weird problem with my 600...

Tonio600 · 15-07-2006, 02:55 PM

I really thought I could do a test drive with my road bike today (it has been SORN for 2 years...). Everything has been serviced, 1 week ago the bike still started and ran quite well. But since a few days (I can't remember when the problem occured for the first time...) when I turn the key in the ignition lock, the warning lights (neutral, stand and oil pressure) hardly turn on. I can see some electricity is going through them as they shine slightly but there is clearly something wrong. Of course the bike no longer starts and no head lights or anything electric works. The weird thing is that if I change the kill switch to the "kill" position, all warning lights become on but there is still not enough power to turn the head light on by example.

Obviously I tried another battery, it seems the problem comes from something else as the 2 batteries I have work very well when fitted on the race bike...

Any ideas?

slob · 15-07-2006, 03:04 PM

Check all fuses. Bad earth connection on battery?

Tonio600 · 15-07-2006, 03:58 PM

Hi Rob,

fuses ok, will check all earth straps and let you know.

Cheers
Tonio.

15-07-2006, 04:33 PM

i had similar problem with a jap thing a while ago it was a corroded connector behind the head light took hours to find it though

mick · 15-07-2006, 04:43 PM

Check the wiring loom where it runs around the headstock. Sounds like the loom has chaffed and worn through.....maybe ?

Mike

gary tompkins · 15-07-2006, 08:09 PM

Try swapping out the main ignition relay

Tonio600 · 16-07-2006, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary tompkins

Try swapping out the main ignition relay

Well done Gary, that was the problem

The main ignition relay is dead, must be a result of me trying to fit an alarm to the bike (blowing about 4 fuses...).

Thanks very much for your help guys. And if anyone has a cheap ignition relay they could sell me before I search on Ebay, just PM me.

Tonio.

gary tompkins · 16-07-2006, 03:33 PM

If its one of the small relays located under the tank - I think they only cost around a fiver from a dealer brand new?

18-07-2006, 01:06 PM

Or take it to your local vauxhall dealer they are the same I have a Vectra fog lamp relay in mine been fine for 1000's miles.

30-08-2006, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bod

Or take it to your local vauxhall dealer they are the same I have a Vectra fog lamp relay in mine been fine for 1000's miles.

U wouldnt know which year vectra that would be would u???

30-08-2006, 11:40 AM

If you do a search it's the same as a hella relay

Starter relay for Monster: Hella 4RA 003 510-131

30-08-2006, 03:13 PM

ty.............off to get a hella one then..got a cheap one from A! motorspares didnt work,that will teach me to buy rubbish

30-08-2006, 06:23 PM

The old shape one from 96-2001,or try any good motor factors or Lucas.

15-07-2006, 02:55 PM	#1
Tonio600 Monster mon amour Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dorking Bike: M900 Posts: 368	[sorted] weird problem with my 600... I really thought I could do a test drive with my road bike today (it has been SORN for 2 years...). Everything has been serviced, 1 week ago the bike still started and ran quite well. But since a few days (I can't remember when the problem occured for the first time...) when I turn the key in the ignition lock, the warning lights (neutral, stand and oil pressure) hardly turn on. I can see some electricity is going through them as they shine slightly but there is clearly something wrong. Of course the bike no longer starts and no head lights or anything electric works. The weird thing is that if I change the kill switch to the "kill" position, all warning lights become on but there is still not enough power to turn the head light on by example. Obviously I tried another battery, it seems the problem comes from something else as the 2 batteries I have work very well when fitted on the race bike... Any ideas? __________________ 96' M900 \| 98' ST2 \| 99' M600 DD #8 Last edited by Tonio600; 16-07-2006 at 10:16 AM..

15-07-2006, 03:58 PM	#3
Tonio600 Monster mon amour Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dorking Bike: M900 Posts: 368	Hi Rob, fuses ok, will check all earth straps and let you know. Cheers Tonio. __________________ 96' M900 \| 98' ST2 \| 99' M600 DD #8

15-07-2006, 08:09 PM	#6
gary tompkins 1/2 man - 1/2 pogo-stick Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dartford, Kent Bike: M900ie Posts: 7,241	Try swapping out the main ignition relay __________________ GT Fully paid up member of the S.A.S. (Scottoiler Appreciation Society) 27,000 miles on original chain - and still going strong!

16-07-2006, 03:33 PM	#8
gary tompkins 1/2 man - 1/2 pogo-stick Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dartford, Kent Bike: M900ie Posts: 7,241	If its one of the small relays located under the tank - I think they only cost around a fiver from a dealer brand new? __________________ GT Fully paid up member of the S.A.S. (Scottoiler Appreciation Society) 27,000 miles on original chain - and still going strong!

15-07-2006, 03:04 PM	#2
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,714	Check all fuses. Bad earth connection on battery?

15-07-2006, 04:33 PM	#4
Andy Brown Guest Posts: n/a	i had similar problem with a jap thing a while ago it was a corroded connector behind the head light took hours to find it though

15-07-2006, 04:43 PM	#5
mick Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: newport Bike: M900 Posts: 76	Check the wiring loom where it runs around the headstock. Sounds like the loom has chaffed and worn through.....maybe ? Mike

18-07-2006, 01:06 PM	#9
bod Guest Posts: n/a	Or take it to your local vauxhall dealer they are the same I have a Vectra fog lamp relay in mine been fine for 1000's miles.

30-08-2006, 11:40 AM	#11
katana Guest Posts: n/a	If you do a search it's the same as a hella relay Starter relay for Monster: Hella 4RA 003 510-131

30-08-2006, 03:13 PM	#12
sjr999r Guest Posts: n/a	ty.............off to get a hella one then..got a cheap one from A! motorspares didnt work,that will teach me to buy rubbish

30-08-2006, 06:23 PM	#13
bod Guest Posts: n/a	The old shape one from 96-2001,or try any good motor factors or Lucas.