concreted, so its now sitting in my spare room doing nothing. Its an impressive solid product and when installed, fits flush with the ground, so just looks like youv got 2 holes in the ground where you feed your chain through.
If your interested let me know.

utopia · 24-12-2010, 04:21 AM

Woooooo......paint job, char !!!
Very, very.
Who's is that then ?

23-12-2010, 05:09 PM	#1
bigredduke Nothing to see here Join Date: May 2005 Location: brough Bike: M1100evo Posts: 1,546	Advice on bike security please! We have extended our garage as part of an extension to the house. Because we are putting down a new concrete floor slab it is an ideal opportunity to fit a substantial ground anchor at the same time. I initially thought I would fit two, one for each bike, but would it be better to just fit one and use a longer chain through both bikes? Any advice, experience or recommendations with these things? The garage will also be alarmed.

23-12-2010, 05:44 PM	#4
Char We're all mad here Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Wiltshire Bike: Other Not a Ducati Posts: 1,536	ones that you pull up out of floor are good - see last item http://www.elitesecuritysupplies.com/ground_anchors.htm __________________ If you don't know where you are going any road can take you there

23-12-2010, 06:07 PM	#7
chris yeatman I still have the s4r! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: salisbury, wiltshire Bike: S4r Posts: 1,896	i have one of these in concrete. http://www.motrax.co.uk/index.php?mo...uct&id_prd=261 __________________ What's that coming over the hill.......

23-12-2010, 07:24 PM	#9
gary tompkins 1/2 man - 1/2 pogo-stick Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dartford, Kent Bike: M900ie Posts: 7,241	http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/l...8-claymore.htm __________________ GT Fully paid up member of the S.A.S. (Scottoiler Appreciation Society) 27,000 miles on original chain - and still going strong!

23-12-2010, 08:53 PM	#12
Char We're all mad here Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Wiltshire Bike: Other Not a Ducati Posts: 1,536	Guard dog? __________________ If you don't know where you are going any road can take you there

23-12-2010, 05:23 PM	#2
popelli Guest Posts: n/a	are these being cast into the concrete or just dyna bolted down? and if you sell your house the new purchasers may not share your enthusiasn for locking things down and how easy is it to remove these had this problem when I built a 5m x 5m steel cage into the corner of a basement to secure bikes in, new purchasers wanted it removed before they would buy the house

23-12-2010, 05:29 PM	#3
bigredduke Nothing to see here Join Date: May 2005 Location: brough Bike: M1100evo Posts: 1,546	The idea is to concrete them in flush with the surface so that there is nothing to trip over or get in the way of anything in the future. Perhaps something like this? http://www.yanchor.com/The%20Y%20anchor.html

23-12-2010, 06:01 PM	#5
Scotty Guest Posts: n/a	general idea is to use as short a length of chain as possible to make it more awkward to get cutting tools etc into position to use, also makes it harder to lock up yourself like, so the corner's of the garage are good places to have the ground anchor situated, I don't know what else your putting in there but if you suddenly change your mind then an anchor in the other corner might be useful ~:?

23-12-2010, 06:05 PM	#6
Scotty Guest Posts: n/a	I also remember a 'how do they do that' program on tele where they were making safes for banks etc and the concrete they used (although top secret in composition) has a bucket load of swarf in it presumably makes it more resistant to drilling or something ~:?

23-12-2010, 06:23 PM	#8
BigOz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chatham Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 714	Hi, Also think defence in depth make it hard to get in the garage too, I've seen a few garages broken in to by attacking the corners and bending them out or by forcing the top runners out of the rail and entering over the door. A simple plank or piece of box section coach bolted to the door makes the corners difficult to deform. Other than that try to get the anchored chain through the frame or another dificult to remove part rather than through the wheels. Andy

23-12-2010, 07:26 PM	#10
Dookbob Guest Posts: n/a	I,m not suggesting that you dont take precautions, but if the ground anchor is impregnable, the scum bag will just cut the chain.

23-12-2010, 08:39 PM	#11
johnboy44 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: poole Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 50	I was in the same position 15 years ago, i had one cast into the slab at build time but after the purchase of more bikes I wished I had put 3 or 4 in

23-12-2010, 09:21 PM	#13
Gordon H Guest Posts: n/a	The weakest point of any brick built garage is the door - if they can't get past that they can't get anything!!

23-12-2010, 10:12 PM	#14
Mr.Number Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: merseyside Bike: S2r 1000 Posts: 168	... Bigred, I have a Concave Built in Ground Anchor which is 'Sold Secure' and recognised by insurance companies. Its brand new and I paid around £60 delivered. I cant use it as the ground where I wanted to plant it isnt suitable to be concreted, so its now sitting in my spare room doing nothing. Its an impressive solid product and when installed, fits flush with the ground, so just looks like youv got 2 holes in the ground where you feed your chain through. If your interested let me know.

24-12-2010, 04:21 AM	#15
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,546	Woooooo......paint job, char !!! Very, very. Who's is that then ?