Handle bar Riser Advice

MattyJ · 29-01-2021, 04:28 PM

Right so seeing my Monster ended up with a friend of mine getting one too.....he is rather vertically challenged so for long rides needs the bars ideally closer to him and slightly higher as he is really stretched over the tank.

I was very happy to tell I don’t have this probably and promptly laughing.....but I would like to avoid his moaning on the inevitable long summer ride outs.

I can see the rizoma options but seams that needs new bars and also I am not sure if it bring the bars closer to him?

It’s 2018 821 if that helps

Cheers in advance for some pointers!!

slob · 29-01-2021, 04:48 PM

You may find you need longer clutch/front brake/throttle cables* if the bars move much

* or whatever you call it with ride by wire

slob · 30-01-2021, 01:24 PM

something like this
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-8-Motor...-/164448117997
or angled
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22mm-Hand...-/174594515850

MattyJ · 30-01-2021, 02:43 PM

Cheers Slob, they where my first thought until I noticed the the front and rear of the clamps are not level(Significant step condition)!!! making universal ones like this a no go. And I agree on cable lengths, I said to him 50mm max, nothing seams to tight at all at full lock so a bit of wiggle room there

slob · 30-01-2021, 03:46 PM

There has to be a 'step', either in the riser or the cap. The taller side makes contact first and is tightened up, leaving a gap on the shorter side, it's tightening onto this gap that clamps the bar securely.
There are other solutions like (not necessarily this particular one) https://www.bikermart.co.uk/SW-Motec...ndlebar-Risers but they get progressively more ugly.
From an aesthetic point of view, I'd find some rearset footrests that tip the whole of your mate forwards, towards the bars but that's probably going to be even more expensive than Rizoma risers and 28mm bars.

... maybe you could hang him by the ankles overnight with weights on his wrists to stretch him a bit ;-)

EDIT: back on a serious note, message https://moto-cnc.com/ducati-bar-risers and ask if they make one for M821 (no idea if they're the same spacing as 696 etc & not listed at the moment) If he's lucky your mate might negotiate a discount for letting them use his bike to measure up for a new product.

Mr Gazza · 30-01-2021, 04:04 PM

I've got an unused set like this (if not identical).
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Handlebar...oAAMXQJRhRZlS4
I can measure and or photograph for you to establish suitability if you like?

If they are any good to you, I'll post them for a tenner all in.

walkingpictures · 30-01-2021, 04:41 PM

Funnily enough I was just thinking about starting a similar thread but for a different Monster.I have a S4RS and was going to ask what were the highest risers that could be fitted without extending cables etc etc.
After a look around this forum I think the answer was about 30mm but I'm sure someone can offer more advice.

Kimbo

Chriswilly · 31-01-2021, 11:50 AM

There was a riser fitted to Norah when purchased- 45mm height - so I just fitted a pair of std Superbike bars - very comfortable.

I'm a 'Short House'- 5 feet 7 inches (and that's only my height)

ps. About to have an inch or three taken out of my seat!

350TSS · 31-01-2021, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chriswilly

There was a riser fitted to Norah when purchased- 45mm height - so I just fitted a pair of std Superbike bars - very comfortable.

I'm a 'Short House'- 5 feet 7 inches (and that's only my height)

ps. About to have an inch or three taken out of my seat!

It will ride like a chopper with raised handlebars and lowered seat?

Darren69 · 31-01-2021, 02:04 PM

Lowering the seat will make the reach to the bars even longer, and the footpegs will effectively be higher too by the amount the seat is lowered, so it will be more cramped for your legs.

I wouldn't have thought it necessary to lower the seat if you're 5.7 as you should be able to reach the floor quite easily? They are quite a low bike to start with.

slob · 31-01-2021, 02:47 PM

bear in mind the OP refers to an 821, which is physically bigger than the Mk 1 models

Chriswilly · 31-01-2021, 04:48 PM

Just having a small 'trim' at the sides of the seat to round it off at the top slightly - had the it fully
rec-covered a while ago.

MattyJ · 31-01-2021, 04:55 PM

Cheers for the offer Mr Gaza’s but they won’t fit the 821.

Seems the Rizoma or something ugly are his options. He is short and stocky and standard seat with blocks out he can only just get both balls of his feet down, and with full kit on it doesn’t look too comfy for him!

I will also point him to Moto CNC as a tidy machine part that slots under the current clamp would be ideal.

Darkness · 31-01-2021, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingpictures

Funnily enough I was just thinking about starting a similar thread but for a different Monster.I have a S4RS and was going to ask what were the highest risers that could be fitted without extending cables etc etc.
After a look around this forum I think the answer was about 30mm but I'm sure someone can offer more advice.

Kimbo

For the S4RS, compare with the Monster City model hi-bars. You can still get those, but you’ll need a fat bar equivalent unless you change the clamps too.

Mr Gazza · 31-01-2021, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattyJ

Cheers for the offer Mr Gaza’s but they won’t fit the 821.

No worries. I have no idea what 821 handlebar clamps look like.

To be honest I would say he could do an awful lot worse than chopping the 821 in for an earlier model!' I know that sounds a bit drastic but the 821 clearly doesn't suit him, where as part of the popularity of the earlier Monsters (Mk1 series) was that they were very friendly to those shorter in the leg. Not only do the Hoop or Rod type suspension models start off with a low seat height, but they are relatively easy to make even lower with no ill affect to the handling or road holding.
He should be able to pick up almost anything from 1993 to say 2005 and have cash to spare from the 821 sale. there's a wealth of engine sizes to chose from in that era and no shortage of horses in the larger ones... The World is his marine crustacean..

29-01-2021, 04:28 PM	#1
MattyJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Staffordshire Bike: M821 Posts: 18	Handle bar Riser Advice Right so seeing my Monster ended up with a friend of mine getting one too.....he is rather vertically challenged so for long rides needs the bars ideally closer to him and slightly higher as he is really stretched over the tank. I was very happy to tell I don’t have this probably and promptly laughing.....but I would like to avoid his moaning on the inevitable long summer ride outs. I can see the rizoma options but seams that needs new bars and also I am not sure if it bring the bars closer to him? It’s 2018 821 if that helps Cheers in advance for some pointers!!

30-01-2021, 03:46 PM	#5
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,714	There has to be a 'step', either in the riser or the cap. The taller side makes contact first and is tightened up, leaving a gap on the shorter side, it's tightening onto this gap that clamps the bar securely. There are other solutions like (not necessarily this particular one) https://www.bikermart.co.uk/SW-Motec...ndlebar-Risers but they get progressively more ugly. From an aesthetic point of view, I'd find some rearset footrests that tip the whole of your mate forwards, towards the bars but that's probably going to be even more expensive than Rizoma risers and 28mm bars. ... maybe you could hang him by the ankles overnight with weights on his wrists to stretch him a bit ;-) EDIT: back on a serious note, message https://moto-cnc.com/ducati-bar-risers and ask if they make one for M821 (no idea if they're the same spacing as 696 etc & not listed at the moment) If he's lucky your mate might negotiate a discount for letting them use his bike to measure up for a new product. Last edited by slob; 30-01-2021 at 04:03 PM.. Reason: more info

30-01-2021, 04:04 PM	#6
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,846	I've got an unused set like this (if not identical). https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Handlebar...oAAMXQJRhRZlS4 I can measure and or photograph for you to establish suitability if you like? If they are any good to you, I'll post them for a tenner all in. __________________

31-01-2021, 02:04 PM	#10
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,029	Lowering the seat will make the reach to the bars even longer, and the footpegs will effectively be higher too by the amount the seat is lowered, so it will be more cramped for your legs. I wouldn't have thought it necessary to lower the seat if you're 5.7 as you should be able to reach the floor quite easily? They are quite a low bike to start with. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

29-01-2021, 04:48 PM	#2
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,714	You may find you need longer clutch/front brake/throttle cables* if the bars move much * or whatever you call it with ride by wire

30-01-2021, 01:24 PM	#3
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,714	something like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-8-Motor...-/164448117997 or angled https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22mm-Hand...-/174594515850

30-01-2021, 02:43 PM	#4
MattyJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Staffordshire Bike: M821 Posts: 18	Cheers Slob, they where my first thought until I noticed the the front and rear of the clamps are not level(Significant step condition)!!! making universal ones like this a no go. And I agree on cable lengths, I said to him 50mm max, nothing seams to tight at all at full lock so a bit of wiggle room there

30-01-2021, 04:41 PM	#7
walkingpictures preneolithic frebie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cambridge Bike: S4Rs Posts: 320	Funnily enough I was just thinking about starting a similar thread but for a different Monster.I have a S4RS and was going to ask what were the highest risers that could be fitted without extending cables etc etc. After a look around this forum I think the answer was about 30mm but I'm sure someone can offer more advice. Kimbo

31-01-2021, 11:50 AM	#8
Chriswilly Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: gloucester Bike: M900ie Posts: 133	There was a riser fitted to Norah when purchased- 45mm height - so I just fitted a pair of std Superbike bars - very comfortable. I'm a 'Short House'- 5 feet 7 inches (and that's only my height) ps. About to have an inch or three taken out of my seat!

31-01-2021, 02:47 PM	#11
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,714	bear in mind the OP refers to an 821, which is physically bigger than the Mk 1 models

31-01-2021, 04:48 PM	#12
Chriswilly Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: gloucester Bike: M900ie Posts: 133	Just having a small 'trim' at the sides of the seat to round it off at the top slightly - had the it fully rec-covered a while ago.

31-01-2021, 04:55 PM	#13
MattyJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Staffordshire Bike: M821 Posts: 18	Cheers for the offer Mr Gaza’s but they won’t fit the 821. Seems the Rizoma or something ugly are his options. He is short and stocky and standard seat with blocks out he can only just get both balls of his feet down, and with full kit on it doesn’t look too comfy for him! I will also point him to Moto CNC as a tidy machine part that slots under the current clamp would be ideal.