Which Belly Pan

03-02-2013, 12:33 PM

Thinking of putting a belly pan on the M750 Dark my better half (so she says) has to help protect the underside of the motor and just to finish the lower half of the bike, Monsters should have them IMO. So which one is best any why, I'll be painting it matte black so I'm not interested in carbon?

manwithredbike · 03-02-2013, 12:46 PM

these are good. i've one, like your plans, painted matt black. tidy.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3102260743...84.m1438.l2649

03-02-2013, 12:48 PM

Just looking at those, I'm guessing they just use the motor case bolts to mount them?

Stafford · 03-02-2013, 12:55 PM

I might have one of those in satin black that's surplus to requirements.

03-02-2013, 12:56 PM

Sounds interesting, PM me if you're interested in selling it...

utopia · 03-02-2013, 01:17 PM

My bike came with a large bellypan, which had been fitted from new.
It did keep a lot of muck off the engine, but it encased the exhaust header too, so the heat couldn't escape when the bike was stationary, at traffic lights etc.
On a hot summer day in particular, I could feel great waves of heat rising off the engine.
So I replaced it with a shorter, monza style bellypan which leaves the exhaust exposed, and it seems much better now.
I think that JMo has recently had a similar experience on her bike.
The monza pan doesn't offer quite as much protection, but its not a lot less effective and is the better option in my opinion.
I fitted mine on homemade fittings such that the front of the pan was a little higher than normal, which looks like it gives a little more protection than it would in the conventional position, though it does slightly temper its aggressive looks.

ps.....like the yellow one in the link above.
The std fittings are little extension pieces which link to the engine case bolts, and are probably the simplest way to fit the bellypan.
Mine are more complex, but once fitted are much simpler when you need to remove the pan for maintenance etc.

03-02-2013, 01:20 PM

That was a concern of mine esp with an air cooled bike, to be honest I may only keep it on for three seasons out of the four as I see it as a way of keeping muck off the motor.

gary tompkins · 03-02-2013, 09:14 PM

The best way to keep muck off the motor is to fit a mudguard extender.. or don't use it in the rain

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUZUKI-GSX...7607%26ps%3D54

Belly pan won't do a great job - especially the short ones

04-02-2013, 05:31 AM

Vot one of those fitted but the motor is still getting quite dirty, the belly pan will be a belt and braces attempt at keeping the muck off

04-02-2013, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluestoesonnose

Just looking at those, I'm guessing they just use the motor case bolts to mount them?

I purchased the one in the links in other posts but the fittings do not line up with the M750. It was easy to sort out with long 12mm studding suitqable tube for spacers and dome headed nuts but you will need to drill the belly pan.

I use it in conjuction with a fender extender and it certainly keeps the muck off the engine.
I also think that it may even help with 'top end' engine cooling as it directs the airflow.

04-02-2013, 11:38 AM

Hi Geoff, many thanks for this, could you please post photo of your belly pan mounted to the M750?

04-02-2013, 03:10 PM

Here goes...

04-02-2013, 04:32 PM

Cheers Geoff,
Looks easy enough to over come (though I may be making a few fittings and or brackets). I guess it's my ignorance but I thought the 600 and 750 shared the same cases.

Cheers

Cousin it · 04-02-2013, 04:43 PM

Hi
When I fitted my Monza belly pan to my monster I found these brackets that are the same as the ones supplied by Ducati for that belly pan.

utopia · 04-02-2013, 05:58 PM

Those are the std fittings that I was refering to....and cheap enough, even without the current 10% off.
Also, its probably a small point, but I would think that the pre-formed mounting areas on the pan would be a little more rigid and might therefore be less likely to crack than holes drilled in the flat areas of the laminate.
All things considered, £15 for the std type brackets does seem like the way to go.
Though the front of the pan does then hang quite low and it perhaps scoops as much muck as it repels.
Geoff's fitting looks to be slightly better in that respect.
Mine is even higher at the front, and also uses the preformed mounting areas on the pan ....mine came pre-drilled anyway. Mind you, it did involve making some complicated billet mounts, including one which even has an eccentric adjustment and a weird, compound taper. I also had to cut the rear away a little, as it then hung a little too low. It works great, but is a little o.c.d.

Dunno lots about model differences, but there is an earlier general type, with single phase alternator and different clutch slave system on the other side. Geoff's looks like one of these.
After around 1998 (?) there was a change to 3-phase alternator and external cluch slave on the right hand side.
I'm guessing that the same pans fit both types, and all engine sizes too, at least for the 2-valve motors. That's just my assumption though.

03-02-2013, 12:33 PM	#1
bluestoesonnose Guest Posts: n/a	Which Belly Pan Thinking of putting a belly pan on the M750 Dark my better half (so she says) has to help protect the underside of the motor and just to finish the lower half of the bike, Monsters should have them IMO. So which one is best any why, I'll be painting it matte black so I'm not interested in carbon?

03-02-2013, 12:46 PM	#2
manwithredbike aka Phil Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: derry Bike: M900 Posts: 376	these are good. i've one, like your plans, painted matt black. tidy. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3102260743...84.m1438.l2649 __________________ .. ~

03-02-2013, 12:55 PM	#4
Stafford P3, nice. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calne Bike: S2r 1000 Posts: 2,145	I might have one of those in satin black that's surplus to requirements. __________________ celeres-racing.blogspot.co.uk/ The probability of survival is equal to the angle of arrival.

03-02-2013, 01:17 PM	#6
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,546	My bike came with a large bellypan, which had been fitted from new. It did keep a lot of muck off the engine, but it encased the exhaust header too, so the heat couldn't escape when the bike was stationary, at traffic lights etc. On a hot summer day in particular, I could feel great waves of heat rising off the engine. So I replaced it with a shorter, monza style bellypan which leaves the exhaust exposed, and it seems much better now. I think that JMo has recently had a similar experience on her bike. The monza pan doesn't offer quite as much protection, but its not a lot less effective and is the better option in my opinion. I fitted mine on homemade fittings such that the front of the pan was a little higher than normal, which looks like it gives a little more protection than it would in the conventional position, though it does slightly temper its aggressive looks. ps.....like the yellow one in the link above. The std fittings are little extension pieces which link to the engine case bolts, and are probably the simplest way to fit the bellypan. Mine are more complex, but once fitted are much simpler when you need to remove the pan for maintenance etc. Last edited by utopia; 03-02-2013 at 01:23 PM.. Reason: addition.

03-02-2013, 09:14 PM	#8
gary tompkins 1/2 man - 1/2 pogo-stick Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dartford, Kent Bike: M900ie Posts: 7,241	The best way to keep muck off the motor is to fit a mudguard extender.. or don't use it in the rain http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUZUKI-GSX...7607%26ps%3D54 Belly pan won't do a great job - especially the short ones __________________ GT Fully paid up member of the S.A.S. (Scottoiler Appreciation Society) 27,000 miles on original chain - and still going strong!

03-02-2013, 12:48 PM	#3
bluestoesonnose Guest Posts: n/a	Just looking at those, I'm guessing they just use the motor case bolts to mount them?

03-02-2013, 12:56 PM	#5
bluestoesonnose Guest Posts: n/a	Sounds interesting, PM me if you're interested in selling it...

03-02-2013, 01:20 PM	#7
bluestoesonnose Guest Posts: n/a	That was a concern of mine esp with an air cooled bike, to be honest I may only keep it on for three seasons out of the four as I see it as a way of keeping muck off the motor.

04-02-2013, 05:31 AM	#9
bluestoesonnose Guest Posts: n/a	Vot one of those fitted but the motor is still getting quite dirty, the belly pan will be a belt and braces attempt at keeping the muck off

04-02-2013, 11:38 AM	#11
bluestoesonnose Guest Posts: n/a	Hi Geoff, many thanks for this, could you please post photo of your belly pan mounted to the M750?

04-02-2013, 04:32 PM	#13
bluestoesonnose Guest Posts: n/a	Cheers Geoff, Looks easy enough to over come (though I may be making a few fittings and or brackets). I guess it's my ignorance but I thought the 600 and 750 shared the same cases. Cheers

04-02-2013, 04:43 PM	#14
Cousin it Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: plymouth Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 62	Hi When I fitted my Monza belly pan to my monster I found these brackets that are the same as the ones supplied by Ducati for that belly pan. __________________ 04 S4R 15 821

04-02-2013, 05:58 PM	#15
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,546	Those are the std fittings that I was refering to....and cheap enough, even without the current 10% off. Also, its probably a small point, but I would think that the pre-formed mounting areas on the pan would be a little more rigid and might therefore be less likely to crack than holes drilled in the flat areas of the laminate. All things considered, £15 for the std type brackets does seem like the way to go. Though the front of the pan does then hang quite low and it perhaps scoops as much muck as it repels. Geoff's fitting looks to be slightly better in that respect. Mine is even higher at the front, and also uses the preformed mounting areas on the pan ....mine came pre-drilled anyway. Mind you, it did involve making some complicated billet mounts, including one which even has an eccentric adjustment and a weird, compound taper. I also had to cut the rear away a little, as it then hung a little too low. It works great, but is a little o.c.d. Dunno lots about model differences, but there is an earlier general type, with single phase alternator and different clutch slave system on the other side. Geoff's looks like one of these. After around 1998 (?) there was a change to 3-phase alternator and external cluch slave on the right hand side. I'm guessing that the same pans fit both types, and all engine sizes too, at least for the 2-valve motors. That's just my assumption though.