non starter for 10

02-02-2006, 09:05 AM

stopped of to buy a bottle of red last night, hopped on the bike after a succesful transaction and nothing, nada, zip bumped it fine then continued home...I weill look at that in the morning.

this morning hit the button fine fiddled about with the choke as it was a bvit nippy last night and now nothing again. Battery fine fuses fine starter button taken ap[art and looks fine, I suspect it is a dodgy connectioin but if anyone has any less fiddly solutions then please be my guest?

thanks.
Alex.

ps.feel free to hijack!

02-02-2006, 09:08 AM

...............I take it everything is nice and tight??

02-02-2006, 09:49 AM

If nothing happened it has to be a faulty electrical connection. Did the starter turn at all?

02-02-2006, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steviej

...............I take it everything is nice and tight??

wot no innuendo, ooh er missus

02-02-2006, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pugi

If nothing happened it has to be a faulty electrical connection. Did the starter turn at all?

no, I suspect a connection at the ign barrel of the starter button, as I say it did this yesterday evening, then went to start as per normal this morning (and would have done if the engine was warm but it was a cold start) then after a few seconds delay whilst adjusting the keihin idle I hit the button and nothing.

02-02-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by A Yerbury

stopped of to buy a bottle of red last night, hopped on the bike after a succesful transaction and nothing, nada, zip bumped it fine then continued home...I weill look at that in the morning.

this morning hit the button fine fiddled about with the choke as it was a bvit nippy last night and now nothing again. Battery fine fuses fine starter button taken ap[art and looks fine, I suspect it is a dodgy connectioin but if anyone has any less fiddly solutions then please be my guest?

thanks.
Alex.

ps.feel free to hijack!

This is obviously stressing you, so many typo's, when you usually have so few.

Sorry, but I can't add to the advice already given.

02-02-2006, 10:20 AM

im trying to refrain from saying anything too stupid (difficult for me, dont ya know)

try tracing the fault wit a magnet

02-02-2006, 10:22 AM

My lad just had a similar thing with his Virago 125. The problem was intermittent at the beginning and slowly worsened until he got no starter at all. turned out to be the relay for the starter motor.
Maybe you'll think twice about stopping just for ketchup next time.

02-02-2006, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by paul620sie

This is obviously stressing you, so many typo's, when you usually have so few.

Sorry, but I can't add to the advice already given.

my sub editor has thrown a sicky... in fact the edit box overwrites previous text? which is a drag and why on occasion one can not be arsewd!

02-02-2006, 10:54 AM

can you short the relay ? that will tell u if your relay has gone.
i wouldnt recommend using a chewing gun wrapper.

02-02-2006, 11:02 AM

Alex, I had a similar problem that started as an intermittent fault and deteriorated until finally nothin.....dead as the proverbial dodo.

Turned out to be the voltage regulator/ rectifier thingy. This has been modified now from Ducati and is Japanese, some modification needs to be done to the loom but pretty straight forward really. But expensive of course, alternatively try these people http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/erol.html#1x0&&

Be lucky
S

02-02-2006, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark cross

wot no innuendo, ooh er missus

Is that a Iberian suppository by any chance.........

02-02-2006, 12:57 PM

mecahanic seems to think it's a connection around the solenoid? (he has not seen it, this was using PSI and the telephone) I will have a poke about later -with a haynes manual, as I always forget which bit is the regulator/rectifier/solenoid...not too bad considering that I do know what the battery, coils and alternator look like.

thanks for your thoughts though.
A.

02-02-2006, 01:02 PM

Alex
I had a very similar problem recently; hit the starter...diddly squat.
Turned out to be the two pin plug on the starter relay, which is not secured by any retaining clip and is therefore prone to movement. A man af your calibre will have no doubt eliminated this possibility already, but it was a good opportunity to say hello.

Nice to know somebody else is still riding; I thought I was the only one.
r

Ps Does this make me eligible for member of the month?

02-02-2006, 01:02 PM

I had the same prob, Elmo fixed it, it was summit to do with turning off the big red button.

02-02-2006, 09:08 AM	#2
steviej Guest Posts: n/a	Fishnets...................... ...............I take it everything is nice and tight??

02-02-2006, 12:57 PM	#13
A Yerbury Guest Posts: n/a	wired. mecahanic seems to think it's a connection around the solenoid? (he has not seen it, this was using PSI and the telephone) I will have a poke about later -with a haynes manual, as I always forget which bit is the regulator/rectifier/solenoid...not too bad considering that I do know what the battery, coils and alternator look like. thanks for your thoughts though. A. Last edited by A Yerbury; 02-02-2006 at 01:02 PM..

02-02-2006, 01:02 PM	#15
Banshee Guest Posts: n/a	oh I had the same prob, Elmo fixed it, it was summit to do with turning off the big red button.

02-02-2006, 09:05 AM	#1
A Yerbury Guest Posts: n/a	non starter for 10 stopped of to buy a bottle of red last night, hopped on the bike after a succesful transaction and nothing, nada, zip bumped it fine then continued home...I weill look at that in the morning. this morning hit the button fine fiddled about with the choke as it was a bvit nippy last night and now nothing again. Battery fine fuses fine starter button taken ap[art and looks fine, I suspect it is a dodgy connectioin but if anyone has any less fiddly solutions then please be my guest? thanks. Alex. ps.feel free to hijack!

02-02-2006, 09:49 AM	#3
Pugi Guest Posts: n/a	If nothing happened it has to be a faulty electrical connection. Did the starter turn at all?

02-02-2006, 10:20 AM	#7
Scotty Guest Posts: n/a	im trying to refrain from saying anything too stupid (difficult for me, dont ya know) try tracing the fault wit a magnet

02-02-2006, 10:22 AM	#8
Gilps Guest Posts: n/a	My lad just had a similar thing with his Virago 125. The problem was intermittent at the beginning and slowly worsened until he got no starter at all. turned out to be the relay for the starter motor. Maybe you'll think twice about stopping just for ketchup next time.

02-02-2006, 10:54 AM	#10
stef Guest Posts: n/a	can you short the relay ? that will tell u if your relay has gone. i wouldnt recommend using a chewing gun wrapper.

02-02-2006, 11:02 AM	#11
stuartg Guest Posts: n/a	Alex, I had a similar problem that started as an intermittent fault and deteriorated until finally nothin.....dead as the proverbial dodo. Turned out to be the voltage regulator/ rectifier thingy. This has been modified now from Ducati and is Japanese, some modification needs to be done to the loom but pretty straight forward really. But expensive of course, alternatively try these people http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/erol.html#1x0&& Be lucky S

02-02-2006, 01:02 PM	#14
Runningman Guest Posts: n/a	Alex I had a very similar problem recently; hit the starter...diddly squat. Turned out to be the two pin plug on the starter relay, which is not secured by any retaining clip and is therefore prone to movement. A man af your calibre will have no doubt eliminated this possibility already, but it was a good opportunity to say hello. Nice to know somebody else is still riding; I thought I was the only one. r Ps Does this make me eligible for member of the month?