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03-09-2019, 09:52 AM | #1 |
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Advice please on rebuilding a 2005 Monster
Hi Everyone,
My godson and I have just bought a 2005 Monster 620 Dark - 02, with a V5 & all the paperwork from the previous owner, in 4 large wooden crates. We have unboxed everything and are starting to clean and label all the bits, ready for a full rebuild. It has been boxed for about 5 years. The engine turns and it looks like we have a complete bike. We have ordered a Haynes workshop manual. Our plans are: Drain engine oil and replace. What oil please? Replace cambelts, plugs, air filter, fuel pipes, battery? Where to buy these parts please? Remove alarm to stop noise and immobiliser kicking in when we come to start it? Replace 2013 dated tyres? The spark plugs are old Champions RA6 HC & RA4 HC - are these correct, or can any UKMOC members suggest best plugs to buy please? We need to replace 4 badly corroded exhaust studs. Cann we use studs from local nut & bolt shop? Cambelts are labelled 190 187 5 208 DS & 153 5 208 DS - can we just order 2005 Monster belts? Replace belt tensioners or service & keep? The injector packs have been cleaned with carb cleaner - do we need to strip and rebuild like an old carb, or should they work OK with new fuel please? ANY ADVICE WELCOMED PLEASE? We live in Norfolk - Any MOC members live near us who would like a look at it over a cuppa and biscuits? Thanks in anticipation. Richard & Hamish |
03-09-2019, 10:28 AM | #2 |
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What sort of biscuits have you got?
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03-09-2019, 10:38 AM | #3 |
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Welcome to the forum Hamish , good luck with your project and I'm sure there will be plenty of help forthcoming from the other members, hobnobs is always a good starting point .
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03-09-2019, 10:54 AM | #4 |
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+fuel filter
parts: Call Craig or Luke at Moto Rapido 01962 873981 (mention UKMOC for 10% discount on most parts) Super efficient mail order. |
03-09-2019, 10:56 AM | #5 |
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Drain engine oil and replace. What oil please? 10w40 Motorcycle specific semi-synth. Don't use car oil or the clutch will slip.
Replace cambelts, Ducati belts from Moto Rapido, or Exactfit from http://www.exactuk.com/about-exactfit-cam-belts/ plugs, Use NGK, not Champion, correct number will be in the Haynes manual. air filter, and oil filter.. K&N from ebay fuel pipes, Moto Rapido again. battery? Motobatt.. Price doesn't vary much but shop around on ebay Where to buy these parts please? Remove alarm to stop noise and immobiliser kicking in when we come to start it? Pass! Replace 2013 dated tyres? Oh yes definitely!! The spark plugs are old Champions RA6 HC & RA4 HC - are these correct, or can any UKMOC members suggest best plugs to buy please? As above NGK We need to replace 4 badly corroded exhaust studs. Cann we use studs from local nut & bolt shop? Yes, use stainless if you can. Cambelts are labelled 190 187 5 208 DS & 153 5 208 DS - can we just order 2005 Monster belts? Order for 620.. As above. Replace belt tensioners or service & keep? If they spin freely and are not rough, use again. Expect a little resistance from the seals The injector packs have been cleaned with carb cleaner - do we need to strip and rebuild like an old carb, or should they work OK with new fuel please? Ultra-sound cleaner is best... Pop them in the one I currently have on loan from Utopia, a member on here. ANY ADVICE WELCOMED PLEASE? We live in Norfolk - Any MOC members live near us who would like a look at it over a cuppa and biscuits? See previous post.. Thanks in anticipation. Richard & Hamish
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03-09-2019, 11:00 AM | #6 |
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NGK DCPR8E
I'd use something like these on the exhaust studs https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Copper-Fl...r=561918993594 |
03-09-2019, 11:09 AM | #7 | |
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Quote:
Slar plenty of coppaslip round if you use stainless studs... You'll know how to slar it if you're true Norfolk...
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03-09-2019, 11:58 AM | #8 |
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Yep, just to confirm that if Gazza is ok with it, you can certainly stick your injectors in my ultrasonic cleaner which he currently has on loan.
Is the fuel tank plastic or steel ? If plastic, be aware that ethanol in petrol causes them to swell and not fit properly. Draining and leaving them to dry out makes them shrink back to original dimensions. I imagine its completely empty now, but worth making sure. |
03-09-2019, 07:27 PM | #9 |
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Hamish, welcome. I'm not that far from you, in Aylsham. You don't say whether this is your first Monster so the following may be superfluous but the hardest thing I found when fiddling with (sorry, maintaining) mine was dropping the assumptions that come with working on Japanese motorcycles - the design approaches are culturally different.
This link may help https://www.ducatiomaha.com/pages/ducati-oem-parts - drop down the page until you find the appropriate year and model for part numbers/exploded diagrams to supplement the Haynes manual. Be aware that buying new Ducati bits will avoid the minefield of trying to find second-hand stuff on Ebay, which will fit A Monster but not necessarily YOUR Monster (don't ask how much I spent finding that out). Ask on this Forum if you have a problem, there will always be someone who can give an answer in my experience. Best of luck with the 4 boxes of bits, I look forward to photos of the completed build.
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03-09-2019, 08:11 PM | #10 |
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Hello and welcome. I can guarantee you that I'll be absolutely no help to you technically, but I'll definitely be following your progress with great interest!
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03-09-2019, 08:31 PM | #11 |
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Google is our friend
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03-09-2019, 10:54 PM | #12 |
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Biscuits.....did someone day biscuits!
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04-09-2019, 09:15 PM | #13 |
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Trust you two!!!
Hamish and Richard, good luck with the rebuild- you know what they say when doing these things to always allow your budget, plus at least half again over? That theory may be tested!
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05-09-2019, 08:19 AM | #14 |
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Especially the biscuit kitty!
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05-09-2019, 09:26 AM | #15 |
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Ug oh! Better allow more for the biscuits already...Leave the Hobnobs alone Boris you 2@.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...34p?ocid=ientp
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